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How we ended up with a generation of no-discipline, no-talent job seekers
The Washington Post's Capital Business ^ | February 2, 2014 | Marina Ein

Posted on 02/06/2014 8:02:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Helicopter parents, professors who aim to please, the dumbing down of standards in courses and decreasing curriculum requirements have succeeded in reducing our young workforce to a no-discipline, no-talent pool of job seekers. Harsh words for sure — but a generation out there is desperately in need of a reality check.

As a small-business employer, I have seen a disturbing downward talent drift in job candidates — most acutely in the past five years. When a job candidate’s first question is about vacation days or benefits, we know we have encountered collateral damage from the teachers and parents who believed in “softening the learning experience.” Armed with a meaningless bachelor’s degree from colleges and universities that allowed majors in non-core subjects, we see youngsters who cannot write, research or think analytically. Their lack of discipline is evident in job applications filled with typos and cover letters that reveal no interest in teamwork or service — rather, they emphasize their high opinion of themselves. (Many young job seekers come forward with an executive attitude that is backed by zero capabilities).

To heap insult on injury, this generation is unable to face criticism or negative evaluations. Having been shielded from the hardships of tough educational standards, they require praise and positivity — no matter how superficial their work and dedication may be. Recently, George Washington University Medical School offered faculty the opportunity to attend a lecture on how to work with millenials. It has come to this: They cannot perform, so it falls to employers to figure out how best to save their careers.

As someone who has worked with countless extraordinarily hard-working and skilled young people over the years, the dearth of college graduates with any ability is fear-inducing....

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1 posted on 02/06/2014 8:02:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Commie Core Curriculum will dumb it down a lot more.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 8:04:33 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I ran a small convenience store for 3 years, it was my consistent experience that when there was even a small challenge that might require going above and beyond the call of duty, millennials would choose to walk rather than put up with any discomfort.

I eventually quit myself, because you can only run a 24 hour business by yourself for only so long.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 8:07:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

Low value work attracts low value employees. I’m sorry you couldn’t figure out how to make a profit.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 8:13:04 PM PST by DManA
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To: Jonty30

A couple of years ago I began to notice these young workers who always had a super sized cup of soda next to them while they worked. Even the hostess of a restaurant might have one or the girl behind the counter at the dry cleaners. A few weeks ago, at the bank, I saw every teller with a large cup of soda on the counter next to her. Can’t these kids go two or three hours without drinking something?


5 posted on 02/06/2014 8:14:12 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jonty30

i know about this instead of being a foreman in a cabinet shop im just a janitor in a daycare


6 posted on 02/06/2014 8:14:12 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YMMV, I guess...I have a millennial employee who is an excellent worker.


7 posted on 02/06/2014 8:14:39 PM PST by oblomov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the old days, kids learned workplace skills at an early age in such roles as:

1. Theater ticket takers
2. McDonald’s, Burger King, Taco Bell
3. Roofing, asphalt, farming, delivering papers

ALL of the above are now dominated by illegal aliens, and it’s getting worse.

This means many have an entitlement mentality and don’t learn to behave and communicate well until later, if at all.

There is culture rot, sure, but another important part of this is an UNRESTRICTED INVASION BY ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Whom would you prefer to employ, a pimply immature brat or a more mature illegal desperate to earn ANYTHING and also scared to cause any trouble, owing to their questionable status.

The kids are rotten, sure, but the omnipresence of de-facto slaves is something the Chamber of Commerce might well PREFER AND ENJOY.

A real cost of illegal immigration is our young people are NOT getting exposed to early work experiences.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 8:15:43 PM PST by gaijin
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To: ladyjane

ive seen this too

reference post 6


9 posted on 02/06/2014 8:16:17 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know many fine young hard working folks in their mid to late twenties. The majority of them are people I would be proud to work with. I remember back in my day the ‘older generation’ complained bitterly about us. I know that there are some out there not worth their salt but that is not the majority.

Asking about pay and benefits is not unheard of for any age group. I made the mistake when I was young and foolish of not nailing down those particulars and lived to regret it.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 8:17:25 PM PST by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Affirmative Action.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 8:18:10 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Idjits have always asked questions about vacation policy in the first five minutes of a job interview....


