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Russia’s Right Turn. Moscow has reclaimed its 19th-century conservative role.
The American Conservative ^ | February 11, 2014 | William S. Lind

Posted on 02/11/2014 10:01:10 PM PST by cunning_fish

An unfortunate legacy of the Cold War is the negative attitude some American conservatives yet harbor toward Russia. Conditioned for decades to see Russia and the Soviet Union as synonymous, they still view post-communist Russia as a threat. They forget that Tsarist Russia was the most conservative great power, a bastion of Christian monarchy loathed by revolutionaries, Jacobins, and democrats. Joseph de Maistre was not alone among 19th-century conservatives in finding refuge and hope in Russia.

Under President Vladimir Putin, Russia is emerging once more as the leading conservative power. As we witnessed in Russia’s rescue of President Obama from the corner into which he had painted himself on Syria, the Kremlin is today, as the New York Times reports, “Establishing Russia’s role in world affairs not based on the dated Cold War paradigm but rather on its different outlook, which favors state sovereignty and status quo stability over the spread of Western-style democracy.”

In his own Times op-ed on Syria, Putin wrote, “It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it.” Sen. Robert A. Taft and Russell Kirk also doubted it.

Moscow appears to understand better than Washington that the driving foreign-policy requirement of the 21st century is the preservation of the state in the face of Fourth Generation war waged by non-state entities, such as those fighting on the rebels’ side in Syria. Russia has rightly upbraided Washington for destroying states, including Iraq and Libya.

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1 posted on 02/11/2014 10:01:10 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
The magnetic poles of Earth never did flip, but the ideological ones did.

America has become the Evil Empire that Russia once was.

2 posted on 02/11/2014 10:03:21 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

1950’s: America, pray for the conversion of Russia
2010’s: Russia, pray for the conversion of America


3 posted on 02/11/2014 10:11:29 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: annalex

Your list?


4 posted on 02/11/2014 10:18:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bd476

>>William S. Lind is the former Director of the Center for Cultural Marxism at the Free Congress Foundation.<<

Wow. I didn’t know it.


6 posted on 02/11/2014 10:42:17 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

I’m not really going for Lind’s argument here.

Russia may not be the danger they were during the Cold War, but they haven’t exactly shown themselves to be allies, either. Russian interests and spheres of influence continue to come into conflict with those of the U.S. We are rivals, and as two of the three superpowers on the planet (China being on its way to becoming the third), that’s not likely to change. The golden era of U.S. - Russian relations in the 19th century was a different time, when Russia acted primarily to protect her own interests by thwarting British ones.

The other thing is, Putin is a thug. We use that term a lot on FR, but Putin is the real deal. I cannot fathom why so many admire the guy. Strong and decisive doesn’t offset corrupt, repressive, and a whole lot of other bad things.


7 posted on 02/11/2014 10:47:37 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: DemforBush

“Putin is a thug.”

Putin came to the defense of the church with the Pussy Riot incident; he has lectured the US on our moral decline; he has drawn the line against the gay movement. Thug or not, he is acting like we would want our spineless conservative leaders to act.

This, by the way, is why he and his Olympics are getting excoriated by the media.


8 posted on 02/11/2014 11:00:58 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Have to agree.


9 posted on 02/11/2014 11:15:01 PM PST by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Thug or not, he is acting like we would want our spineless conservative leaders to act.

Let's put aside the disclosures made on this thread by enterprising FReepers who have brought William S. Lind's Marxist affiliations to our attention, and ask why any conservative would want a leader to act like a thug?

Conservatism is not merely a philosophy which picks and chooses among issues that grow like weeds favoring some and opposing others on an ad hoc basis. Rather, conservatism is a coherent philosophy grounded in the rights of the individual, secured by a rule of law, and guaranteed by a Constitution. The coherent philosophy required to sustain those institutions and the adherence to those institutions indispensable to sustaining the philosophy is far greater than our abhorrence of a particular practice, such as sodomy.

Hitler himself may have been a sodomite, many of his Nazi collaborators might have been sodomites, but he did murder gays in the Nazi party in the Night of the Long knives. Are we then to say, mass murderer or not, Hitler behaved as we would want our conservative leaders to behave?

Gays are as protected under our Constitution as are Christians, of whom I count myself one. I will not have my Constitution subverted or the rule of law discarded or conservatism perverted in the service of homophobia.


10 posted on 02/11/2014 11:35:00 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

You are right, Nathanbedford. And we don’t want to end up like our liberal foes, who give aid and comfort to their own enemies simply because those enemies are also enemies to the United States and Western civilization.


