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Ben Carson, family and friends target of IRS harassment for criticizing Obama
http://www.examiner.com ^ | February 11, 2014 | Joe Newby

Posted on 02/13/2014 5:17:42 AM PST by xzins

Edited on 02/13/2014 5:25:48 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

On Monday, Dr. Benjamin Carson, the former director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, said he and his family were targeted by the IRS in retribution for comments critical of Barack Obama, Newsmax reported.

According to Carson, audits and other harassment began in May or June of 2013, just a few months after his speech at the National Prayer Breakfast. Gradually, he added, the harassment expanded to include family members, associates, and his charitable endeavors.

“I’ve been quite — I would say astonished at the level of hostility that I have encountered,” he told Newsmax TV’s John Bachman.

“The IRS has investigated me. They said, ‘I want to look at your real estate holdings.’ There was nothing there. ‘Well, let’s expand to an entire [year], everything.’ There was nothing there. ‘Let’s do another year.’ Finally, after a few months, they went away. But they’ve come after my family, they’ve come after my friends, they’ve come after associates,” he added.

Until now, Newsmax said, Dr. Carson has shied away from tying the IRS actions to his criticism of Obama, but now he says Americans live “in a Gestapo age” even though they may not realize it.

He also said Congress has to step up to the plate and do its job.

“The reason we have divided government is if one branch of the government gets out of control, starts thinking they’re too big for their britches, you need to be able to have control,” he said.

…”We sit there and we say, ‘Oh this is horrible.’ But we don’t do anything. And see, that’s what I’m trying to get our congressional people, our lawmakers – they’ve got to get courage,” he said. “Because why would anybody who has an agenda to fundamentally change this nation, why would they stop if no one is opposing them?”

Carson also believes the retribution will continue, but promises he will not be forced into silence.

“The only reason that I haven’t shut up is because in Romans 8 it says ‘If God be for you, who can be against you?’ And I believe in that protection that God gives you,” he added.

Carson’s experience is “not that different from what many others are experiencing,” said GOP lawyer Cleta Mitchell. “It’s quite, quite troublesome and disturbing.”

“I have heard this same story over and over and over throughout the last year,” she said. “I cannot tell you how many donors to conservative organizations, people who have become active, have said ‘I was never audited until I started giving money to X conservative candidate or cause.’”


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KEYWORDS: carson; gestapo; irs; irsisthenewkgb; kgb; obama; policestate
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1 posted on 02/13/2014 5:17:42 AM PST by xzins
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Carson also believes the retribution will continue, but promises he will not be forced into silence.

“The only reason that I haven’t shut up is because in Romans 8 it says ‘If God be for you, who can be against you?’ And I believe in that protection that God gives you,” he added.

2 posted on 02/13/2014 5:18:13 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

The biggest power we had in this country was a separation of powers. With a compliant legislature giving the executive branch anything and everything it wants with a judiciary that refuses to respond to common Americans, it’s becomes very clear that America is no longer a constitutional republic.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 5:20:05 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Impeach the hero of benghazi and remove from office.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 5:21:06 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: xzins
"Carson also believes the retribution will continue, but promises he will not be forced into silence."

And every day that Obama is not challenged and stopped by a sycophantic GOPe and by a corrupt justice system, he grows bolder. There will soon come a day when groups and individuals who openly and publically oppose Obama will be silenced by any means necessary.. After all, as Obama has said, he can do anything that he wants.

5 posted on 02/13/2014 5:22:46 AM PST by Truth29
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To: xzins

Going to jail?

Lois Lerner needs to be given the needle. The death penalty is appropriate for her destructive crimes against the Republic


6 posted on 02/13/2014 5:24:52 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: xzins
How long is is this going to go on before Republicans in Congress start treating it with the seriousness that it deserve?

As long as we have bohenr & mcconnell in leadership roles.

7 posted on 02/13/2014 5:25:57 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Truth29

I’ve said before that they have something on the GOP-E that makes them toe the line. The more I think about it, though, I believe the GOP-E is doing exactly what they believe in.

Obama doesn’t need anything on them. They’re liberals and on his side.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 5:27:30 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

It is going to go on until we take our country back. We will be able to tell when all involved in this BS are in prison. That is if the libturds want to “play nice”. Otherwise there will be a great deal of blood shed. Their choice.


