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PPP Tries, But Still Canít Save Landrieu
Posted on 02/12/2014 5:34:55 AM PST by cotton1706
Earlier Tuesday, Public Policy Polling put out the results of a new poll they conducted on the Louisiana Senate race. The Democrat firm, whose results on the Senate campaign have been surprise! an outlier among other polls, headlined their findings with Landrieus Lead Narrows In U.S. Senate Race, and reported that in a head-to-head matchup between Mary Landrieu and Bill Cassidy the Democrat incumbent senator leads the Baton Rouge congressman by a 45-44 count (she leads in head-to-head races with the other two Republican challengers, though not by much), and in a four-way race between Landrieu, Cassidy, Paul Hollis and Rob Maness the incumbent leads with 43 percent, followed by Cassidy with 25 percent, Hollis with 5 percent and Maness with 3 percent.
PPPs sample size was 635 voters, and the poll was conducted Feb. 6-9.
Thats not a particularly stirring outcome for the incumbent. At 45 percent with only 11 percent undecided in a runoff with Cassidy shes going to fall far short of 50 when all the votes are counted. An incumbent does not get 42 percent of the undecided vote unless something very unusual and dramatic happens late in the race.
But our buddy John Couvillon, who knows all about these things, dives into the numbers and comes out with the opinion that this is the best result any reputable pollster could possibly deliver for Landrieu and that a more realistic reading of the tea leaves would leave her considerably short of PPPs results
(Excerpt) Read more at thehayride.com ...
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
Who counts the votes?
My guess is Landrieu will win.
posted on 02/12/2014 5:42:33 AM PST
(I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
Miss Piggy put Bammy’s disaster over on the peeps of Louzeeanna. Hope they finally retire her and she can enjoy some time with Kermie frog down on some choice bayou.
posted on 02/12/2014 5:42:43 AM PST
(Truth or Tyranny)
Democrats have been touting their own frustration WRT the botched ObamaCare rollout Sen Landrieu (Dim-LA) ran an ad featuring her "anger" at Obama for "breaking his promise" she calculatedly pivots to attacks on the GOP over healthcare.
In Landrieu, we bear witness to the offensive, twisted mind of a Democrat---- Landrieu proves why Dems should never, ever get even close to political power.
WHAT SHE WANTS VOTERS TO BELIEVE Landrieu aired a commercial showing her at numerous public settings last fall sternly telling Obama to "keep his promise to let people keep their current health plans if they want to" w/ Landrieu taking credit----after Obama's failed attempt to make that happen.....
REALITY CHECK: Landrieu is caught on-tape, in the well of the Senate, parroting Obama's infamous lie, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." AND THIS: If you like the insurance that you have, youll be able to keep it. (Landrieu on MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09)
Somebody better check Landrieu's self-serving commercial----prolly faked.
As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"
QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have choice of doctor. Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.
LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dems marched in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."
THE LANDRIEU PAPER TRAIL IS HUGE Landrieu sold her aye vote in what Forbes Magazine dubbed "The 'Louisiana Purchase" that included a massive $4.3 Billion to Landrieu.
FORBES REPORTED the Democrats nailed Landrieus support for Obamacare w/ a greenback bribe. Landrieu, critics believe, pledged her vote in exchange for some $200 million more additional federal funds for Louisiana. Except that, due to a drafting error, the law ended up giving Louisiana $4.3 billion: more than twenty times the assigned amount. MORE HERE http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
How $4.3 billion to Landrieu was attached to the Obamacare bill, and how Obama and Reid failed to catch and fix it, is yet annother indictment of the Obamacare atrocity. The payoff to Landrieu should be investigated as an indication of how EVERY Democrat came to vote for Obamacare.
<><> Where's the $4.3 billion, Mary?
BACKSTORY In the fall of 2009, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was trying to get the necessary 60 Dimocrat votes to pass the Affordable Care Act. He needed every Dim on board, which gave waffling senators a great deal of leverage. In Landrieu's case, she connivingly saw that selling her aye vote could get her maybe $200 million federal dollars. Obama complied--- Reid chalked up another vote for Obamacare---and the $4.3 Landrieu giveaway was attached to the Obamacare bill.
<><> Where's the money, Mary?
MEMO TO LOUISIANA VOTERS Sen Mary Landrieu not only (1) sold her vote; (2) she voted for throwing you off your health plans, (3) voted for nationalizing 1/16 of the US economy, Landrieu also (4) voted for IPAB's, and, for (5) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth (grandma/pa's holdings go to the govt---not to you). Read on.