11 posted on 02/11/2014 11:51:52 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: bd476

A little Wikipedia surfing is a dangerous thing.

The man is a solid conservative and is not a Marxist. The center for cultural Marxism is an area of study inside the conservative think tank “Free Congree Foundation”. It was founded by Paul Weyrich. (also not a Marxist)

The man is responsible for the study and understanding of cultural Marxism. The Southern Poverty Law Center vilifies him as a man spreading fear of cultural Marxism, which they claim is imagined.


12 posted on 02/11/2014 11:53:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: nathanbedford

Lind is not a Marxist. That’s nuts. Someone is using the wiki entry and not understanding what they read. The guy is dedicated to fighting Marxism. He directed the area of a very conservative think tank that is studying the spread of it.


13 posted on 02/11/2014 11:58:24 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bd476

I think wikipedia is full of crap. But that’s nothing new.


14 posted on 02/12/2014 12:00:55 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: cunning_fish

This is from the Southern Poverty Law Center website.

“In a nutshell, the theory posits that a tiny group of Jewish philosophers who fled Germany in the 1930s and set up shop at Columbia University in New York City devised an unorthodox form of “Marxism” that took aim at American society’s culture, rather than its economic system.

The theory holds that these self-interested Jews — the so-called “Frankfurt School” of philosophers — planned to try to convince mainstream Americans that white ethnic pride is bad, that sexual liberation is good, and that supposedly traditional American values — Christianity, “family values,” and so on — are reactionary and bigoted. With their core values thus subverted, the theory goes, Americans would be quick to sign on to the ideas of the far left.

The very term, “cultural Marxism,” is clearly intended to conjure up xenophobic anxieties. But can a theory like this, built on the words of long-dead intellectuals who have little discernible relevance to normal Americans’ lives, really fly? As bizarre as it might sound, there is some evidence that it may. Certainly, those who are pushing the theory seem to believe that it is an important one.

“Political correctness looms over American society like a colossus,” William Lind, a principal of far-right political strategist Paul Weyrich’s Free Congress Foundation and a key popularizer of the idea of cultural Marxism, warned in a 1998 speech. “It has taken over both political parties and is enforced by many laws and government regulations. It almost totally controls the most powerful element in our culture, the entertainment industry. It dominates both public and higher education. ... It has even captured the clergy in many Christian churches.””

William Lind,,, a popularizer of the idea that cultural Marxism exists.


15 posted on 02/12/2014 12:04:00 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wiki is fine for learning about how aggregate is classified into silt, sand, and gravel.

But for learning about conservatives, it’s absolutely worthless. The wiki editors allow amazing slanders, distortions, and misleading entries,,,while sanitizing the pages of leftists.


16 posted on 02/12/2014 12:09:10 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Rennes Templar

17 posted on 02/12/2014 12:11:39 AM PST by caww
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To: DesertRhino; nathanbedford
DesertRhino wrote: "Lind is not a Marxist. That’s nuts. Someone is using the wiki entry and not understanding what they read. The guy is dedicated to fighting Marxism. He directed the area of a very conservative think tank that is studying the spread of it.


Fortunately it is possible for anyone to research as well as to look at the history of Wikipedia edits and I have been doing both for the past hour.

The Wikipedia article is still there. However from my research and in looking at the Wikipedia edit history, it appears that someone changed one word changing William Lind's title of "Director of Cultural Conservativism" into "Director of Cultural Marxism."

However the information that Lind was against the Iraq War and that he never served in the military is true.

Also true: William S. Lind co-authored a book with Senator Gary Hart in 1986. It is listed on Amazon:

America Can Win: The Case for Military Reform

I will ask for my earlier post to be removed.


18 posted on 02/12/2014 12:21:45 AM PST by bd476
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To: cunning_fish

ETL is gonna get you

My wife thinks Russia may be last sanctuary for whites

I tell her its even colder than middle TN this year

She pauses


19 posted on 02/12/2014 12:23:50 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim Robinson wrote: "I think wikipedia is full of crap. But that’s nothing new."


I guess that any place where people have freedom of speech, one is likely to find a lot of nonsense.
It's a shame that Wikipedia hasn't found a way to monitor each post and each edit as they go up on Wikipedia.

20 posted on 02/12/2014 12:29:50 AM PST by bd476
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To: bd476

It’s controlled by liberals. End of story.


