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Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up
Townhall.com ^ | 2/10/2014 | Marita Noon

Posted on 02/10/2014 6:01:15 AM PST by rktman

If you find oil or natural gas on your property, the value goes up. If you find an endangered species, your land becomes virtually worthless because the critter prevents productive use.

Most people would be excited to have a Jed-Clampet moment when, while hunting for dinner, the shot resulted in bubbling crude coming up from the ground. Like the Clampet family, your life would change dramatically. Your land would suddenly be worth more than you’d ever dreamed!

If, while hunting for dinner, you instead find an endangered species—the half-jest, half-serious advice would be “shoot, shovel and shut up.” Kent Holsinger, a Colorado attorney whose work centers around endangered species issues, told me that he has seen many landowners lose significant value due to a listed species being found on their property.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ecowackos; environazis
Being a good steward of the land doesn't mean denial of access to the land. Sadly, since the implementation of the esa, a lot of land owners found that "This land is your land" ain't necessarily so. That combined with the epa could pretty much ruin what you worked for. Recourse? You better have really, really deep pockets. Sad friggin' state of affairs. Ms. Noon maybe should have said "dig all night" instead of just "shovel". Also, don't tell ANYONE if you can avoid it. Maybe it was just "time" for that species to become extinct. ;>}
1 posted on 02/10/2014 6:01:16 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman
UN Agenda 21 at work to eliminate private property rights.
2 posted on 02/10/2014 6:04:05 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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Good clean cheesy joke;

A California forest ranger caught a man poaching in the forests of Northern California, and hauled him in, along with his illegal catch was a beautiful California condor. He was shown no mercy as he was handcuffed, thrown in jail, and left until his trial date. The judge was unmerciful, scowling and banging his gavel. The jury took no time to find him guilty, and the judge sentenced him to the most severe penalty allowed by law. After the sentencing, the judge motioned the guilty party close to his bench, out of earshot of the rest of the courtroom. He whispered in the convict’s ear, “By the way, I’ve always wondered what a California Condor tastes like”. The convict whispered back, “Well, Your Honor, it’s sort of a cross between a spotted owl and a baby seal”.


3 posted on 02/10/2014 6:09:27 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The un agenda 21 is one of the worst pieces of crap ever foisted on folks and sadly, 90% don’t have a clue that it even exists. Now, if you ask about kim and kanye, they’ll know it all. Wake up folks. Think “world heritage sites”.


4 posted on 02/10/2014 6:11:17 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: areukiddingme1

I’ve heard different iterations of this having to do with manatees in Florida. Include Florida panthers in there too. Now, if he was a wind powered energy generator, no harm, no “fowl”. ;>}


5 posted on 02/10/2014 6:14:03 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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Iffin’ the result of conception is simply a “fetus”, then let’s identify each as a “spotted owl fetus” and claim them as protected.


6 posted on 02/10/2014 6:15:55 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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Yep, the most important part of SSS is “Shut up.”


7 posted on 02/10/2014 6:15:57 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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Maybe it was just "time" for that species to become extinct.

I have no problem with that. I don't know where this notion of stasis in nature came from, but it is complete fallacy and unsupported by any facts. Millions of species have gone extinct, millions more will. There is nothing a granola-eating sandal-wearing hippie can do to stop that. Sure, mankind may even cause some of that or speed that on its way. That is perfectly natural too. I am sure many species' demise was caused/aided by other species.

As for SSS, I've seen it done. I think. Now, I can't prove anything but... A local rancher had a problem with prairie dogs. Their holes are a danger to cattle - breaking legs etc. Turns out they were some special sub-species and he couldn't get rid of them. But then, a few months later turns up the prairie dog colony has plague and has to be wiped out. I suspect rancher or one of his hands went down to AZ/NM and trapped a few rabbits or other small game that are known to carry fleas and plague. Then bring them back up, release them near the colony... Never prove anything - as long as they paid for gas and their campground with cash. ;-)

8 posted on 02/10/2014 6:17:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Flycatcher

Definitely don’t go on facebook to show off your kill.


9 posted on 02/10/2014 6:25:23 AM PST by refermech
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Shoot, cook, eat.................(burp).............


10 posted on 02/10/2014 6:28:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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Think of how many issues would have never been heard about if somebody did not take a picture and post it on the internet.

The whole Abu Grabe(sp?) prison scandal comes to mind. Some dumb a$$ soldier had to take pictures of the dude with a dog collar around his neck and post it on the internet.


11 posted on 02/10/2014 6:45:29 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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coming to a forest near you:
Townsend’s big-eared bats are found throughout most of California, including deserts, coastal redwood forests, and forests and woodlands in the Coast Ranges and Sierra Nevada, but are concentrated in areas with caves and cave‐like roosting habitat, such as mines, buildings, bridges and basal hollows in big old-growth trees. They are highly sensitive to human disturbance of their roosts sites, abandoning caves or other structures following human intrusion.
12 posted on 02/10/2014 6:50:07 AM PST by sasquatch
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from Simpson’ episode “The Frying Game”:

The Simpson’s have discovered they have a Screamapillar in their back yard, and an EPA official has told them they cannot harm it and must, in fact, protect it from harm, because it is an endangered species...

