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Ice, more snow, threaten to extend Triangle shutdown
News Observer.com ^ | 2/12/14 | BRUCE SICELOFF AND ANDREW KENNEY

Posted on 02/12/2014 7:19:56 PM PST by Kartographer

Subfreezing temperatures and a night of rain and sleet on top of Wednesday’s snow promise to keep the Triangle largely shut down through Thursday night and possibly into Friday.

The second stage of the storm was setting in even as police and tow trucks tried to clear the vehicles abandoned on the sides of roads and highways Wednesday. Forecasters had predicted the storm for days, prompting Wake County schools to close Wednesday, but the snow seemed to catch thousands off guard, trapping columns of cars on snow-whitened streets and highways.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: globalcooling; preparedness; preppers
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Some people are just bound and determined to be VICTIMS!!!
1 posted on 02/12/2014 7:19:56 PM PST by Kartographer
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The Bermuda Triangle?


2 posted on 02/12/2014 7:20:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kartographer

http://www.weather.com/news/commuter-conditions/charlotte-traffic-standstill-winter-storm-pax-photos-20140212

Chaos...


3 posted on 02/12/2014 7:22:04 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Kartographer

Ice storm wallops Southeast, stranding drivers, cutting power

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/12/us/winter-weather/

From the article: Gridlock gripped portions of the state, including Raleigh, Durham and Charlotte, as cars and trucks got stuck on snow- and ice-covered roads.
“We saw so many people ... cars piled up and left on the side of the road, and wrecks,” said Christina Martinson, who was stuck in the snow-bound traffic with her husband and son for hours in Durham.
“It’s really, really bad, and it got so bad so quickly that people just weren’t ready. Even though we were warned, it just happened more quickly than you would think possible.”
For some, there just wasn’t enough time.
Michael Crosswhite, 44, planned on leaving work in Raleigh, in Wake County, by midafternoon, well ahead of when forecasters initially predicted a snow and ice storm to hit the area.
But by noon, the snow and icy rain was coming down.
‘Nothing you can do but hope you don’t get stuck’
“We just passed an 18-wheeler that spun out into a ditch,” he said by telephone more than two hours into his journey home to Durham, a trip that typically takes less than 30 minutes.
Moments later, a car ahead of him spun out in front of him.


4 posted on 02/12/2014 7:24:13 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Gene Eric

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory?


5 posted on 02/12/2014 7:27:21 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Kartographer

Nertz. I’m betting the Envirothon team won’t get to go to Raleigh on Saturday for Soil Science, and nobody worth mentioning can go the next weekend. Gripe, grump, dang and blast.


6 posted on 02/12/2014 7:29:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (The platypus is a metaphor for anything that's keeping you down.)
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To: Kartographer

One year in the late 90’s we had ice storm after ice storm for about a month (in PA). I had a blast with my 4-wheel drive Toyota pickup. I would go out with a six-pack of beer and drive around pulling folks out of ditches on the sides of roads.


7 posted on 02/12/2014 7:30:38 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Kartographer
"Some people are just bound and determined to be VICTIMS!!!"

Just a week ago when Atlanta got shut down by a storm I suggested such a kit and was not so much surprised as disappointed by how many FReepers thought that carrying such a kit was foolish. Just goes to show that there are even some FReeppers who rather depend of FEMA or the National Guard to bring them a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for thier boo-boo and maybe even get thier picture on the national news rather then to take any precautions themselves.
8 posted on 02/12/2014 7:31:22 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers PING!!


9 posted on 02/12/2014 7:32:19 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Gene Eric

Every state and beyond has a triangle. Indicating which state might help.


10 posted on 02/12/2014 7:38:22 PM PST by bgill
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To: Kartographer

Some will never learn.


11 posted on 02/12/2014 7:39:49 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

North Carolina. This current Weather Thing is what we call a big deal in these parts. We might run out of the supplies for milk sandwiches before we can safely get to the Walmart again! Everyone Panic!!!


12 posted on 02/12/2014 7:40:44 PM PST by Tax-chick (The platypus is a metaphor for anything that's keeping you down.)
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To: Kartographer
I couldn't endure a full two years in the “Triangle”.

The NC natives are generally nice, normal people. There are very few natives in that particular area...

13 posted on 02/12/2014 7:41:25 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: Kartographer

I just saw a picture of the interstate in Atlanta.

Looks like they learned their lesson from the last storm.

There wasn’t a vehicle to be seen on the road.


14 posted on 02/12/2014 7:47:50 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Kartographer

I have a 1 lb coffee can that I carry in the car. Its got a couple of space blankets, box cutter, multitool, 2 pairs of 72 inch shoelaces, roll of gorilla tape, a dozen tea candles, pair of pliers and a couple of screwdrivers and flashlights. Since it’s winter I always carry my carhartt coveralls, extra gloves, clean socks, toilet paper etc.