21 posted on 02/12/2014 12:31:23 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: bd476

>>>It’s a shame that Wikipedia hasn’t found a way to monitor each post and each edit as they go up on Wikipedia.<<<

Shame on, you! You sound more Marxist than Director of Cultural Marxism himself:)


22 posted on 02/12/2014 12:33:14 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: DemforBush

Spoken like a true liberal democrat. The threat you guys see is ALWAYS coming from the right. Knock it off. Real thuggery resides at Pennsylvania Avenue and in the knockout game Eric Holder refuses to crack down on. Yeah what’s a few whiteys getting their asses kicked guess we really deserve it. According to you guys.


23 posted on 02/12/2014 12:35:01 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: cunning_fish
cunning_fish wrote: Shame on, you! You sound more Marxist than Director of Cultural Marxism himself"


Shame on you for your daily attempts to push Putin and the current edition of Russian Communist agenda down the throats of God Fearing Christian Conservatives.


24 posted on 02/12/2014 12:38:04 AM PST by bd476
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To: cunning_fish; bd476
Lind is an historian who along with Paul Weyrich studies Cultural Marxism, what we routinely call Political Correctness or Multiculturalism.

He is not himself a Cultural Marxist, which appears to be what the hit piece bd476 posted is trying to paint Lind as being. He calls himself paleoconservative or a monarchist

http://www.marylandthursdaymeeting.com/Archives/SpecialWebDocuments/Cultural.Marxism.htm

25 posted on 02/12/2014 12:38:55 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: bd476; cunning_fish; Pelham; Ohioan; Travis McGee; CatherineofAragon; chasio649; nathanbedford

Why don’t you tell the whole story

Maybe you’re too young but I guarantee you JR doesn’t think Linds ideological partner Paul Weyrich is a marxist

Center for Cultural Marxism is not what it sounds like....at all

Morris Dees and Potok and Berkowitz(no relation to Sam or the dog) at southern poverty law center have it listed as a hate site

They also dump some of our members as haters as well....and may even name us now as far as I know

Lind is a paleo....not a Marxist but nice try....typical

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that like most brick throwers here you have personal reasons but lack the courage to say what it is

Maybe you’re more at home at Southern poverty law center since you have IG in for Lind

Not to say Lind is perfect but he draws fire from the right enemies

And his main focus that our culture.... the one that has bound us like gkue for 200 plus years is collapsing is spot on

There is no one size fits all in picking sides but you can at least be honest
Nathan....you are as smart as they come here....Google Lind


26 posted on 02/12/2014 12:40:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: nathanbedford

“Let’s put aside the disclosures made on this thread by enterprising FReepers who have brought William S. Lind’s Marxist affiliations to our attention”

Lind doesn’t have “Marxist affiliations” anymore than a student of Nazi Germany has “Nazi affiliations”. He’s an historian studying Cultural Marxists in the US.

You all are remarkably casual at painting him with mud without having a clue as to what you are talking about.


27 posted on 02/12/2014 12:42:13 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: DesertRhino

Thank God for sanity

I salute you Rhino....I said same further downthread

And smart ....very smart....being misled

Original smear job was personal

Isn’t it always

Man....this at the time for PC wobbliness

Which I suspect is behind this hit

Just like Alinsky....smear and omit the truth


28 posted on 02/12/2014 12:44:23 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: DesertRhino

Thank God for sanity

I salute you Rhino....I said same further downthread

And smart ....very smart....being misled

Original smear job was personal

Isn’t it always

Man....this at the time for PC wobbliness

Which I suspect is behind this hit

Just like Alinsky....smear and omit the truth


29 posted on 02/12/2014 12:44:54 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: wardaddy

Maybe you remember the little Mormon twit who used to post Southern Poverty Law Center propaganda here at FR to try to shout down any threads against illegal immigration.

He ran with a little gang that tried to get immigration patriots banished. It may have been the same gang that went after you. I know two of them still post SPLC garbage here.


30 posted on 02/12/2014 12:50:11 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

Lol

You beat me by 2 minutes

Lind a Marxist is as absurd a declaration uttered here

And did not stand

That fact is inspiring..


31 posted on 02/12/2014 12:51:16 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: bd476

>>>Shame on you for your daily attempts to push Putin and the current edition of Russian Communist agenda down the throats of God Fearing Christian Conservatives<<<

First of all I was joking about your call to censure Wiki, which is known as a perfect collection of BS.
And second, what exactly makes me a communist sympatizer?


32 posted on 02/12/2014 12:52:54 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: nathanbedford
Gays are as protected under our Constitution as are Christians, of whom I count myself one. I will not have my Constitution subverted or the rule of law discarded or conservatism perverted in the service of homophobia.

