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Why I'm Getting Sick of Defending Obamacare
National Journal ^ | Feb 11, 2014 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 02/11/2014 7:23:09 AM PST by upchuck

It's getting difficult and slinking toward impossible to defend the Affordable Care Act. The latest blow to Democratic candidates, liberal activists, and naïve columnists like me came Monday from the White House, which announced yet another delay in the Obamacare implementation.

For the second time in a year, certain businesses were given more time before being forced to offer health insurance to most of their full-time workers. Employers with 50 to 99 workers were given until 2016 to comply, two years longer than required by law. During a yearlong grace period, larger companies will be required to insure fewer employees than spelled out in the law.

Not coincidentally, the delays punt implementation beyond congressional elections in November, which raises the first problem with defending Obamacare: The White House has politicized its signature policy.

The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation. It spurred advisers to develop a dishonest talking point—"If you like your health plan, you'll be able to keep your health plan." And political expediency led Obama to repeat the line, over and over and over again, when he knew, or should have known, it was false.

Defending the ACA became painfully harder when online insurance markets were launched from a multibillion-dollar website that didn't work, when autopsies on the administration's actions revealed an epidemic of incompetence that began in the Oval Office and ended with no accountability.

Then officials started fudging numbers and massaging facts to promote implementation, nothing illegal or even extraordinary for this era of spin. But they did more damage to the credibility of ACA advocates.

Finally, there are the ACA rule changes—27 major adjustments, according to Fox News, without congressional approval. J. Mark Iwry, deputy assistant Treasury secretary for health policy, said the administration has broad "authority to grant transition relief" under a section of the Internal Revenue Code that directs the Treasury secretary to "prescribe all needful rules and regulations for the enforcement" of tax obligations, according to The New York Times.

Yes, Obamacare is a tax.

Advocates for a strong executive branch, including me, have given the White House a pass on its rule-making authority, because implementing such a complicated law requires flexibility. But the law may be getting stretched to the point of breaking. Think of the ACA as a game of Jenga: Adjust one piece and the rest are affected; adjust too many and it falls.

If not illegal, the changes are fueling suspicion among Obama-loathing conservatives, and confusion among the rest of us. Even the law's most fervent supporters are frustrated.

Ron Pollack, executive director of the consumer lobby Families USA and an ally of the White House, told The Washington Post he was "very surprised" by the latest delays. For workers at large companies that don't provide coverage, he said, "It's very unfortunate … that they don't have a guarantee it will be extended to them for quite some time."

Put me in the frustrated category. I want the ACA to work because I want health insurance provided to the millions without it, for both the moral and economic benefits. I want the ACA to work because, as Charles Lane wrote for The Washington Post, the link between work and insurance needs to be broken. I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Unfortunately, the president and his team are making their good intentions almost indefensible.


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the link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

AMEN!!! But nobamacare isn't the way to do it, obviously.

1 posted on 02/11/2014 7:23:09 AM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Comments at site: very cruel to poor Ronnie...


2 posted on 02/11/2014 7:27:20 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: upchuck

GOP should end healthcare insurance at work.
(Fix the tax code.) This old WW2 wage and price control idea is outdated and stupid.

And repeal the mandates so the market and consumers prevail.


3 posted on 02/11/2014 7:27:36 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: upchuck
the link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

..something RUSH has been saying for years....wonder if this author realizes it....*smiles*

4 posted on 02/11/2014 7:27:41 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: upchuck
...and naïve columnists like me...

Don't claim naivete, it's old fashioned stupidity. If you are 'naive' then you shouldn't be in the business........................

5 posted on 02/11/2014 7:28:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: upchuck
the link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

Why? Both the employees and employers are happy with it. If it were not for work provided insurance, most people would not be able to afford health insurance.

6 posted on 02/11/2014 7:29:33 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: proxy_user
Advocates for a strong executive branch, including me,

= Statist douchebag...

7 posted on 02/11/2014 7:30:52 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: upchuck
...Not coincidentally, the delays punt implementation beyond congressional elections in November,

And puts them squarely in the beginning of the Presidential primary season in 2016................

8 posted on 02/11/2014 7:30:52 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: upchuck
Unfortunately, the president and his team are making their good intentions ...
"The road to hell ..."
9 posted on 02/11/2014 7:34:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: upchuck

The reporter is admitting to being in the tank for Obama and Obamacare. The rats are jumping ship.


10 posted on 02/11/2014 7:37:10 AM PST by sr4402
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To: upchuck

The cure must NOT be worse than the disease.

We need to go back to what we had and modify it - not go forward to some idiot liberal idea that’s worse.


11 posted on 02/11/2014 7:39:07 AM PST by GOPJ ("Hillary Clinton says (the) press has big egos and no brains". - Tony Blair - May 19, 1993)
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To: Red Badger
“Don't claim naivete, it's old fashioned stupidity. If you are ‘naive’ then you shouldn't be in the business”

It is less naivete and stupidity than simple dishonesty. You literally can not have a job like that without being willing to obediently repeat any lie you are ordered to repeat.