Nothing for long term survival but enough to get through the night if I have to.


15 posted on 02/12/2014 7:50:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: metmom

16 posted on 02/12/2014 7:51:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kartographer

I do not understand this being such a big deal.
I spent my first 50+ years near Memphis. We had low to sub teen temps, average 4-6 inch snows in many winters, and 1963 with a 14 inch snow and -13f temp. That was a fun year. The park commission set up barrels of burning wood around the park ponds to keep the ice skaters warm. I was only a teenage driver, but had no problem on the snow and ice covered streets.
We did have a big ice storm with power out in the early 50s, when my parents, and the 3 of us boys, evacuated to a downtown hotel.


17 posted on 02/12/2014 7:52:36 PM PST by AlexW
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To: cripplecreek

What are the two images of?

I’m never good at guessing stuff like that.


18 posted on 02/12/2014 8:03:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Kartographer

It is a winter wonderland here in HSV. The kids will be out of school tomorrow. I love the few snow days we have. No complaining from me. I am a kid at heart, anyway.


19 posted on 02/12/2014 8:03:16 PM PST by MamaB
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To: Kartographer

On the other hand, there are some of us who keep the woodrack high and the generator fuel tank full...and who cut up those tree limbs alongside the road to raise the rack even higher.

Spent last Wednesday morning using my snow blade to bulldoze tree limbs from the township road. My motto is “make things better than you found them.”


20 posted on 02/12/2014 8:05:34 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: AlexW

People don’t know how to drive anymore.

I personally believe it has a lot to do with safety equipment overload. One of the local driving instructors told me that they don’t even teach how to drive out of a slide anymore because cars have traction control now.

Give me a rear wheel drive car without all the safety equipment and a slick back road and I can perform a ballet.


21 posted on 02/12/2014 8:09:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: metmom

Atlanta during the last storm and Atlanta from The Walking Dead.


22 posted on 02/12/2014 8:10:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

OK.

The pictures I’ve seen for this storm show the streets deserted.

Never saw the movie, although it did look like a zombie apocalypse type to me.


23 posted on 02/12/2014 8:14:27 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: bgill

Well you can mark the Golden Triangle in Texas off the list of possibilities. Weather is finally cleaning up there.


24 posted on 02/12/2014 8:14:50 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Kartographer; Maudeen

I believe this is the kind of weather my Dad talked about when he rode his horse to grade school.


25 posted on 02/12/2014 8:18:09 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: bgill
I remember one particular FReeper when I was detailing the small kit I kept, Slepping bag, old set of sweats, a couple pairs of soxs, a old moving quilt, flashlight, a few other odds and ends, plus some hard candy and a couple of rolls of Ritz Crackers and a jar of reanut butter, then I commented: "Is that so much is it really?"; Well this FReeper replyed back: "Ritz Crackers and Peanut Butter, really?"
26 posted on 02/12/2014 8:24:54 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: stars & stripes forever

Up hill both ways of course. ;-)


27 posted on 02/12/2014 8:25:50 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: MamaB

I know my Mom’s 77 birthdays was yesterday and her and her friends put off her Birthday dinner until next week.


28 posted on 02/12/2014 8:28:07 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Cymbal of the times...


29 posted on 02/12/2014 8:28:50 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kartographer

If I’m starving that sounds good to me.


30 posted on 02/12/2014 8:32:48 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gene Eric; null and void
Naw....it's the Francois Hollande Triangle.

Leni

31 posted on 02/12/2014 8:32:55 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Kartographer

There are Atlanta FReepers out there that think this storm is rare and may not be repeated for years or even decades. All indications are that we are entering a new ice age and everyone should prepare for it.


32 posted on 02/12/2014 8:45:04 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kartographer

Happy birthday to your mom. It is so quiet and peaceful out. Everyone is inside eating snow cream by the fire. I love it like this. No traffic whatsoever. They are saying 4-6” east of I 65 and that is this area. The friends I have talked with have said they wished it would snow instead of being so cold. We got our wish. : )


33 posted on 02/12/2014 8:48:40 PM PST by MamaB
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To: cripplecreek

What are the shoe laces used for?


34 posted on 02/12/2014 8:53:04 PM PST by Engedi
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To: sarasmom

Ha! I lasted two years to almost the day. And I bitched, moaned and cried most of the time. Honestly, I was ready to leave day one. Certainly my former co- workers must rejoice on days like today that they no longer have to listen to me whine.


35 posted on 02/12/2014 8:57:26 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Gene Eric
The Bermuda Triangle?

No, it's Phil Jackson's triangle offense.

36 posted on 02/12/2014 9:20:23 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Kartographer
3-4 years ago we got 2' of wet heavy snow overnight. I'm near the SW PA /WV line out in the country. Trees across the road, couldn't get out of the valley for 3 days, no power for a week.