Lisa (reading from EPA pamphlet): “The Screamapillar is easily identified by its constant screaming — it even screams in its sleep. The Screamapillar is the favorite food of everything, is sexually attracted to fire, and needs constant reassurance or it will die”.

Homer: “You sure God doesn’t want it to die?”


13 posted on 02/10/2014 6:52:16 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: sasquatch

Just call me an intruder then. ;>}


14 posted on 02/10/2014 6:52:22 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: sasquatch

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2013/townsends-big-eared-bat-06-27-2013.html


15 posted on 02/10/2014 6:55:07 AM PST by sasquatch
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Don’t most people have the ears clipped when keeping them as pets?


16 posted on 02/10/2014 6:55:10 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: rktman

I would add: Keep a low profile.


17 posted on 02/10/2014 6:55:58 AM PST by tiki
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To: rktman
George Carlin Comments On Environmentalists
18 posted on 02/10/2014 7:08:51 AM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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Since the 80’s I have advised sellers or buyers of vacant land to first do an accurate assessment of any possible wetlands and what may be living there. Is there a mud puddle after a rain, caused by a clay layer beneath the surface (a perched water table)? Remove any wetland vegetation. Punch a lot of holes through the clay, add gravel to promote drainage, top off with topsoil and plant upland vegetation. If you don’t, you’ve got a wetland that renders part or all of your property off limits to development.

Any critters living there? Get rid of them if there’s any chance they could be considered “endangered”. Trap ‘em and move ‘em if you can; do what you have to if you can’t. If your property is declared habitat its value drops to zero.


19 posted on 02/10/2014 7:55:31 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Years ago beavers has constructed a dam. When it rained the nearby road flooded forcing people to use an alternate route that added about 15 miles to their drive.

The game commission was going to relocate the beavers when a distant wildlife protection organization caught wind of it. They filed a lawsuit which would probably take years to resolve. In the meantime everybody had to drive all that extra distance every time it rained.

One weekend the right folks went to a different rally somewhere, leaving the beavers alone.

On Sunday morning as the sun rose all the beavers were neatly lined up along the road - shot during the night or trapped. The beaver dam had been destroyed somehow - it was believed someone came in with a backhoe during the night. A search found nobody who saw anything.

The road never flooded again. Eventually the lawsuit was heard and the beavers were deemed protected animals and allowed to stay - except there were none living to enjoy their home.

End of story...


20 posted on 02/10/2014 7:59:52 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: JimRed

Can you say “night vision goggles”? Working in the dark can be tough.


21 posted on 02/10/2014 8:00:21 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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It involves plants too. Some of my family owns 6 acres of waterfront property, here in Florida, that was very valuable until surveyors found pitcher plants growing on it. Now, it is zoned wetlands and nothing can be built there, even though there are homes on either side.


22 posted on 02/10/2014 8:01:24 AM PST by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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Roger that. I remember several envirowackjob issues when we still lived there and folks who lived on the St. Johns were being denied expansion or building permits.


23 posted on 02/10/2014 8:03:30 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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>> “Working in the dark can be tough.” <<

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Add some eye nutrition to your diet (bilberry, zeaxanthin, xtazanthin)
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24 posted on 02/10/2014 9:26:10 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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It involves plants too. Some of my family owns 6 acres of waterfront property, here in Florida, that was very valuable until surveyors found pitcher plants growing on it.

Several years ago, an environmental nut job wanted to stop a shopping center from being built. He went and found an endangered plant and transplanted it into the proposed site. He got the shopping center plans stopped.

Then he went stupid and bragged that he had moved the plant. Too bad someone overheard the conversation and he got fined heavily for removing the endangered plant from its original habitat.

25 posted on 02/10/2014 9:47:09 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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Do a little “round up” spraying a couple of times, gravel it quietly with native rock and then have it reviewed in a couple years.


26 posted on 02/10/2014 9:50:14 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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If, while hunting for dinner, you instead find an endangered species—the half-jest, half-serious advice would be “shoot, shovel and shut up.”

Half Jest ???

27 posted on 02/10/2014 9:59:06 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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Colorado’s most favorite and hated ‘endangered’: Woody Woodpecker.


28 posted on 02/10/2014 12:08:20 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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why can't the EPA and all of its insanity be changed?...be nullified?...these laws get enacted and its like nobody can ever change it....

we need it to be eliminated....

29 posted on 02/10/2014 2:38:49 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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If, while hunting for dinner, you instead find an endangered species—the half-jest, half-serious advice would be “shoot, shovel and shut up.

I will take it and drop it on the property of the biggest liberal I can find.

30 posted on 02/10/2014 2:46:17 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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