12 posted on 02/06/2014 8:18:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a friend in the Marine Corps who tells me its now common for drill instructors to receive anxious and instructional calls from recruits’ mothers.

I wish I knew some present D.I.’s who could confirm or deny that for me....


13 posted on 02/06/2014 8:20:04 PM PST by PGR88
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To: DManA

Convenience stores are a low productivity business. You cannot pay well, because such businesses cannot generate the level of profits that other businesses can.

It’s a good place to get your feet wet in the working world and I was willing to do what I can to help them gain real working skills so they could go get better jobs. Unfortunately they couldn’t see any value beyond what was written on their paycheque.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 8:20:11 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: gaijin
You said...A real cost of illegal immigration is our young people are NOT getting exposed to early work experiences.

Ain't that the truth....used to be kids picked berries, beans and other crops during the summer...no can do much anymore...or they mowed lawns....oops, too dangerous, or people are afraid because they aren't paying the FICA, etc to the little wage earner. Government is the problem!

15 posted on 02/06/2014 8:20:52 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But man, are they brimming with self confidence and entitlement ....


16 posted on 02/06/2014 8:22:26 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Jonty30
Can’t these kids go two or three hours without drinking something?

ive seen the price of soda in convenience stores profits should be through the roof

17 posted on 02/06/2014 8:23:01 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Cowboy Bob

affirmative inaction


18 posted on 02/06/2014 8:23:30 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Kozak

Brimming with self-confidence has been a common trait in young people since time began. As for entitlement, it depends on the person. Many are, plenty aren’t.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 8:24:16 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: PGR88

When you do receive confirmation will you please let me know?

I have long held that when the USMC is fully compromised this nation is fully screwed.

I saw this as someone who was not a member of the USMC.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 8:25:52 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: Jonty30

I suppose it is a good place to inculcate the ethic that the essence of business it to serve people. But it doesn’t give them any skills to serve people with value to make middle class income.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 8:28:01 PM PST by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Parents allowed it.
There were also PROBABLY too many working mothers and children were left at home with baby-sitter.
There were also probably too many single mothers: recipe for failure when "dad" is NOWHERE to be found; it cheats the children ROYALLY.
Parents HAD to have the STUFF.

They brought it all on themselves and, unfortunately on their children. Woe to them! My, I sound Biblical!

22 posted on 02/06/2014 8:28:04 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...a generation out there is desperately in need of a reality check.

I have a feeling it's a comin.'

23 posted on 02/06/2014 8:28:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This comes from children being brought up with their HAND OUT, feeling ENTITLED.


24 posted on 02/06/2014 8:29:00 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: ladyjane

“Can’t these kids go two or three hours without drinking something?”

It’s not the liquid. It’s the sugar. They’re addicted to it. And everyone of then will have Type 2 Diabetes by age 40. By 50 they’ll all have heart disease and probably NASH.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 8:30:12 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: goodnesswins

And here is another —where I live in the USA we have MANY Asian food restaurants. Not always but often a feature in the restaurant is the presence of the young kids of the workers or owners:

Quite often the kids perform tiny task in the eatery —returning change to a customer, or bringing silverware.

It seems not so much labor as TEACHING —the working parents are teaching their charges about a WORKING ROLE, and something about commerce. They’re teaching about the role between action and consequence, solicitation and payment, very key lessons in life.

And you know what? Almost all customers see this and warmly APPROVE.

Hey, why is it that it’s always HONKY KIDS that get the cops called on their cute Lemonade stand..?

It’s like there’s this huge double-standard —budding non-white tiny entrepreneur is endearing and welcome, but if the uppity tyke is pigment challenged, well then the squad cards, clip-boards and hard questions start buzzing around nattering on about licences and regulations, giving them the passive-aggressive Nurse Wratchet treatment:

— >STOP BUSTING LEMONADE STANDS. <—

The kids are rotten, yup, but you know what?

The system they’re thrown into right now is really rotten, also.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 8:32:06 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
A real cost of illegal immigration is our young people are NOT getting exposed to early work experiences.

If there were no employers HIRING them, they wouldn't be here. The illegals only come where they KNOW they can find work. Very simple:

no work for illegals here = no illegals working here.

