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Stalinist Lawlessness: Companies Must Swear to IRS They Didnīt Fire Employees Because of Obamacare
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 2/12/14 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/12/2014 11:53:29 AM PST by Nachum

RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, there´s so much going on out there. The lawlessness of this Regime knows no bounds. There´s nothing stopping this man from doing anything. If he wants to raise marginal tax rates, he can just do it. Nobody´s gonna stop him. Here is the latest. As you know, the Regime recently delayed the implementation of the employer mandate for three years, until 2016. This means that employers who have a hundred or less employees will be subject to the mandate. (Snip) I mean, this is absolutely lawless. It is against the law. They cannot, ladies and gentlemen,

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bananarepublic; employermandate; irs; irsobamacare; lawlessness; obamacare; obamacarebusiness; obamacarefelony; obamacareillegal; stalinist; tyranny
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Comrades... you need protection
1 posted on 02/12/2014 11:53:29 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 02/12/2014 11:53:51 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Can we get Obama to swear, under the penalty of prosecution, that he has not been amending Obamacare for political reasons?

I didn’t think so.


3 posted on 02/12/2014 11:54:28 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Nachum

The gestapo arm of the U.S.A. - United Socialists of America


4 posted on 02/12/2014 11:56:14 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Nachum

But we no longer endorse loyalty oaths...


5 posted on 02/12/2014 11:57:17 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Nachum

ARE YOU GUILTY OF 0BAMACRIME?

WELL, ARE YOU?


6 posted on 02/12/2014 11:57:46 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: PGalt

I thought Keith Ellison and his Democrat pals were proud of Obamacare getting those people out of nasty “job lock” to pursue their hobbies.

Shouldn’t employers claiming Obamacare as the reason for layoff should be getting an award for increasing “freedom”? (like Chuck Schumer claimed on Sunday TV)


7 posted on 02/12/2014 11:58:42 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Nachum

“That’s the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want”

“Yes, we can.”


8 posted on 02/12/2014 11:59:04 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Nachum

Is there a multiple choice option that reads: NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS !


9 posted on 02/12/2014 11:59:15 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Nachum

It may be lawless but he can do it because he is doing it.


10 posted on 02/12/2014 11:59:41 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: Nachum

So what happens (besides massive audits) if a company tells the IRS to pound sand?


11 posted on 02/12/2014 12:00:25 PM PST by AU72
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To: Nachum

It’s a business decision, not one you have to be under oath to do.

This also is illegal as the law as it was passed gives no authroity for Obama to demand this.

This is attempting to silence businesses from speaking the truth abotu what Obamacare is doing to their businesses. It’s so clear it’s incredible Congress isn’t screaming about it.

Unfortunately our Republican RINO leadership believes they will get the WH in 2016 and are eager to govern exactly the same way as Obama is right now, as they will cite Obama’s abuses and say nobody stopped him, or said it was unconstitutional, so now OUR guy will be lawless as well.

Not a winning strategy.


12 posted on 02/12/2014 12:01:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AU72

Goes to court.


13 posted on 02/12/2014 12:01:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AU72
So what happens (besides massive audits) if a company tells the IRS to pound sand?

They don't get Obamacare waived for this year even if they are below 100 employees.

14 posted on 02/12/2014 12:02:00 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: TurboZamboni
Shouldn’t employers claiming Obamacare as the reason for layoff should be getting an award for increasing “freedom”?

Nice. Medal of FReedom thinking to you, TurboZamboni. : )

15 posted on 02/12/2014 12:02:07 PM PST by PGalt
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To: luvbach1

Not just because he;’s doing it. It’s because he’s doing it, AND nobody else is stopping him.

In particular Congress.

Which is why all our current RINO/GOPe leadership must be removed and replaced with conservatives who WILL stop Obama.

It’s the last civil option if SCOTUS does nothing.


16 posted on 02/12/2014 12:03:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AU72; Secret Agent Man

The IRS padlocks their business, freezes all their monetary assets so they can’t pay for their own defense, audits the last 10 years of records, sends in the FBI, DEA, OSHA, etc to investigate and fine them...

you know...

“due process”.


17 posted on 02/12/2014 12:05:37 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man

What gets me is this is basically telling the business that they have to sign a paper stating a lie, under the penalty of perjury.


