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Cruz Does Boehner No Favors (Boo-hoo)
Roll Call ^ | February 10, 2014 | Humberto Sanchez

Posted on 02/11/2014 3:10:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After championing the Affordable Care Act defunding strategy that led to the government shutdown in October, Sen. Ted Cruz continues to do Speaker John A. Boehner no favors — and some of Boehner’s allies think the tea party Texan should mind his own business.

Cruz in recent weeks has undermined Boehner’s approach on both immigration and the debt limit — the two biggest issues the Ohio Republican has been trying to navigate through his conference.

As Boehner unveiled his leadership team’s immigration principles at the House GOP’s retreat two weeks ago, Cruz and his staff simultaneously torched the push for an immigration overhaul this year on Twitter and in interviews, immediately playing the “amnesty” card.

“Anyone pushing that right now should go ahead and put a Harry Reid for majority leader bumper sticker on the back of their car,” Cruz told reporters early last week. It’s a line he’s used with some frequency in recent days, and the implicit target is Boehner, with whom Cruz has frequently sparred indirectly, if not directly, on the party’s strategy.

A few days later, amid fierce pushback in his conference, Boehner was downplaying the idea that the House would act this year on leadership’s immigration principles, which would offer a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants. (Boehner blamed a lack of trust in President Barack Obama to carry out the law.)

Cruz has also pushed repeatedly for another round of debt limit brinkmanship, even as the speaker looks to defuse the potential for another shutdown showdown ahead of the elections.

After speaking at a Heritage Action for America policy conference Monday, Cruz said the debt limit should not be raised without controlling spending.

“We’ll have to wait and see the details,” Cruz said of the House’s plans. “But if you ask anybody outside of Washington, D.C., should we raise the debt ceiling yet again, while doing nothing to address the out-of-control spending in Washington, the virtually unanimous answer from Republicans, Democrats, independents, libertarians — from everybody out of Washington, D.C. — is of course not.

“ . . . Our national debt has gone from $10 trillion to over $17 trillion in five short years and yet President Obama is asking Congress to give him a blank check; to allow him to keep maxing out the credit card without doing anything to fix the problem. I think that’s irresponsible. I hope the House doesn’t go down that road.”

Cruz made similar comments a week ago, prompting several Boehner allies to dismiss his criticism of and advice for House leadership.

Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, said it’s ironic Cruz is giving advice to House Republicans now, given his ill-fated push to defund the Affordable Care Act.

“Listening to him about leadership is folly,” Simpson said.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., said Cruz should play a more constructive role rather than taking on other Republicans.

“In terms of the debt limit, we have to be realistic that we don’t want to default on our debt,” Kinzinger said. “We also don’t have the Senate.

“Maybe Ted Cruz should spend a little time trying to win the Senate instead of attacking his fellow Republicans,” he said. “I thought that Ted Cruz was past [that], but maybe he isn’t.”

Rep. Aaron Schock, R-Ill., said Cruz has an easier job serving in the minority. “But the majority comes with it the responsibility to govern and that’s what we are trying to do in the House,” he said.

Boehner has generally declined to attack Cruz directly — talking recently with late night host Jay Leno about the Texas firebrand.

“Ted Cruz used to be my attorney a long time ago. A good guy. I don’t always agree with him, but he’s a good guy,” Boehner told Leno, while describing the shutdown as a “predictable disaster.”

Cruz, who told Bloomberg recently that he doesn’t “really know” Boehner, suggests immigration should be taken up in 2015, when Republicans could control the Senate.

He also believes that passage of an immigration overhaul would demoralize Republican voters.

Many Republicans have called for passing an immigration bill in order to appeal to the fast-growing Latino population. Supporters also argue that it makes sense for Republicans to take up the issue, given that there are millions of American-born children of illegal immigrants who will grow up to be voters.

But Cruz said he finds that establishment Republican argument condescending.

“The self-proclaimed D.C. gray beards who say, ‘It’s all about winning, baby’ as they are so fond of saying, [as if to say] ‘You grass-roots ruffians don’t understand our sophistication,’” Cruz said. “And sadly it’s with every bit of that dripping condescension that the D.C. establishment looks down at the American people.”

Dan Holler, communications director for Heritage Action, one of the outside groups that Boehner railed against for provoking the shutdown, said conservatives see Cruz and like-minded Republicans as champions of their cause willing to shake up the Republican orthodoxy of years past.

“The problem is not just Reid is blocking them, they have their own Republican leadership blocking them and that’s a real problem,” Holler said.