For a vast majority of folks it was no big deal. Gas and water stayed on. It only dropped to the low 20s F. Open your oven and heat a couple of rooms. I don't have gas but have a kerosene heater. It was sorta like camping with a comfortable bed and running water.

Ran into some college kids that live a couple miles down the road. Horror stories..."We almost died...so cold".

I asked them why they didn't build a fire in the back yard, you're surrounded by tens of thousands of acres of WOODS!

They didn't think of that.

37 posted on 02/12/2014 10:08:04 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Gene Eric

No - Research Triangle Park.


38 posted on 02/13/2014 1:58:37 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Gene Eric

Research Triangle Park is the business/research area between the “triangle” of Durham, Raleigh, and Chapel Hill here in NC. Probably 50,000 or more people commute in and out of the area. RTP has one of the highest concentrations of engineers, PhDs in hard/computer sciences, and academics in general (includes pulls from three major universities.... Duke, UNC and NC State). It is very atypical to the general NC population.


39 posted on 02/13/2014 2:58:49 AM PST by AK_47_7.62x39 (There are many moderate Muslims, but there is no such thing as a moderate Islam. -- Geert Wilders)
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To: Engedi

Binding victims. LOL

They just make great all purpose ties.


40 posted on 02/13/2014 4:06:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Cementjungle

One year in the late 90’s we had ice storm after ice storm for about a month (in PA). I had a blast with my 4-wheel drive Toyota pickup. I would go out with a six-pack of beer and drive around pulling folks out of ditches on the sides of roads.
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Back in the 1980s (don’t recall the year) we had a very bad ice storm here in the DFW area. It took me about 2 hours to drive the 9 miles to work on side roads instead of freeways, as I was in Mgt. and expected to be there. ...........Had an employee who took a couple of vacation days, rented a small backhoe and made a ton of money pulling folks out of ditches or just off of the slick shoulders onto a road.


41 posted on 02/13/2014 4:37:05 AM PST by octex
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To: bgill

Every state and beyond has a triangle. Indicating which state might help.
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Sorry FRiend. You totally lost me there. What’s this triangle you mentioned? ...Don’t ever recall seeing such.


42 posted on 02/13/2014 4:50:22 AM PST by octex
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To: cripplecreek

I always have my GHB and a case of bottled water in my truck.


43 posted on 02/13/2014 4:55:19 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: cripplecreek

I was stuck in the belt line traffic around the N. side of Raleigh yesterday.
Went into the Drs. Office at 12:30, not a flake. Came out at 1:30, snowing like mad, roads covered and congested. Took 2 1/2 hrs. to go 2 miles.

I made sure I had a heavy blanket in the car before I left. What did I forget?
A pot to piss in. :)
Was able to make it home before it got to emergency levels.
Note to self. Pack coffee can.:^)


44 posted on 02/13/2014 5:15:50 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: sarasmom

That place is a dammed zoo.

It’s as if someone cut a piece out of Marin County, CA and dropped it in Eastern NC. Having said that, the hospital at Duke is the best I’ve ever seen.


45 posted on 02/13/2014 5:32:28 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: AK_47_7.62x39
RTP has one of the highest concentrations of engineers, PhDs in hard/computer sciences, and academics in general...It is very atypical to the general NC population.

Haaaay Skooter! Don't look now but I thank we's just been in-sulted!


46 posted on 02/13/2014 5:45:21 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: sarasmom
I couldn't endure a full two years in the “Triangle”.

I had to do two weeks at RTP recently to deliver some training. It was okay. But you are correct...it would get on my nerves after a few months.

47 posted on 02/13/2014 5:48:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: cripplecreek

Box of granola bars, some jerky, and a flat of water and you are set. I would also put some Tylenol or ibuprofen in in case you get achy from being in the car for an extended period.

Good system you have there!


48 posted on 02/13/2014 5:52:03 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting. As much as I’ve watched that show(never missed an episode), I never noticed that skyline not looking like Atlanta’s. I would have expected better out of them.


49 posted on 02/13/2014 6:12:08 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kartographer

So far, every time a real storm has headed for the Triangle, Triad, Charlotte area the forecast has been off by hours. The storm comes through earlier than forecast, chaos on the roads follow.

Yesterday, it happened to us. I kept telling husband that we needed to head home, he kept telling me we had time. Not so, we ended up making a harrowing 25-mile loop around the lake to get to the one little country road that does not cross a lake inlet before it reaches our road. All the direct routes cross lake inlets and all of them were blocked by multiple disabled vehicles in minutes. Folks around here don’t get driving on icy hills.

I can’t imagine what Raleigh was like. Its a hateful place to drive at best.


50 posted on 02/13/2014 7:17:30 AM PST by Roses0508
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