9 posted on 02/13/2014 5:29:03 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: xzins

The gestapo arm of the U.S.A. - United Socialists of America

HOORAY Ben! “See something, say something” ALERT!


10 posted on 02/13/2014 5:32:25 AM PST by PGalt
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To: xzins
Just as astonishing is the complicity of the corrupt MSM. Their act of not saying anything - nothing - and not speaking out against such overt fascist acts of this regime makes them fully complicit in this.

The MSM is the enemy.

11 posted on 02/13/2014 5:33:08 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Truth29

The GOP take a stand. Not a chance. A few will try and rally but for the most part the GOPe is Obama Lapdogs.
Amazing what the NSA programs can do. Listen in on a few phone calls, build files and let the blackmail begin.
It might be time for the people to do what the slugs in DC refuse.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 5:36:20 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: xzins
“The IRS has investigated me. They said, ‘I want to look at your real estate holdings.’ There was nothing there. ‘Well, let’s expand to an entire [year], everything.’ There was nothing there. ‘Let’s do another year.’ Finally, after a few months, they went away. But they’ve come after my family, they’ve come after my friends, they’ve come after associates,” he added.

Lavrenti Beria, the head of Joseph Stalin’s KGB, once quipped to his boss, “show me the man and I will find the crime.”
(ref: Alan Dershowitz on SpitzerGate: What Is This? Russia?)

13 posted on 02/13/2014 5:42:35 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: xzins

Big Prayers up For Dr. Ben.

He is “One Of Us”. Let us stand with him and support him in any way we can.

But ESPECIALLY with PRAYER!


14 posted on 02/13/2014 5:45:30 AM PST by left that other site
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To: xzins

Your on your own Ben...there are not enough in Congress, who gives a damn and those that do are categorized as trouble makers.

Sad situation, very sad, very, very sad, corruption is the accepted norm.


15 posted on 02/13/2014 5:45:34 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: xzins

Conversation at IRS HQ:

Intercom buzzs, IRS Employee:”Hey Boss, how’s that massage therapist working out?”

IRS Boss: “Great! Just one of the perks of working for the people. By the way, send over the Ted Cruz donor list. I need to make the audit list for next year.”

IRS Employee: “Sure thing, Boss. And send over that massage therapist when he is done. Auditing conservatives is stressful.”


16 posted on 02/13/2014 5:50:59 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: xzins

17 posted on 02/13/2014 5:54:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: xzins

...” Carson’s experience is “not that different from what many others are experiencing,” said GOP lawyer Cleta Mitchell. “It’s quite, quite troublesome and disturbing.”

“I have heard this same story over and over and over throughout the last year,” she said. “I cannot tell you how many donors to conservative organizations, people who have become active, have said ‘I was never audited until I started giving money to X conservative candidate or cause.’”...

The IRS came after us after my husband sent a donation to a local Tea Party. Thankfully, we have used a CPA since we retired years ago and he was furious over what they were trying to do and was very verbal in his communications to them concerning the matter. There was nothing there and no two people could have been as careful to pay the required taxes over the years as we have been. My belief is that they looked at our age and decided they could intimidate us because we are Senior Citizens. The amount of money they told us we owed to them was astronomical and confiscatory of our savings. The whole thing was frightening. We have wondered whether we should go public with what happened to us. Sounds like we have plenty of company. The Gestapo tactics are very sobering. I love Dr. Carson and am very grateful to him for using his visibility to speak out in that wonderfully logical and eloquent way. I saw him on O’Reilly last night and was aghast that O’Reilly seems to think Nazi Germany could not happen here. Stunning!


18 posted on 02/13/2014 6:01:45 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ping list members, FYI..!


19 posted on 02/13/2014 6:01:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: xzins
the IRS has really become pResident 0'B@$t@rd's
STAZI, his very willing Civil Service Stormtroopers,

d:-(they need only the snappy uniforms; they already give the salute/posture)
,it's only taken the puppets' (Boehmer/McConnell) tenure
to seal the destruction of the dream (USA) thru the
Washington Establishment, RWR said only 1 generation,
he was (an optimist) mistaken, it took only since 2009.