Holler said conservatives are looking for House Republicans to seek some kind of concession on the debt ceiling, hopefully along the lines of the dollar-for-dollar cuts achieved in 2011. But they don’t have high hopes.

“They have done everything in their power to downplay it and basically give away every bit of leverage that they ever had on it by telegraphing ... that there is absolutely no way we are going to win. ... We’ll have a fake fight and then we’ll cave. That’s not the way you’re going to win elections.”

He said conservatives feel like they have had somewhat of a victory on their fight against an immigration overhaul given reservations voiced by Boehner about the prospects this year.

“We are somewhat cautious,” Holler said, adding that the fact that Republicans put out principles “was alarming.”

“Until they are willing to rebuke their own principles ... I don’t think anyone in the conservative movement is going to rest easy,” Holler said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho; US: Illinois; US: Ohio; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; aaronschock; abortion; adamkinzinger; aliens; amnesty; boehner; deathpanels; election2014; election2016; idaho; illinois; immigration; jayleno; johnboehner; mikesimpson; obamacare; ohio; tedcruz; texas; zerocare

1 posted on 02/11/2014 3:10:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Boehner’s allies think the tea party Texan should mind his own business.

This Michigander thinks John Boehner should stop imposing his will on the rest of America.
2 posted on 02/11/2014 3:13:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

“Boehner’s allies think the tea party Texan should mind his own business.”

Cruz should mind his own business at least until he comes up with a winning strategy. Refusing to raise the debt limit isn’t one.


3 posted on 02/11/2014 3:16:50 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I watched Cruz’ interview with Bob Sheiffer just last week.

It was going as well as can be expected, but then sheiffer said, “you made a big mistake shutting down the government”, same talking points as Jay Leno’s.

No, “you were right about this Obamacare deal, you’re really taking care of the citizens, at least in Texas”. No, “I don’t like you, and you and you know why”.

Senator Cruz said, “I didn’t shut down the government. We have to take care of the money in government, the president shut down the government, choosing to not take no, you can’t have more of our childrens’ money, for an answer”.

Sheiffer shut him down so fast it was brutal, with, “that’s what Speaker of the House Boehner claims. He say’s you made a mistake”.

If Cruz says, “game on”, anyone blaming him is a coward. Someone has to preserve this country for our children.

Boehner sure isn’t. He’ll end up sorry, or we will. One or the other.


4 posted on 02/11/2014 3:19:26 PM PST by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s called leadership, something that is completely foreign to Boehner and his cronies.


5 posted on 02/11/2014 3:21:13 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: DugwayDuke

Do you need a napkin?

I think you have a little Boehner on your chin there.


6 posted on 02/11/2014 3:21:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: stanne

boehner is the second greatest threat to our republic!


7 posted on 02/11/2014 3:21:55 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: DugwayDuke
Boehner is your liberal. Cruz is doing exactly what I elected him to do. He needs to cause more problems for liberal republicans.

/johnny

8 posted on 02/11/2014 3:22:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
Cruz or Boehner?

Cruz or Boehner?

Cruz or Boehner?

I tell ya', I'm torn...

NOT! Boehner's got to go.

Support Eric Gurr to oust John Boehner in OH-8

Also, press your Representative to NOT support Boehner for Speaker - or Cantor, either!

9 posted on 02/11/2014 3:23:04 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: DugwayDuke
Cruz should mind his own business at least until he comes up with a winning strategy. Refusing to raise the debt limit isn’t one.

A GOP-E Boehner fan, I see.

10 posted on 02/11/2014 3:23:21 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: DugwayDuke

Cruz should mind his own business at least until he comes up with a winning strategy. Refusing to raise the debt limit isn’t one.


Sen Cruz doesn’t believe we can continue down the path we are on...of not reigning in spending. In other words, we cannot keep writing 0 a blank check. Passing the same bill a Speaker Pelosi would’ve pass is not what Repubs should be doing.

What is the “Winning Strategy”, in your opinion?

BTW, Sen Cruz IS minding his own business. The business his constituents sent him to DC to mind.


11 posted on 02/11/2014 3:23:45 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

Cutting spending seems to be a pretty solid strategy to me.


12 posted on 02/11/2014 3:26:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A half dozen more Ted Cruzes and maybe we’d have a chance.


15 posted on 02/11/2014 3:30:10 PM PST by skeeter
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To: cripplecreek

Me, too. Sen Cruz wants to see meaningful spending reforms. I do too.


16 posted on 02/11/2014 3:32:29 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

Serious regulatory and tax cuts would go a long way toward getting this country back on track.