This is for sure out of LEFT field. Any Christian worth his/her salt sure ought to know this nation has been blessed because of her acknowledgment from her beginning who gives unalienable 'rights' that no man/government can give or take. What is this so called service of homophobia?

33 posted on 02/12/2014 12:58:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: wardaddy

“Lind a Marxist is as absurd a declaration uttered here”

Yes, and whoever posted that crap at Wiki was firing for effect.

Lind is despised by the neocon cabal and that crew has a long history of using character assassination to destroy their paleo opponents. ME Bradford, Sam Francis, Joe Sobran, Pat Buchanan come to mind. When neocon flagship Commentary magazine did their hit piece on Buchanan it was written by the former president of the Young People’s Socialist League, Joshua Muravchik.


34 posted on 02/12/2014 1:03:05 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

You beat me by six minutes on this one..lol

I was watching that Duvall western with the Chinese girls

On apple TV..

As usual...cold...not like Urals but cold

I was in smokies this morning

Blanketed in white stuff

It was a John Boy moment


35 posted on 02/12/2014 1:06:18 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: Just mythoughts; NathanBedfordForrest

Isn’t ‘homophobia’ a word coined by the very sort of Cultural Marxists that Lind studies? I know it has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, which was ratified by States that had anti-sodomy laws on the books until the Left got them struck down in recent years.


36 posted on 02/12/2014 1:07:03 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

>>>Isn’t ‘homophobia’ a word coined by the very sort of Cultural Marxists that Lind studies? I know it has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, which was ratified by States that had anti-sodomy laws on the books until the Left got them struck down in recent years.<<<

Exactly! Here goes ‘racism’, ‘sexism’ scream on any issue.


37 posted on 02/12/2014 1:09:11 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Just mythoughts
"Thuggery" in high office is not justified because it is directed against sodomites.


38 posted on 02/12/2014 1:18:18 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Pelham
Isn’t ‘homophobia’ a word coined by the very sort of Cultural Marxists that Lind studies? I know it has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution, which was ratified by States that had anti-sodomy laws on the books until the Left got them struck down in recent years.

Homophobia goes along with the leftist rant against conservative; bigots, racists and homophobes. And it has been spewed out and about since the 80's by the looney left. I know because I have a bat-poo sibling that I can still hear ranting these words. History is on our side though, God is in control and He is the one that said sewer play was/is an abomination.

And if my memory serves me it was a Texas case that the ungodly supremes used to make 'sodomy' a right. And the sewer has overflowed ever since.

39 posted on 02/12/2014 1:18:33 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: nathanbedford
Gays are as protected under our Constitution as are Christians

So are terrorists. What is not protected is the fag agenda.


40 posted on 02/12/2014 1:19:09 AM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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To: nathanbedford

>>”Thuggery” in high office is not justified because it is directed against sodomites.<<

What are you talking about right now?


41 posted on 02/12/2014 1:20:40 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: nathanbedford
"Thuggery" in high office is not justified because it is directed against sodomites.

Putin is only 'mocking' US with his pretend outlawing of sodomy. Putin knows from whence our blessings come. I think there is plenty of 'thuggery' going on in many 'high' places, but it most certainly is not directed at the sodomites.

42 posted on 02/12/2014 1:31:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Rennes Templar

“Putin came to the defense of the church with the Pussy Riot incident”

Putin also was the only world leader who stated his country wid not stand idly by while Christians were being slaughtered in Syria by U.S.-supported muslim terrorists.


43 posted on 02/12/2014 1:49:18 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

wid=would


44 posted on 02/12/2014 1:49:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: 4Runner

LOL!!! Yeah, that’s it, dude. I’m a liberal plant because I don’t admire a former KGB colonel who presides over a country where journalists disappear, political dissent is censored, and has a level of crony capitalism that makes Obama look like an Eagle Scout by comparison. In Reagan’s time, pal, guys like that were the ENEMY.

Criminy, Putin’s no more an American-style conservative than Pol Pot was. People like you remind me of George C. Scott’s character in Dr. Strangelove - “Boy, I sure wish *we* had one them Doomsday devices!”

LOL!!!


45 posted on 02/12/2014 2:16:07 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: wardaddy; Jim Robinson; DesertRhino; cunning_fish; Pelham; Ohioan; Travis McGee; ...
wardaddy wrote: "Why don’t you tell the whole story...