27 posted on 02/06/2014 8:34:00 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My 17 year old son goes to school all day then busts his backside working as a dishwasher most nights. He wants to work to pay for gas for his car and save money. And, oh yeah, he’s a honor roll student, top 10% of his class.

Most of his friends are of the same ilk. It’s not all doom and gloom out there with regards to young people.

Of course the government will take most of their hard-earned money...but that’s another subject.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 8:37:00 PM PST by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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As a small-business employer, I have seen a disturbing downward talent drift in job candidates — most acutely in the past five years.

This is funny; it correlates roughly with the huge economic downturn and, if reports are to be believed, many people being "lucky enough to have a job" — in fact, given human nature, I would find it surprising if companies didn't take advantage of this say by pressuring/demanding unpaid overtime (or mandatory overtime).

A lot of people whine about young-people being "untrainable" — but how many have actually tried training them? (And I mean more along the line of mentoring/hands-on-teaching, not hey kid, watch this video.)

I'd actually argue that in my industry [computer science] there is a distinct anti-training mentality. Heck, when entry-level positions require 2-5 years of experience on the exact systems being used, there's something wrong. {A few have claimed that the reason is so companies can claim there are no qualified hires and import H1B visa workers, which tend to be more exploitable [in addition to driving down the average wages] as an explanation for this in STEM jobs.} — I call it the cookie-cutter candidate problem, where they want someone who is already a "perfect fit" as if they've already been there years.

29 posted on 02/06/2014 8:39:10 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I don't blame the colleges. Colleges are businesses which generate revenue by getting living bodies into the classroom. The majority of high school graduates are too stupid to learn, so colleges invent bogus classes and degrees that a monkey could pass.

I blame the parents. They've been indoctrinated with the idea that their children are little gods. Their (the parent's) task is to make their little darlings feel special. Spoiled. Entitled.

Back when America was great, children were brought up to feel ordinary. They had responsibility. They had chores. They had to perform, especially in school.

Now children are brought up to feel special. And when a person feels he's "special", he expects "special" treatment.

30 posted on 02/06/2014 8:39:41 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad the Brokebackridge guy got the zot, he would be all over this............


31 posted on 02/06/2014 8:40:10 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: catnipman
It’s not the liquid. It’s the sugar. They’re addicted to it. And everyone of then will have Type 2 Diabetes by age 40. By 50 they’ll all have heart disease and probably NASH. NASH: Non alcoholic fatty liver disease.Learn something new every day.

Lower sugar intake and EXERCISE would prevent SO many health problems. We all want to live long lives that have QUALITY and a minimum of health problems. Sure, a lot is genetic but we can sure eat BETTER and MOVE MORE [more than the wrist in changing channels.:o)]

32 posted on 02/06/2014 8:40:45 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Kozak



33 posted on 02/06/2014 8:43:43 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: mplsconservative
Nope, your son is no good. All the old farts (who would no doubt label their own teen/20-somethin selves degenerate losers were they ever to meet them) have decreed it thus.

;)

34 posted on 02/06/2014 8:45:22 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: gaijin

Another part of the problem is the replacement of the father in the home with a government check.

Like carrot and stick, the mother is the loving indulgent role, and the father tends to be the one who finally steps in and imposes discipline, if it’s needed:

That is exactly how the workplace is —a place that requires discipline, not indulgence. And very many kids aren’t getting a good dose of the fatherly discipline, although they are getting medicated pretty often, as the mass-shootings show.

Not only are all traditional “teen jobs” getting vacuumed up by illegal aliens, but also the kids are getting heavy exposure to crypto-collectivist REGULATIONS and procedure.

Regulations, i.e., the things you cannot do, are not really the go-gas of commerce, in fact, they are BRAKES on business.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WAR ON TEENS.

(which means a war on the learning of healthy work habits)


35 posted on 02/06/2014 8:45:57 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

LOL! Kids these days...and get off my lawn!


36 posted on 02/06/2014 8:48:41 PM PST by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a small-business employer, I have seen a disturbing downward talent drift in job candidates — most acutely in the past five years...it was about five years ago when I heard my brother-in-law, who teaches high school art, mumbling about how difficult it was to reach his students - I asked what the trouble was and he said kids today just don't care about anything - maybe when things come too easily, those who get them never learn to value them or what it takes to earn them....
37 posted on 02/06/2014 8:48:53 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: PGR88

What do they even SAY to recruits nowadays? All the four letter words, and the MF’er type variants seem to be normal speech today. How do you get their attention?? ;)


38 posted on 02/06/2014 8:49:45 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Public education, NEA, simple as that.