18 posted on 02/12/2014 12:06:36 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man

One of the things I learned working with European companies was that the harder and more expensive you made if for companies to fire or layoff people..the fewer people they took the risk of hiring. Why invest in new business and new jobs if you run the risk of high costs if the venture fails?


19 posted on 02/12/2014 12:06:56 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

exactly. It’s like you become the government welfare net for them once you hire them (over there) and that’s what the marxists here want.


20 posted on 02/12/2014 12:07:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Nachum
I could ask where in the un-Affordable Care Act does is say that an employer is required to justify layoffs, or for that manner in the IRS code.

but I know it's a DIKTAT.

21 posted on 02/12/2014 12:11:08 PM PST by AU72
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To: MrB

Look, technically it won’t be a lie. The HR departments of most companies are staffed with people that have been told forever, to fire people and find reasons to justify the firings. They can find any instance or instances of violations of the business’ employee handbook and you’re gone. It will not be a lie at all, they will find violations, they will find performance issues, and they will be documented.

I recall a guy talkign about how he worked in the warehouse of a company for 20+ years and was let go because a security cam had showed him with three other guys chatting before work, punching in, and one guy punched in all four guys (against the rules but never before an issue), even though they all were there. They were looking for a reason to justify firing them because they were higher paid, and wanted to get new people in to pay them lower wages. They had been doing this the last two years to other workers there. These guys knew it and saw it happen.


22 posted on 02/12/2014 12:13:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AU72

I am guessing, treatment similar to what the tea party groups endured under the IRS troops. And visits from OHSA, FBI, EPA, etc., etc. They will make the business owners’ lives hell for years to come.


23 posted on 02/12/2014 12:15:05 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Too stupid to work here as proven by the Obama 2012 sticker on your car”


24 posted on 02/12/2014 12:15:34 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Worth repeating:
Unfortunately our Republican RINO leadership believes they will get the WH in 2016 and are eager to govern exactly the same way as Obama is right now, as they will cite Obama’s abuses and say nobody stopped him, or said it was unconstitutional, so now OUR guy will be lawless as well.

25 posted on 02/12/2014 12:17:23 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: NEMDF
They will make the business owners’ lives hell for years to come.

If all businesses tell the IRS where to stick it, they can only reach a small percentage.

26 posted on 02/12/2014 12:20:32 PM PST by AU72
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To: AU72

None of this is going to end pretty.


27 posted on 02/12/2014 12:22:17 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Nachum

Is it illegal to fire employees because of Obamacare?


28 posted on 02/12/2014 12:24:09 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Nachum

So what if the companies do this? What are the feds going to do? They should just ignore this edict!


29 posted on 02/12/2014 12:24:10 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Nachum

This is big. I am glad Rush picked it up.


30 posted on 02/12/2014 12:25:32 PM PST by lodi90
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To: hal ogen

Very well could end up with bodies swinging from lamp posts.


31 posted on 02/12/2014 12:25:55 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TurboZamboni

Re: “I thought Keith Ellison and his Democrat pals were proud of Obamacare getting those people out of nasty “job lock” to pursue their hobbies.

Shouldn’t employers claiming Obamacare as the reason for layoff should be getting an award for increasing “freedom”? (like Chuck Schumer claimed on Sunday TV)

Exactly correct! These companies are heros of the revolution because they are freeing their oppressed employees from job lock.


32 posted on 02/12/2014 12:26:11 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Nachum

The SCOTUS has already ruled that the 1st amendment protects your right to lie. You just can’t do it under oath or with certain signed documents. I’ve actually amended boilerplate forms offered to me by large companies before signing.

I wonder if companies are required by law to submit to and answer the question.


33 posted on 02/12/2014 12:27:15 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Nachum

Isn’t it funny that the same people who shouted Fascism!every other day during the last administration are completely silent when textbook examples of fascism are displayed by the current administration.

Is it racist to notice that?


34 posted on 02/12/2014 12:31:07 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Unfortunately our Republican RINO leadership believes they will get the WH in 2016 and are eager to govern exactly the same way as Obama is right now, as they will cite Obama’s abuses and say nobody stopped him, or said it was unconstitutional, so now OUR guy will be lawless as well.

Not a winning strategy.


Unless you can come up with 60 conservative Senators the only way we will undo obama is through the exeuctive action of a future POTUS. The Dems will brawl. We must be prepared to do the same or we will keep losing.


