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Europe Considers Wholesale Savings Confiscation, Enforced Redistribution
zerohedge ^ | 02/12/2014 21:28 -0500 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/12/2014 6:38:41 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin

At first we thought Reuters had been punked when we read about the latest proposal by the European Commission, but after several hours without a retraction, we realized that the story is sadly true. Sadly, because everything that we warned about in "There May Be Only Painful Ways Out Of The Crisis" back in September of 2011, and everything that the depositors and citizens of Cyprus had to live through, seems on the verge of going continental. In a nutshell, and in Reuters' own words, "the savings of the European Union's 500 million citizens could be used to fund long-term investments to boost the economy and help plug the gap left by banks since the financial crisis, an EU document says." What is left unsaid is that the "usage" will be on a purely involuntary basis, at the discretion of the "union", and can thus best be described as confiscation.

The source of this stunner is a document seen be Reuters, which describes how the EU is looking for ways to "wean" the 28-country bloc from its heavy reliance on bank financing and find other means of funding small companies, infrastructure projects and other investment. So as Europe finally admits that the ECB has failed to unclog its broken monetary pipelines for the past five years - something we highlight every month (most recently in No Waking From Draghi's Monetary Nightmare: Eurozone Credit Creation Tumbles To New All Time Low), the commissions report finally admits that "the economic and financial crisis has impaired the ability of the financial sector to channel funds to the real economy, in particular long-term investment."

The solution? "The Commission will ask the bloc's insurance watchdog in the second half of this year for advice on a possible draft law "to mobilize more personal pension savings for long-term financing", the document said."

Mobilize, once again, is a more palatable word than, say, confiscate.

And yet this is precisely what Europe is contemplating:

Banks have complained they are hindered from lending to the economy by post-crisis rules forcing them to hold much larger safety cushions of capital and liquidity.

The document said the "appropriateness" of the EU capital and liquidity rules for long-term financing will be reviewed over the next two years, a process likely to be scrutinized in the United States and elsewhere to head off any risk of EU banks gaining an unfair advantage.

But wait: there's more!

Inspired by the recently introduced "no risk, guaranteed return" collectivized savings instrument in the US better known as MyRA, Europe will also complete a study by the end of this year on the feasibility of introducing an EU savings account, open to individuals whose funds could be pooled and invested in small companies.

Because when corporations refuse to invest money in Capex, who will invest? Why you, dear Europeans. Whether you like it or not.

But wait, there is still more!

Additionally, Europe is seeking to restore the primary reason why Europe's banks are as insolvent as they are: securitizations, which the persuasive salesmen and sexy saleswomen of Goldman et al sold to idiot European bankers, who in turn invested the money or widows and orphans only to see all of it disappear.

It is also seeking to revive the securitization market, which pools loans like mortgages into bonds that banks can sell to raise funding for themselves or companies. The market was tarnished by the financial crisis when bonds linked to U.S. home loans began defaulting in 2007, sparking the broader global markets meltdown over the ensuing two years.

The document says the Commission will "take into account possible future increases in the liquidity of a number of securitization products" when it comes to finalizing a new rule on what assets banks can place in their new liquidity buffers. This signals a possible loosening of the definition of eligible assets from the bloc's banking watchdog.

Because there is nothing quite like securitizing feta cheese-backed securities.

And topping it all off is a proposal to address a global change in accounting principles that will make sure that an accurate representation of any bank's balance sheet becomes a distant memory:

More controversially, the Commission will consider whether the use of fair value or pricing assets at the going rate in a new globally agreed accounting rule "is appropriate, in particular regarding long-term investing business models".

To summarize: forced savings "mobilization", the introduction of a collective and involuntary CapEx funding "savings" account, the return and expansion of securitization, and finally, tying it all together, is a change to accounting rules that will make the entire inevitable catastrophe smells like roses until it all comes crashing down.

So, aside from all this, Europe is "fixed."