39 posted on 02/06/2014 8:52:37 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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Spawn of Hippies.


40 posted on 02/06/2014 8:53:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: PGR88
I have a friend in the Marine Corps who tells me its now common for drill instructors to receive anxious and instructional calls from recruits’ mothers.

I wish I knew some present D.I.’s who could confirm or deny that for me....

I would also like to hear some confirmation of that. I am sure the Corps has "evolved" a bit over the decades since I went through MCRD, but that is just beyond belief.

I did witness the ceasing of DI's being allowed to physically assault recruits during my time in MCRD. Had one genius hop the fence at Edson Range and try to hitch a ride north on I5 only to be picked up by a DI coming to work. Apparently he cried about how hard one DI was on him.

Said DI was a bit over the top, but we loved him (he was crazy with the stuff he had us do, but another story) was soon removed from the platoon.

We all checked it off to them deciding to take in draftees that soon wrote letters home whining how hard it all was and how unfair. We volunteers wanted no part of that crap, good thing there were no draftees in our platoon.

41 posted on 02/06/2014 8:55:03 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
my young dtr would come home from grade school with several mistakes on her quiz, but she said the teacher was happy with her because she had a general "feel" for the information...

iows....she schmoozzed her way thru that course...it wasn't black and white and yes or no...it was anything in between that was acceptable....

42 posted on 02/06/2014 8:55:08 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The millennials who read this are going to be pissed. It does not praise them enough. It’s not fair to comment on their lack of skill and integrity.

That said, we are foolish to lump and entire generation into this evaluation. Let the shoe fit. Keep looking for the best.


43 posted on 02/06/2014 8:55:09 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: gaijin

I agree except that the illegals are not de facto slaves. They do quite well working under the table, Momma’s got the full welfare ride and Jose works for cash. They take home more than me.


44 posted on 02/06/2014 8:59:32 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: mplsconservative
Of course the government will take most of their hard-earned money...but that’s another subject.

I think that's a big factor:
When you're not given any incentive to work, and indeed your effort is irrelevant to success, it tends to dampen your drive. That is certainly the case where we are, with respect to government: the bailouts, government choosing winners and losers, means that your actual work doesn't matter.

In fact, you could make a fairly strong case that male attributes are denigrated, that 'maleness' is almost defacto 'guilt' [of some sort] in our society. I mean, have you tried to rectify one contraconstitutional law locally (I have, multiple states) — the desire for logical consistency in the law makes you "seem unstable", or "a troublemaker", or "nuisance" who wants to rock the boat… it's also great that you're not allowed to challenge the law's legitimacy w/o violating it [and thus forcing you to the weak position of the accused].

45 posted on 02/06/2014 9:05:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: PGR88

Would not be surprised at all. My oldest son was giving interviews for a position in his technical firm. One interviewee, a Stanford grad, actually brought his parents. He was not hired.


46 posted on 02/06/2014 9:09:26 PM PST by 91B40
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To: All

I remember reading that one of the founders of paypal went to an exclusive private high school and a college in Vermont that only has an enrollment of 200, and all graduates become wealthy.
so I guess the plan is keep the masses stupid and that very small percentage our rulers.


47 posted on 02/06/2014 9:10:06 PM PST by willywill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could’ve written this entire article in one word: Feminism. Feminism empowered the devil to penetrate our government and all facets of our society.


48 posted on 02/06/2014 9:12:02 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ok, I think this article highlights a bigger national problem than the ones you cite.


49 posted on 02/06/2014 9:13:22 PM PST by staytrue
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To: cloudmountain

“NASH: Non alcoholic fatty liver disease.Learn something new every day. “

Indeed. NASH is essentially liver cirrhosis caused by over-consumption of fructose instead of over-consumption of ethanol. As it turns out, the metabolism of fructose by the liver is almost identical to the metabolism of ethanol.


50 posted on 02/06/2014 9:16:29 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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