...Maybe you’re too young

...nice try....typical

...I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that like most brick throwers here you have personal reasons but lack the courage to say what it is

...Maybe you’re more at home at Southern poverty law center since you have IG in for Lind..."


Brilliant Wardaddy! You have outed me as a cowardly anti-American leftist hanging out on leftists' sites 24 hours a day, while I steadfastly campaign for all the Commie Marxist Pigs I can stand.

And if you believe any of that, you're not quite the sharp cookie I had assumed you were.

Before this goes any further Wardaddy, I asked for my earlier post to be removed and checking again, it has been.

Earlier I responded to DesertRhino's post explaining my error in believing what turns out to have been someone's nefarious edit of Mr. Lind's former title "Director of Cultural Conservativism" into "Director of Cultural Marxism."

My response to DesertRhino is copied below and includes the link to Amazon selling the book Mr. Lind co-authored with Senator Gary Hart.

I have also responded to Jim Robinson's comments regarding my error.

Meanwhile here is a screenshot of the Wikipedia article on William S. Lind.

I have highlighted the instances where apparently someone edited in Marxist or Marxism in place of Conservatives or Conservatism.




William S. Lind



To: DesertRhino; nathanbedford
DesertRhino wrote: "Lind is not a Marxist. That’s nuts. Someone is using the wiki entry and not understanding what they read. The guy is dedicated to fighting Marxism. He directed the area of a very conservative think tank that is studying the spread of it.


Fortunately it is possible for anyone to research as well as to look at the history of Wikipedia edits and I have been doing both for the past hour.

The Wikipedia article is still there. However from my research and in looking at the Wikipedia edit history, it appears that someone changed one word changing William Lind's title of "Director of Cultural Conservativism" into "Director of Cultural Marxism."

However the information that Lind was against the Iraq War and that he never served in the military is true.

Also true: William S. Lind co-authored a book with Senator Gary Hart in 1986. It is listed on Amazon:

America Can Win: The Case for Military Reform

I will ask for my earlier post to be removed.

18 posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:21:45 AM by bd476



46 posted on 02/12/2014 2:27:43 AM PST by bd476
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To: DesertRhino; Jim Robinson
I think wikipedia is full of crap. But that’s nothing new.

14 posted on 02/12/2014 12:00:55 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Wiki is fine for learning about how aggregate is classified into silt, sand, and gravel.

But for learning about conservatives, it’s absolutely worthless. The wiki editors allow amazing slanders, distortions, and misleading entries,,,while sanitizing the pages of leftists.

IOW, you read Wikipedia the same way you read The New York Times - for factual, nonpolitical information. But always with your spidey senses activated in case there are political implications which might not be obvious at first blush.

It’s a simple formula: anyone who claims, not merely to try to be objective but actually to be objective, is not remotely objective about themselves. And will spew propaganda - perhaps while actually believing it.

The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing.

The man whom we believe is necessarily, in the things concerning which we believe him, our leader and director, and we look up to him with a certain degree of esteem and respect. But as from admiring other people we come to wish to be admired ourselves; so from being led and directed by other people we learn to wish to become ourselves leaders and directors . . .

The desire of being believed, the desire of persuading, of leading and directing other people, seems to be one of the strongest of all our natural desires. -  Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments


47 posted on 02/12/2014 2:39:47 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: DemforBush

>>LOL!!! Yeah, that’s it, dude. I’m a liberal plant because I don’t admire a former KGB colonel who presides over a country where journalists disappear, political dissent is censored, and has a level of crony capitalism that makes Obama look like an Eagle Scout by comparison. In Reagan’s time, pal, guys like that were the ENEMY.

Criminy, Putin’s no more an American-style conservative than Pol Pot was. People like you remind me of George C. Scott’s character in Dr. Strangelove - “Boy, I sure wish *we* had one them Doomsday devices!”<<

Who said Putin = Jefferson?
He is not Pol Pot either.

Who are these journalists “murdered” by Russian government? Are there any clues linking their deaths to a regime or just claims by their fellow liberal moonbats?

What political dissent exactly censored? They have dozens of liberal and communists medias bashing Putin and his regime 24/7.

Are there any American MSMs critical to Obamao left?


48 posted on 02/12/2014 2:41:14 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: nathanbedford

Very good comment. While you’re not likely to find many supporters on this thread, what you described is the essence of conservatism.


49 posted on 02/12/2014 2:44:15 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

Ped State. Go Sanduskies!


50 posted on 02/12/2014 3:15:29 AM PST by 867V309 (I love potatoes-except, of course, Lena Dunham)
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