20 posted on 02/13/2014 6:03:31 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Shocker! Leftist group paid to review right applications (Urban Institute)
Goes back to the Clinton years!

Smoking gun in IRS political targeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3121555/posts

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/smoking-gun-in-irs-political-targeting/

IRS smoking gun awakens sleeping giant

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/irs-smoking-gun-awakens-sleeping-giant/

WND’s report revealed the IRS contracts with an avowedly “progressive” organization, the Urban Institute, supported by George Soros to process data filed by smaller tax-exempt groups.
The president of Urban Institute, also, is Sarah Rosen Wartell, who is the co-founder of the Center for American Progress. That widely is considered ground zero for the development of many of the Obama administration’s progressive policies.

snip
Cleta Mitchell, a top-flight Washington attorney, told WND, “If true, this is a violation of federal law.

snip

She continued, “Federal law strictly prohibits the disclosure of confidential taxpayer information to persons outside the IRS. It is a felony to disseminate the information.


21 posted on 02/13/2014 6:09:42 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

That’s all well and good, Cleta, but who is going to stop them? The “enemy” IS the government, all branches and regardless of party.


22 posted on 02/13/2014 6:18:52 AM PST by madison10
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To: xzins

Good. Keep it up IRS. Maybe it will finally get some traction for this targeting and abuse in the MSM because Ben Carson has a microphone, and a loud one, and best of all . . . he is NOT AFRAID to use it.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 6:21:16 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: Qwackertoo; don-o; MHGinTN

——Ben Carson has a microphone——

and he’s coming here next Tuesday. I’m going early to get a seat

Eastman Employee Center 7:00 February 25
Admission free


24 posted on 02/13/2014 6:28:09 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: xzins

Ben Carson should go on every talk show he can get to with this information


25 posted on 02/13/2014 6:29:48 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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Ben Carson should go on every talk show he can get to with this information

I agree..and he should do it often before he's Breitbarted.

26 posted on 02/13/2014 6:33:14 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: madison10

There is more in the article with input from many people. RICO is suggested (which many posters on FR have said).

“The IRS, by its actions, has shown itself to be a racketeer-influenced criminal organization. The nonprofits should band together, now, and mount a RICO action against it.

“Their lawyers will tell them they cannot possibly win. But they will win. And win big. The RICO statute, designed to deal with an earlier generation of Chicago gangsters, pays the successful plaintiffs three times their costs in fighting the action. Once the courts have held the IRS to be corrupt, it can and will be closed down,” he wrote.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/irs-smoking-gun-awakens-sleeping-giant/#QDIkhbUQeXEZtHdZ.99


27 posted on 02/13/2014 6:34:27 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: xzins
“Gestapo era,” Ben says...

“Stalinist,” Rush said yesterday as he bemoaning the inability to stop this...

“So is the Government in DC, no longer the US Government,” I thought.

What ‘line’ must be crossed to say...that...THAT... is not my government. And to say such a thing, is to ponder what country we are living in if THAT is not our government. Do we continue to owe any loyalty or taxes to such a foreign body?

We are citizens of the United States and the United States only exists if the Constitution is upheld by politicians of integrity and character. If they fail in their duties, as they are now, then the United States has been dissolved.

28 posted on 02/13/2014 6:34:34 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: jazzlite
The IRS came after us after my husband sent a donation to a local Tea Party. Thankfully, we have used a CPA since we retired years ago and he was furious over what they were trying to do and was very verbal in his communications to them concerning the matter. There was nothing there and no two people could have been as careful to pay the required taxes over the years as we have been. My belief is that they looked at our age and decided they could intimidate us because we are Senior Citizens. The amount of money they told us we owed to them was astronomical and confiscatory of our savings.

The same thing happened with us. We kept wondering why they were hassling us, and when I heard the first admission that the IRS had targeted conservatives, a light bulb finally went on. The whole thing had made no sense until then.

29 posted on 02/13/2014 6:35:48 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: EBH

or....... in my mind

If there is no law, there is no law


30 posted on 02/13/2014 6:36:38 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
the needle

Paging Henry Bowman!

31 posted on 02/13/2014 6:37:14 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: xzins

The current corrupt administration has used the fearsome power of the irs against its political enemies. This is a crime. Crime leads to impeachment.


