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Retreat: Obama Admin May Extend Plans Canceled by Obamacare for 3 Years
Mediaite ^ | 2/5/2014 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 02/06/2014 9:16:59 PM PST by Nachum

This is either a glaring admission of defeat from the White House or… no, that’s really all it could be.

After weeks of defending the cancellation of health plans insurers discontinued in 2013 in order to comply with the Affordable Care Act’s coverage mandates, the White House announced in November of last year that it was urging insurers to reinstate those plans. The catch was, of course, that most insurers would be unable to turn on a dime and reinstate those plans. Furthermore, the administration allowed individual states leeway to determine whether or not they would even allow insurers to reinstate those cancelled plans.

President Barack Obama’s maneuver was more of a political solution than a policy fix, and a temporary one at that. But that appears to be changing.

“Avalere Health CEO Dan Mendelson said Thursday that the administration may let policyholders keep that coverage for an additional three years,” the AP reported on Thursday.

While Mendelson apparently stressed that “no decision has been made” and that this suggestion arose as the result of “informal discussions” with the administration, this is merely the latest float that should terrify insurers who are increasingly on the hook for the added costs associated with covering the sick and infirmed without being able to compensate for those losses with additional revenues from the healthy.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abolishobamacare; lawlessobamacare; obamacare; obamacareexemption; obamacarewaivers; retreat

1 posted on 02/06/2014 9:16:59 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 02/06/2014 9:17:44 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

” - - - the administration may let policyholders keep that coverage for an additional three years, - - - “

And thus illegally rewrite Federal Law, again.

Impeach Obama in 2014, Period.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 9:21:08 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Nachum

This is not a retreat. It is the aggressive action of a tyrannical dictator.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 9:22:48 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Nachum

Something that needs said:
BY WHAT LAW?


5 posted on 02/06/2014 9:23:27 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: P-Marlowe

In three years Obama will be out of office. I think that’s the idea. It becomes the next President’s problem then.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 9:26:47 PM PST by kabar
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To: Nachum

So this is what a Dictatorship is like?


7 posted on 02/06/2014 9:28:16 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Nachum

Obama has 7 million homes bulldozed and then when he finds out the people lost their homes he tells the demolition crews to leave them up.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 9:38:42 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Nachum

As a single payer, I want all the same breaks as those who have been given waivers by O’s executives orders.

In a nutshell, that will kill ZeroKare, as it should be.

But to not give me the same consideration as his special interests is a 14th Amendment violation (if I have my amendments correct) - separate but equal.


9 posted on 02/06/2014 9:46:16 PM PST by llevrok (F the government)
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To: Nachum

Wow!Obama creates law.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 9:46:52 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Nachum

I thought Obama cancelled my substandard plan out of compassion for me, seeing as how I was too stupid to realize how bad it was. Now he is considering allowing me to suffer three more years at the hands of my own stupidity again?


11 posted on 02/06/2014 10:31:14 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Proud2BeRight
"Obama has 7 million homes bulldozed and then when he finds out the people lost their homes he tells the demolition crews to leave them up."

This reminds me of the movie Vacation where the new-car salesman presents Clark Griswold a new car that is not what was promised while the dealer crushes the old Griswold family car meant as trade-in.
12 posted on 02/06/2014 10:31:59 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Nachum

The man is a jackass of the highest order.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 10:35:21 PM PST by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: Nachum

The only and I mean only reason this will be done is because these no good commies (Democrats) are afraid of losing The Senate and lots of other election due to popular revulsion over 0bammyKare.

The Obungu White House will do this due to pressure from Democrat candidates. They could give a crap about the America public except that they may not vote Democrap


14 posted on 02/06/2014 10:38:16 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ToastedHead

Apparently the old “you’re too stupid to realize how bad you had it” routine didn’t go over well. They got about two weeks out of it. I’m guessing “think how much better we’ve made your life by putting you out of work” isn’t going to be a biggie either.


15 posted on 02/06/2014 10:45:10 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Nachum

And the corporate lawyers will tell the insurance companies “Sure, go ahead and sell illegal policies. The Preezy of the United Steezy said it was OK. That’s solid, bro!”