17 posted on 02/11/2014 3:35:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

18 posted on 02/11/2014 3:40:52 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: DugwayDuke

Seems to me this is his business.


19 posted on 02/11/2014 3:48:13 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: cripplecreek

We are broke and still Obama gives other countries billions like we have so much money laying around we do not know what to do with it...


20 posted on 02/11/2014 3:53:06 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On behalf of all us Texans, we accept kudos for foisting Ted onto DC.

Still makes us mad thinking about the wasted years when Kay Bailey occupied that Senate seat.

We all thought Cornyn was conservative until Cruz showed us what a true conservative really acted like. Now we wish to ditch him too.

Now if the other states would follow suit....


21 posted on 02/11/2014 3:53:09 PM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz in recent weeks has undermined Boehner’s approach on both immigration and the debt limit

Thank you Mr Cruz for standing for the American people!


22 posted on 02/11/2014 3:57:57 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Jane Long

“What is the “Winning Strategy”, in your opinion?”

Do what is necessary to hold the house, win the senate, and elect a republican president even if those things mean voting for some ‘liberal’ republicans. Then, and only then, can you unwind Obamacare and reduce spending.


23 posted on 02/11/2014 4:28:22 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Timber Rattler

After Obama gets done with this country.We will need payday loans from the world


24 posted on 02/11/2014 4:36:39 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: DugwayDuke
Then, and only then, can you unwind Obamacare and reduce spending.

Bullshit. Last time the republicans had both houses, they spent like drunken sailors.

No-one is buying what you are selling. Because it's a lie.

/johnny

25 posted on 02/11/2014 4:48:27 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DugwayDuke

Nonsense. The Repub House could (have) halted ObeyMeCare (and more) anytime by voting not to fund. Yet another tired and pathetic canard: “We ONLY have the House... We ONLY have one branch.... We ONLY have the presidency...” It’s always someting juuuuust outta reach that keeps them from being conservative, isn’t it?

Have you really been here since ‘99? Hmmm.


26 posted on 02/11/2014 4:52:30 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

27 posted on 02/11/2014 5:01:08 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Timber Rattler

“It’s called leadership, something that is completely foreign to Boehner and his cronies.”

Boehner believes he is leading effectively. After all, when you don’t know where you are going, any road will take you there.


28 posted on 02/11/2014 5:50:28 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, said it’s ironic Cruz is giving advice to House Republicans now, given his ill-fated push to defund the Affordable Care Act.

It might not have been so ill-fated, if Republicans like Simpson hadn't trash talked the conservatives in Congress, joining the already willing media.

29 posted on 02/11/2014 6:10:29 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: DugwayDuke
Cruz should mind his own business at least until he comes up with a winning strategy. Refusing to raise the debt limit isn’t one.

Refusing to raise the debt ceiling is exactly the right thing to do when our government is borrowing .40 cents of every dollar in federal spending.

Read the article again. Our national debt has increased $6 Trillion dollars under this President. That's an unsustainable, suicidal level of government over-spending. It's going to topple our entire economy if someone doesn't put the brakes on it, and soon.

Paying our bills was never in question in the last debt ceiling fight. The money was there to do so. What we couldn't have done if the debt ceiling hadn't been raised, is fund all of the outrageous, unconstitutional welfare programs the Socialists in Congress love so much.

That's what the fight was really about, and Ted Cruz explained it in detail to everyone who was listening.

30 posted on 02/11/2014 6:33:34 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Do what is necessary to hold the house, win the senate, and elect a republican president even if those things mean voting for some ‘liberal’ republicans. Then, and only then, can you unwind Obamacare and reduce spending.

Yet another one who doesn't understand the concept of fighting for what's right, come what may.

You're not going to fix Washington by voting for more of the same liberal jackwagons who got us into this abysmal mess to begin with. Doing that just gets you more of the same.

No, the only way you can break out of that vicious cycle is to start voting your principles. When you do that, you get people like Ted Cruz in Congress. People who fight to see your will done at the national level.

31 posted on 02/11/2014 6:40:20 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DugwayDuke

There you go again.


32 posted on 02/11/2014 11:21:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: DugwayDuke
You could not be more wrong.

Cruz is speaking for all of us that love our country and he sees as we do the destruction that is being done by Obama and how weak the Republican party we have all supported just stands by, goes limp and will not fight back.

33 posted on 02/12/2014 10:44:32 AM PST by Katarina
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To: DugwayDuke

This is his business reigning in out of control spending. Jaun Boner is part of that problem. I bet your knee pads read I heart Johnny.


34 posted on 02/12/2014 1:25:14 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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