35 posted on 02/12/2014 12:31:15 PM PST by lodi90
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To: AU72
So what happens (besides massive audits) if a company tells the IRS to pound sand?

If every business did that, the government would be shitting themselves and the citizens would be free slaves.

If only enough had the balls.

36 posted on 02/12/2014 12:32:13 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Nachum
Is there a place on the IRS form that you can check that states: Fu@k You?

5.56mm

37 posted on 02/12/2014 12:33:53 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Nachum
I assume loyalty oaths are next...
38 posted on 02/12/2014 12:45:06 PM PST by GOPJ ("Washington Redskins" - Keep the Name. Change the mascot to a potato. - FR hoosiermama)
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To: luvbach1
Obama's trying to push us into rebelling so his goons can use some of the millions and millions of rounds they've bought.

It's not gonna happen. We're just going to wait him and his thugs out... then we'll NEVER elect that type again.

39 posted on 02/12/2014 12:50:35 PM PST by GOPJ ("Washington Redskins" - Keep the Name. Change the mascot to a potato. - FR hoosiermama)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure I understand how this is supposed to work. Where is it written that a company can be penalized for reducing its workforce because of Obozocare? If Bozocare increases my expenses I have to cut costs/workers. If I refuse to sign the form do I not get the exemption? Legally they cant do a thing.


40 posted on 02/12/2014 12:50:58 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: chrisser
Is it racist to notice that?

No, the racism is coming from the other direction, and very brazenly and blatantly and apologetically.
41 posted on 02/12/2014 12:55:29 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel
Apologetically=unapologetically
42 posted on 02/12/2014 12:56:11 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Nachum

“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”.


43 posted on 02/12/2014 12:59:15 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: KarlInOhio

If a business reduces employees to less than 100 and then refuses to swear as to why it did it, the freedom of speech case would put a few more twists into Mr.Pretzel(aka John Roberts).


44 posted on 02/12/2014 1:02:13 PM PST by RossA
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To: Nachum

THIS IS A DICTATORSHIP in all but name. The spinate and congress are the willing roman senate to this nero. The constitutional republic we are supposed to have is dead.

This ruling has every intention to shut up any opposition. If you are made to swear, under penalty of perjury, that any decisions you have made are not the result of obastard care then you can NEVER speak out against it.

If any of you or anyone else does not recognize that we are at war for the survival of the Republic and that we are losing you are not paying attention.


45 posted on 02/12/2014 1:51:16 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: MrB
Very well could end up with bodies swinging from lamp posts.

Upside down, like Mussolini.

46 posted on 02/12/2014 1:57:40 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Nachum

Video – 7 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh1TBYdi1g4

RUSH: This Is Way Beyond A Banana Republic Now. This Is Stalinism.

http://dailyrushbo.com/rush-this-is-way-beyond-a-banana-republic-now-this-is-stalinism/


47 posted on 02/12/2014 2:29:00 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Secret Agent Man

And that will be too late to do any good and they know it.

The courts will not do any good because they are allowing the damage to be done and get worse.

It is like a poor fellow I know that got stiffed on a very expensive remodel and build out using massive Cherry Wood moldings, counter tops, stairs and such. You can file a mechanic’s lien but you can’t collect a dime until the place is sold. Too late to do any good because you’re bankrupt.

In our case you can file all the lawsuits you want but at the end of the day the Republic dies.


48 posted on 02/12/2014 3:45:25 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: lodi90
51 Votes is All That's Needed As we look toward the mid-term elections and wonder if the Democrats will lose the Senate and the Republicans will keep the House, consider the new filibuster rules. Just three months ago, Senate Democrats changed the rules. Instead of needing 60 votes to end a filibuster, they need only 51 votes. As a result, many courts will be packed with liberal justices. But the change in filibuster rules can be used to the Republicanʼs advantage when they retake the Senate and the presidency. Instead of needing 60 votes to repeal Obamacare, theyʼll only need 51 votes. This year is the Republicanʼs best chance in years to retake the Senate and 2016 is coming. (“Senate Rules for Radicals,” The Wall Street Journal, November 22, 2013.) http://www.senateconservatives.com/site/races/2014/ky
49 posted on 02/12/2014 3:55:15 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: cuban leaf

There is no law requiring an employer to sign this. There is no penality to compel their signature. Their only possible jepordy would be if they did sign it.

CC


50 posted on 02/12/2014 5:42:28 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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