The only remaining question is: why leak this now? Perhaps it's simply because the reallocation of "cash on the savings account sidelines" in the aftermath of the Cyprus deposit confiscation, into risk assets was not foreceful enough? What better way to give it a much needed boost than to leak that everyone's cash savings are suddenly fair game in Europe's next great wealth redistribution strategy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
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All your money are belong to us.
1 posted on 02/12/2014 6:38:41 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Bump


2 posted on 02/12/2014 6:41:41 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I wonder if the folks in EUrope knew they had voted into being an all-consuming gubamint that would eventually devour them so it could survive.


3 posted on 02/12/2014 6:42:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It’s time to hang politicians from lamp posts and burn their buildings to the ground.


4 posted on 02/12/2014 6:44:47 PM PST by wny
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To: DeaconBenjamin
All your money are belong to us.

So true.

However, this is only a question of method, not result. The "investment" projects will obviously be confiscatory redistribution to keep the lid from blowing off.

We're not that different here in result, but we go about it in a different (so far) and less explicit way. When the US government's debt burden becomes too high, it will most likely inflate and tax it away, which is a different way of confiscating accumulated savings than a direct debit. The spending driving the debt will be called social investment here, too. Saaaame thing, really.

5 posted on 02/12/2014 6:46:29 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Get ready for the biggest bank run in history.


6 posted on 02/12/2014 6:46:42 PM PST by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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The pensioned, jackbooted enforcers will be more than happy to assist in the theft.


7 posted on 02/12/2014 6:50:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“Europe Considers Wholesale Savings Confiscation, Enforced Redistribution”

Holy cow! The EU elites want to live through a second French revolution, complete with beheadings, buckets of blood and brains seeping out their various Nazi and commie orifices.

Okay. I don’t have a problem with that.


8 posted on 02/12/2014 6:51:59 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: deputytess

Yup!


9 posted on 02/12/2014 6:53:50 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

10 posted on 02/12/2014 6:58:05 PM PST by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: sergeantdave

It takes real men to have a revolution with beheadings and the like. Unfortunately all the real men in Europe died at the Somme, Verdun and Stalingrad.


11 posted on 02/12/2014 6:59:43 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Confiscate bank & pension accounts, make cash illegal, confiscate PMs. That ought to do it.
Now if you’re a good boy or girl, you might get your state allowance.
Too bad the euros don’t have a 2A.


12 posted on 02/12/2014 7:00:01 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

May you live in interesting times.


13 posted on 02/12/2014 7:03:39 PM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
and no guns to protest with either... hummm
14 posted on 02/12/2014 7:07:15 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
 
 
The Obama Regime and the accompanying Politburo (congress) are feverishly taking notes.
 
 

15 posted on 02/12/2014 7:16:49 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: henkster

“It takes real men to have a revolution with beheadings and the like. Unfortunately all the real men in Europe died at the Somme, Verdun and Stalingrad.”

Completely understand your sentiment; however, if i were a wild-eyed barbarian, thinking that the Britons were easy pickings, I’d contact my life insurance agent first and be certain that I had burial insurance.

I’ve served with Brits, and their warriors are still first-class, kick-ass MFers who can serve a major hurt on those they perceive as the enemy.

Take care, henkster.


16 posted on 02/12/2014 7:27:38 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


17 posted on 02/12/2014 7:34:12 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Time for a bank run?


18 posted on 02/12/2014 7:36:51 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Surely they will give you some type of receipt or IOU. /sarc


19 posted on 02/12/2014 7:45:03 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: GeronL

The Conservative government in Ottawa passed a law that allows a troubled bank to confiscate some of your cash that you have on deposit. (CONFISCATE- AN UGLY WORD).
A big change in banking has taken place.
We always thought when you deposited your money in the bank it was a case where the bank merely “held” your money on deposit.
No longer. When you deposit your money in the bank you have now lent your money to the crooks.
Your deposit is now a debt that the bank owes.
In the case of bankruptcy I guess your claim goes into the pile of debt that might bring you a few cents on the dollar.
I wonder if it is the same in the USA?