16 posted on 02/06/2014 10:56:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Then he charges the homeowners to rebuild the houses and he moves his voters into them.


17 posted on 02/07/2014 2:13:34 AM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Nachum

This pos thinks he really is a f-ing king.
Worthless quota boy.


18 posted on 02/07/2014 2:18:40 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Nachum

Except that won’t work...insurers have already eliminated those plans.

This is like a farmer destroying his crops because the government is paying him not to bring it to market (yes, that happens!)...and then the government saying, “Well, you can go ahead and sell that wheat if ya want to, Mr. Jones.”

Now the Clown can claim he kept the programs “allowable” when the negotiations and contracts for all those plans had already expired.

Another Banana Republic move that, if we had an honest media, would be mocked.


19 posted on 02/07/2014 2:20:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: dennisw

That is exactly right. This is about keeping the Dem. majority in the Senate and assuring Hillary’s win in 2016. Yes, Obama will rewrite the law for purely political reasons and Boehner and McConnell will allow it to happen.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 2:29:00 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Nachum

Obama is LAW-LESS because Republican “leaders” are BALL -LESS!!!!


21 posted on 02/07/2014 3:34:48 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ToastedHead
"Now he is considering allowing me to suffer three
more years at the hands of my own stupidity again?"
eat your peas, peon/slave!..you have the temerity to
reveal the insanity of our actions? ..back to the pit w/ you!

22 posted on 02/07/2014 4:20:28 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: kabar

You are correct.


23 posted on 02/07/2014 4:35:55 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Nachum

They want to push this past the elections...


24 posted on 02/07/2014 5:14:36 AM PST by GOPJ (The Nation's divided between those who are to be fooled and those who do the fooling.Greenfield)
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To: Nachum

-—— the administration allowed individual states leeway -——

Actually, the President was powerless to go around the States to force the issue


25 posted on 02/07/2014 5:22:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: P-Marlowe

I would argue it is the panic of a condemned man viewing his gallows being erected outside his cell window


26 posted on 02/07/2014 5:33:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Nachum

And by whose authority, Sheila Jackson Lee?


27 posted on 02/07/2014 6:38:40 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Nachum

Luckily I got good advice and waited until the last minute.

My provider offered the 3 month extension, and I took it.

The rates remained the same for these three months, but even if somehow they decide to keep offering my existing plan for another 3 years how much will the premiums go up (or down haha yeah right) and when? When the 3 months are up? When this year is up? Does anyone at my insurance company have any idea how to handle this?

There’s going to have to be a radical change in my policy price. I know that a TON of people have exited my plan’s risk pool by either staying dropped out when the initial cancellations happened, going medicaid out of desperation or getting a plan through the obamacare exchange. Many, many people must have made other arrangements before that 11th hour deal gave us the 3 month extension.

How the heck is my insurance company even going to be able to figure out what I need to be paying with that much disruption to the base of people paying in my pool?

Sure, MAYBE the dictator prez can tell my insurance company to keep offering my plan but at what PRICE TAG and WHEN will I know?

I can’t keep doing this. The uncertainty is too much. A little one way or the other is the difference between my being able to buy insurance and not. And the bronze plan does me no good since the deductible is the same as having no insurance (unpayable).

My level of “fed up” is reaching the top of the scale. The gov doesn’t realize that I can’t keep playing the game and keep dealing with my life and job. It’s pointless to contine to stress and spend hour after hour looking for a solution that I can afford when it is perfectly clear that no available choice is doable. What is it that they expect an average working joe to do? There has to be an END to this process. If the end is that health insurance doesn’t exist anymore, the sooner we get there the sooner we can have the public debate about where to go from here.

If in the end I get forced to pay for a bronze plan that I can’t ever use, that’s just another tax I can’t afford. So instead of putting away the money I’m spending now for insurance as a personal health emergency fund I’ll have to give it to a bronze plan with deductibles I can’t pay... leaving me broke and unable to handle a medical emergency.

One thing is obvious. Right now “here” is “nowhere” for the individual payer like me.


28 posted on 02/08/2014 11:51:38 PM PST by Advil000
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