Ominous cogs in the Obamacare meat grinder----the inexorable forcing of Grandma/pa onto Medicaid--(like cattle herded single-file onto the narrow ramp---knowing the bolt is coming---but not able to do a thing about it).
Medicaid conveniently groups together the sick and elderly---as Obama's IPAB board of radical Boobamba worshippers sit in judgment. Boobamba's Orwellian-speak---the progressive way of saying "Obamacare keeps costs down."
The infamous "Death Panels---are alive and well----but they're not called death panels......for obvious reasons. The treacherous Obama euphemistically calls his death panel "I-PAB---- Individual Payment Advisory Board." I-PAB decides what to pay and who to pay---thus rationing medical care to sick oldsters. Obamacare "allows" states to expand their Medicaid recipients pool. Under Obamacare, Washington now covers about 1/2 the cost of Medicaid enrollees.
What is I-PAB?
When you find out about IPAB, you will not believe it - but its r-e-a-l.... a new type of government agency. IPAB (Independent Payment Advisory Board) is the first agency of the fifth branch of govt.
1) It will make all important health care decisions by authorizing payment or not.
2) It is not funded by Congress and cannot have its budget reviewed or changed.
3) Its membership cannot be changed by future Presidents,
4) It cannot be repealed by Congress, except for a six month window in 2017.
5) Its decisions are not subject to judicial review.
6) It is not authorized by the Constitution, and is therefore immune to Constitutional processes.
Why is Obamacre herding seniors WITH ASSETS onto Medicaid---a program structured for the poor? Can you say redistribution of wealth? Herding the elderly with assets into Medicaid has ominous consequences that are intriguing to the left. B/c assets, perhaps a home owned free and clear, securities, annuities, investment property, can be seized to pay for govt treatment.
Thus intergenerational transfers of wealth (a longtime progressive bugaboo)----are decimated (grandma/pa's holdings go to the govt---not to you).
REMINDER: Lock-stepping Sen Mary Landrieu (Dim-LA) voted for this.
posted on 02/12/2014 5:43:08 AM PST
SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09) SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: We believe and we stand by this if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward. (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09) SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): If you like your insurance, you keep it. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09) SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it. (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09) SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it. (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10) SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term grandfathered plans. If you have a plan you like existing policies you can keep them.
we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in. (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10) THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve. (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10) SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want. (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09) SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you. (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09) SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): So we want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we're going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want. (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11) SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): Our bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it
(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09) SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage
(Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09) SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): I also believe this legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change. (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09) SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): People who have insurance they're happy with can keep it We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they're happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage. (Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired, National Journals Congress Daily, 6/18/09) SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): If you like the insurance that you have, you'll be able to keep it. (MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09) SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): [I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have. (CNNs Newsroom, 10/22/09) SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): If you like what you have, you get to keep it Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won't have to change. If you like what you have, you get to keep it, he said. (Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says, The Record, 6/19/09) SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): [E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it. (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09) SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it. (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09) SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): I want people to know, the President's promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09) SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it. (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09) SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): If you have coverage you like, you can keep it, says Sen. Sanders. (Sick And Wrong, Rolling Stone, 4/5/10) SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it My understanding
if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that.
under every scenario that Ive seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it. (Sen. Shaheen, Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire, Accessed 11/13/13) SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the chairman's mark is is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That's a strong commitment. It's clear in the bill
I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That's the bottom line for me. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09) SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): If you like your coverage, you'll be able to keep it, Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger. (Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care, The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09) SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won't. If you like your current plan, you can keep it. (What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress, Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09) SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.):
it honors President Obamas programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.(Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)
posted on 02/12/2014 5:45:23 AM PST
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
An incumbent does not get 42 percent of the undecided vote unless something very unusual and dramatic happens late in the race.
I would doubt that an incumbent would get 10% of the undecided!!!
posted on 02/12/2014 6:00:40 AM PST
4) It cannot be repealed by Congress, except for a six month window in 2017.
Congress can repeal anything they want if they have the will of the people.
posted on 02/12/2014 6:04:08 AM PST
posted on 02/12/2014 6:15:04 AM PST
The US Senate just voted to place Landrieu as Chair of the Senate Energy and Natural
Resources Committee. An attempt to give her some appeal back in LA which is a large
energy producing state. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
posted on 02/12/2014 6:17:57 AM PST
..sorry,it’snot what I “copy”
posted on 02/12/2014 7:25:36 AM PST
(USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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