20 posted on 02/12/2014 8:06:11 PM PST by lostinthesixties
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To: lostinthesixties

probably will be soon


21 posted on 02/12/2014 8:08:09 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...
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Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

22 posted on 02/12/2014 8:34:03 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: wny

“It’s time to hang politicians from lamp posts and burn their buildings to the ground.”

Unfortunately (for them) that is likely the only way the proles will get their attention.


23 posted on 02/12/2014 8:38:09 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The almight POTUS (pen of the US) is busy taking notes.


24 posted on 02/12/2014 8:40:09 PM PST by bgill
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To: GeronL

All the more reason to keep the cash on hand somewhere NOT in a bank.


25 posted on 02/12/2014 8:42:46 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: null and void

Somehow one of my favorite quotes has gone missing and it’s ticking me off. Wouldn’t bother me if I could recall it sufficiently but I can’t and I don’t remember who said it.

Have you any recollection of a quote that indicated if all money was redistributed evenly it would eventually return to the original holders.

It’s important because it’s profound and if I found out it is one of the things wiped from existence by big nanny it couldn’t piss me off more.


26 posted on 02/12/2014 8:43:25 PM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

There are those close to this admin. that believe 401(k), IRA etc are examples of wealth and privilege that should not be allowed.

Remember also the mutterings in Hillarycare days and since 2009 that retirement accounts should be (partly) used to fund health reform.

IRAs and the like represent assets = independence, something these types of gov’t detest.


27 posted on 02/12/2014 9:07:42 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: wny

“It’s time to hang politicians from lamp posts and burn their buildings to the ground.”

That would be a modest start.


28 posted on 02/12/2014 9:12:00 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: sergeantdave
Ask yourself, "Who will send us a gun after we surrender ours?"

29 posted on 02/12/2014 9:28:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Lady Jag

I remember the quote, but don’t have a source.


30 posted on 02/12/2014 10:13:58 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Lady Jag

If all the money and property in the world were divided up equally at, say, 3 o’clock in the afternoon, by 3.30pm there would already be notable differences in the financial conditions of the recipients. Within that first 30 minutes, some adults would have lost their share. Some would have gambled theirs away and some would have been swindled or cheated out of their portion (thereby making some others richer). The disparity would increase with growing momentum as time went on. After 90 days, the differences would be staggering. And, I’m willing to wager that, within a year or two at the most, the distribution of wealth would conform to patterns almost identical with those that had previously prevailed.
John Paul Getty


31 posted on 02/12/2014 10:16:51 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: null and void

Dave Chapelle did a skit on that, in which blacks were given millions in reparations; the white news anchors were commenting on how eager blacks seemed to give the money back. One guy bought a truck loaded with menthol cigarettes, while another actually became the wealthiest man in the world by gambling his money in dice games. They also had the stock for phone companies go up as millions of delinquent accounts were paid up...


32 posted on 02/13/2014 5:06:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: null and void

coming soon to a dictatorship near you


33 posted on 02/13/2014 5:28:34 AM PST by Nifster
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Bkmk


34 posted on 02/13/2014 5:29:54 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

BBTT


35 posted on 02/13/2014 6:31:32 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: 1066AD

The ruling class has been eyeballing the billions locked up in 401K accounts for a while now. They haven’t had the courage to take this on for fear of a backlash. But the current rulers are showing signs that they don’t give a damn about any backlash.


36 posted on 02/13/2014 8:19:01 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Bookmark


37 posted on 02/13/2014 8:32:48 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: null and void
LOL! You have no idea how long I've searched for that quote and all I had to do was ask you.

THANK YOU!




38 posted on 02/13/2014 8:56:22 AM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: null and void




Support your Free Republic



39 posted on 02/13/2014 9:07:34 AM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: lapsus calami
The Obama Regime and the accompanying Politburo (congress) are feverishly taking notes.

It's already been talked about in public...by "our leaders"....