These people are stupid in many ways. But they are careerists. And the only way to advance their careers and keep their jobs is to repeat the stories they are told to repeat.

The problem is they realized after they have lied too many times their credibility is destroyed, no one listens to them and they become useless. That is what the author is talking about. Repeated lying has destroyed his credibility and his career and he is tired of it. His usefulness is finished and he fears he will soon be without a job.

12 posted on 02/11/2014 7:47:42 AM PST by detective
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To: upchuck
Once again Ron Fournier reveals himself to be a childish, "do something, do anything", "the sky is falling so let's destroy the country to save it" style of confused leftist.

He dearly wants the government to be his daddy, because at some fundamental level he instinctively understands that Ron Fournier himself is not competent to act as a normal adult. That's probably why he can't understand that there are real adults in this world, some of them in the GOP. But he can't get past his anti-conservative bigotry and can't hide his knee-jerk, reflexive Democrat/Commie partisanship.

13 posted on 02/11/2014 7:53:07 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: upchuck

Ron Fournier, please pick up the white courtesy phone, the IRS is calling...

14 posted on 02/11/2014 7:54:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: upchuck
Put me in the frustrated category. I want the ACA to work...

The true reason for the author being frustrated is that he can not lie about the ACA anymore. He cannot effectively urinate on the LoFo's (low information voters) legs and tell them it is a spring shower, anymore, without being called out.

15 posted on 02/11/2014 7:59:19 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: upchuck

Is getting sick defending Obamacare covered by Obamacare?


16 posted on 02/11/2014 7:59:51 AM PST by NCC-1701 (I am proud of what America USED TO BE.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The reason for the high cost of healthcare is the connection...and then government’s intrusion...get back to free market and prices would drop.


17 posted on 02/11/2014 8:04:57 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: upchuck
--and naïve columnists like me--

Naive? Stupid would be a better description.

18 posted on 02/11/2014 8:08:35 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: upchuck

From Wikipedia:

Ron Fournier (born 1963) is an American national political journalist currently of the National Journal. Fournier had previously served as Washington bureau chief at the Associated Press (AP) until leaving in In June 2010.

...In May 2008, Fournier was named the acting Washington bureau chief, replacing his “mentor” Sandy Johnson. Since taking over the position, Fournier has led a dramatic shift in the AP’s policy, moving it away from the neutral and objective tone it had become known for and toward a more opinionated style that would make judgments when conflicting opinions were presented in a story.[4]


19 posted on 02/11/2014 8:09:51 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
the link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

Why? Both the employees and employers are happy with it.

I'm with you, Blood of Tyrants... Why should the link between "work" and "things you can buy with money you earn working" be broken?

Regards,

20 posted on 02/11/2014 8:12:10 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: upchuck
Put me in the frustrated category. I want the ACA to work because I want health insurance provided to the millions without it...

Looks like Ron still wants to believe in Santa Claus after all. In fact, the principal beneficiaries of 0bamacare are the well-funded bureaucracy it creates. It's of the government, by the government, and for the government. Pills For The Poor was always a scam and it simply hasn't happened yet, and if it ever does it will be an afterthought.

In point of fact, Ron is discovering that his ability to feel good is costing the rest of us a great deal of money and a great deal of political freedom. He's still for it, though, so long as it continues to make him feel nobler than the people he's defrauding.

21 posted on 02/11/2014 8:12:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: alexander_busek

Work = money = stuff I wanna buy.


22 posted on 02/11/2014 8:16:32 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: upchuck
I want health insurance provided to the millions without it, for both the moral and economic benefits. <<

...and I want Unicorns to poop skittles.....and what moral and economic benefits?????????????

23 posted on 02/11/2014 8:19:08 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: upchuck
I want health insurance provided to the millions without it, for both the moral and economic benefits.

Mr. Fournier, there is nothing moral about taking people's money at gunpoint because you "want health insurance provided to the millions." No matter how "charitable" you may think you are with other people's money, your real purpose is self-aggrandizement. Worse, there is no constitutional power for your Federal agents to do your paid hit for you. It is therefore taking money at gunpoint illegally. It is theft.

So much for "moral benefits."

24 posted on 02/11/2014 8:22:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Notice Fournie did not say the GOP has "...not offered a serious alternative that can work..."

25 posted on 02/11/2014 8:24:39 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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Yeah, what a DB. The guy decries the “win at all costs” mentality that led to Obamacare, then criticizes the GOP for not being able to effectively overcome/fight it.


26 posted on 02/11/2014 8:35:28 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: goodnesswins

You forget that the cost of medical care is very tightly linked with what the government will pay for a particular procedure, not supply and demand or market forces.


27 posted on 02/11/2014 8:39:10 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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...I want the ACA to work because I want health insurance provided to the millions without it...

Idiot. This 2010 turd started with 30 million and ends with 30 million "uninsured".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/07/obamacare-leaves-millions-uninsured-heres-who-they-are/

28 posted on 02/11/2014 9:04:21 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: upchuck

Ron you are a blithering idiot from the land of unicorns.


29 posted on 02/11/2014 9:14:19 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well of course....ever since government got involved....that was my point. I’m old enough to remember when there was no government in healthcare...and doctors made house calls....and we were lower middle class...


30 posted on 02/11/2014 9:48:35 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: upchuck

Who is this guy’s doctor, anyway? What if doctors said to these people who have ruined medicine for all of us—get lost!! Hit the road, M’sieu Fournier!


31 posted on 02/11/2014 10:05:01 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: upchuck
The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation

He says this disparagingly as though the heavy handed tactic is something to be looked down on yet Fournier still backed ACA.

These people make NO sense.

32 posted on 02/11/2014 10:19:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If it were not for work provided insurance, most people would not be able to afford health insurance.

If a tax credit is provided instead, millions can shop for their own insurance and prices will come way down.

Employer provided insurance is keeping prices sky high.

33 posted on 02/11/2014 10:21:26 AM PST by what's up
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To: Prov1322

I zeroed in in that too. It seens to me a de facto admission that the GOP has offered serious proposals.


34 posted on 02/11/2014 11:46:54 AM PST by pluvmantelo (The thing of it is, we must live with the living- Michel de Montaigne)
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To: Red Badger

~~~it’s old fashioned stupidity.~~~

Amen


35 posted on 02/11/2014 4:05:38 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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Good


36 posted on 02/11/2014 4:09:37 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: upchuck
I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress.

Hey, Obamacare proved that with a slim majority and a lot of bribery, anything can pass Congress--no matter what.

37 posted on 02/11/2014 4:13:15 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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The link between work and insurance needs to be broken.

The collusion between the DNC and MSM on daily talking points needs to be broken.

38 posted on 02/11/2014 4:28:13 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: upchuck
sick??? i hope you get so sick that you start puking up sh!t from past lifetimes...
39 posted on 02/11/2014 4:32:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: upchuck
"I want the ACA to work because the GOP has not offered a serious alternative that can pass Congress."

What a disingenuous bastard! Blame Harry Reid and the Democrats' Borg-minded intransigence, not Republicans for that!

HF

40 posted on 02/11/2014 4:37:39 PM PST by holden
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To: upchuck

Fournier is not too bright, aside from his partisanship. Numero uno, another big liberal, FDR, incentivized companies to offer healthcare a work by his Marxist wage and price controls. Now he wants another liberal pos to break that chain with another big liberal program that doesn’t work. Elitist bastard.


41 posted on 02/11/2014 4:51:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: upchuck

The Left has chosen its mantra: at least Obama tried to do something. That’s it. That’s what they are going with. That’s why the healthcare debate was lost when the Democrats framed it. Who did “we” have at the helm then? Noted orator and deep-thinker, John McCain. So, we had a “crisis”, and Obama “at least tried” to help the poor, poor, vulnerables. It should be pretty easy to hit that out of the park. Who do we have coming up to bat? Oh, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McCain, McConnell, etc ... What a parade of losers. The Emperor has no clothes, but nobody has the guts to point it out.


42 posted on 02/11/2014 5:32:43 PM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: upchuck
liberal activists, and naïve columnists like me Naive? Naive? How about "totally detached from reality"? We saw this coming in 2008.
43 posted on 02/11/2014 5:37:07 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: proxy_user
Haha! The only comment I saw in defense of the ACA was a gal responding to another comment...

"Many of us could not obtain health insurance once we got sick/disabled."

Hello?

44 posted on 02/11/2014 5:40:59 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: goodnesswins
The reason for the high cost of healthcare is the connection...and then government’s intrusion...get back to free market and prices would drop.

In what graveyard would that free market be found?

45 posted on 02/11/2014 5:53:03 PM PST by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence.)
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To: Organic Panic

Ron you are a blithering idiot from the land of unicorns.


I was going to say something similar, but you nailed it. Pithy and on-point. FRegards.


46 posted on 02/11/2014 5:59:08 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: upchuck
The Commies will shoot him first.
Sucker.
In fact the whole MSM will be shot first.

Useful idiots will recoil in terror when the cleansing begins,then,they will be shot by the very forces they supported.

“Useful Idiots”.

47 posted on 02/11/2014 6:10:00 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If it were not for work provided insurance, most people would not be able to afford health insurance.

Nonsense. Health insurance is part of your compensation as an employee. If, instead of providing it, your employer simply added its cost to your pay, and the tax code were changed to make health insurance deductible, then you could buy your own insurance and not be faced with yet another hassle when changing jobs.

Employer-provided health insurance got its start in this country as a way of avoiding libtard wage and price controls: Employers were forbidden to bid up wages, so they starting offering health insurance as a way around the wage limits. Employer-provided insurance is a monstrosity that should be abolished.

48 posted on 02/11/2014 6:14:35 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: upchuck
Advocates for a strong executive branch, including me,

I'm sure he was not an advocate of a strong executive branch when Bush was president.

49 posted on 02/11/2014 6:17:43 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: cynwoody

Thank you for your explanation


50 posted on 02/11/2014 6:33:50 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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