40 posted on 02/13/2014 9:17:47 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Mike Darancette

"That's as good as money, sir. Those are I.O.U.'s. Go ahead and add it up, every cent's accounted for."

41 posted on 02/13/2014 9:19:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Lady Jag; Shimmer1

I have a FRiend whose children tell her “Ask nully, he knows everything!”

I don’t, but still...


42 posted on 02/13/2014 9:23:48 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: null and void

As demonstrated by lottery winners everywhere.


43 posted on 02/13/2014 9:31:25 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: null and void
Those are good friends It's awesome to be having people calling you genius.




44 posted on 02/13/2014 9:34:08 AM PST by Lady Jag (Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society. - Aristotle)
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To: sergeantdave; null and void
Holy cow! The EU elites want to live through a second French revolution, complete with beheadings, buckets of blood and brains seeping out their various Nazi and commie orifices.

The EU bankers and politicians know the quickest way to end up naked and dismembered swinging from a lamp post is try to end the welfare state. They absolutely can not stop spending; their lives depend on it.

Middle class Germans probably won't riot when their pension funds are "rolled into government securities." 40 year old Greek, Spanish and Italian pensioners and government employees absolutely will burn their cities to the ground if the checks stop.

45 posted on 02/13/2014 9:37:21 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: lostinthesixties
-- We always thought when you deposited your money in the bank it was a case where the bank merely "held" your money on deposit. --

That's a fiction that banks want you believe. But, the legality of the matter is that once you give money to the bank, it is literally, as a matter of law, the bank's money, not your money. It has always been that way.

46 posted on 02/13/2014 9:40:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Thanks for posting.

I subscribe to two non-statist financial sites/magazines that have been advising to get your money out of banks NOW and don’t look back.

Also, safety deposit boxes. Get a floor safe - one commenter said his safe is located under his pit bull’s dog house.


47 posted on 02/13/2014 11:48:51 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

As Obama’s spending orgy sinks America deeper into financial turmoil, he is about to turn Uncle Sam’s acute funding crisis into YOUR problem.

In fact, Obama’s Treasury and Labor Departments just held outrageous, executive branch hearings on nationalization of retirement accounts, and they are actively looking for the opportunity to ram this asset grab through.
Your nest egg is in their cross-hairs; you know, to “protect you” from losing your own money.

Congressional heavyweights such as Rep. George Miller (D-CA) have already held hearings on “merging” 401(k)s, IRAs, and other tax-advantaged private savings programs into the failed Social Security program.

Here’s what is going on.

The cash-strapped Obama Administration’s unofficial 401(k) nationalization czar is utopian New School for Social Research academic Teresa Ghilarducci — who was dubbed by U.S. News and World Report as “the most dangerous woman in America” after she appeared before Congress to testify in favor of government seizing 401(k)s and other retirement assets.
The “Most Dangerous Woman in America”
Who Helped Obama Rip Off GM Bond Holders
Now Wants YOUR Retirement Money!

Following her Congressional testimony at a 2008 hearing to begin ending 401(k) and IRA tax advantages, Ghilarducci admitted on conservative talk show host Wilbur Kirby’s KVI 570 show in Seattle the truth about the left’s scheme for gaining control of private retirement accounts:

“I’m just rearranging the tax breaks that are available now for the 401(k)s and spreading [here she paused briefly to consider her words] spreading the wealth...”

Why? Major state pension funds, state governments, and the entire federal entitlement program structure are on the verge of collapse and in need of bailouts due to collapsing tax revenues.

In addition to the Congressional hearings referenced above — and an “automatic IRA” bill introduced in August by Senator John Kerry (D-MA) — Obama bureaucrats are working furiously on new regulations (CFR, Part 1, RIN 1545-BJ04) to “herd” unsuspecting 401(k)/IRA holders’ money into government-approved “investments,” such as federal government debt. The “mainstream media” have totally blown off this story.

Lee Bellinger, Publisher
Independent Living


48 posted on 02/13/2014 11:58:02 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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