32 posted on 02/13/2014 6:37:43 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: ScottinVA; xzins; Truth29

8:51 Minutes - NewsMax
Dr. Ben Carson: “We Live In A Gestapo Age”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKe-XKDyNBc

5 Minutes - O’Reilly
Dr Ben Carson Targeted By The IRS? - Think About Nazi Germany! - O’Reilly - Wake Up America!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1lHwtLRJo


33 posted on 02/13/2014 6:37:45 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: xzins
I’ve said before that they have something on the GOP-E that makes them toe the line. The more I think about it, though, I believe the GOP-E is doing exactly what they believe in.

Obama doesn’t need anything on them. They’re liberals and on his side.

McConnell and Boehner are keeping their mouths shut because they don't want to rock the cradle. After all, they hope for the GOPe to someday get a chance to grab the reins of power, and don't want a diminished Washington DC, because they can do a powerful centralized government better.

34 posted on 02/13/2014 6:38:54 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: xzins

There needs to be much, much more pushback than another Issa “hearing”...we have to start seeing perp walks, handcuffs and orange jumpsuits.


35 posted on 02/13/2014 6:39:48 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: bert

We’ll disagree there.

There is Law, but two different kinds.

We are citizens under the Constitution.

DC is operating under ??? socialism, fascism, a different set of laws.


36 posted on 02/13/2014 6:43:31 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: DCBryan1

WWHBD?

I would really like to know


37 posted on 02/13/2014 6:44:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: EBH

The president et al have degenerated into outlaws


38 posted on 02/13/2014 6:45:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

Outlaws? Enemies of the Constitution


39 posted on 02/13/2014 6:47:01 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Lakeshark

...”The same thing happened with us. We kept wondering why they were hassling us, and when I heard the first admission that the IRS had targeted conservatives, a light bulb finally went on. The whole thing had made no sense until then”...

My guess would be that there is an army of people like us out here. The emphasis has been persecution of conservative organizations, but what about the persecution of conservative individuals? What about those who post on Free Republic, Facebook or other social media? Are we/they targets, as well. Gestapo is the correct word to describe it. Dr. Carson believes people do not speak out because they are afraid of their government which is a very dangerous situation.


40 posted on 02/13/2014 6:48:00 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: EBH

Outlaw...... one who functions out side the law.

Outside the law is without our Constitution.

If there is no law protecting the people, there is no law protecting the tyrannical despots


41 posted on 02/13/2014 6:50:53 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Pietro

Until they have solid majorities. We need the Senate and as many GOPs as possible with as many of those being conservatives as possible.


42 posted on 02/13/2014 7:00:36 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: xzins

Ben needs to get these people’s names, and post em. There needs to be faces and names put to these treasonous employees!!!!


43 posted on 02/13/2014 7:03:58 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: xzins

Is Dr. Carson a resident of Maryland? He should publicly call out his senators and representatives, and move the heck out of Maryland.


44 posted on 02/13/2014 7:05:46 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: xzins
Until now... Dr. Carson has shied away from tying the IRS actions to his criticism of Obama, but now he says Americans live “in a Gestapo age” even though they may not realize it.

First they came for those who spoke out publicly, and I did not speak out-- Because I didn't speak out publicly.

Then they came for the Tea Party members , and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a member of the Tea Party.

Then they came for Republicans, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Republican.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Yes, liberals - you're on the list...when it's your turn you'll wish you had stood with us...

45 posted on 02/13/2014 7:11:09 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: xzins

Could you imagine the MSM if Obama was a white Republican and his last name was Nixon?


46 posted on 02/13/2014 7:16:08 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Obadiah; tbpiper; jazzlite
The MSM needs to understand - - at some point thugs in the Democrat party will come after them:

First they came for those who spoke out publicly like Ben Carson - his family and friends, and I did not speak out-- Because I wasn't a high profile person.

Then they came for Tea Party members , and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a member of the Tea Party.

Then they came for Republicans, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Republican.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Yes, liberals - you're on the list...when it's your turn you'll wish you had stood with us... Yep, tat means YOU New York Times, Washington Post and LA Times boys... you're on the lists.

47 posted on 02/13/2014 7:19:26 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: xzins; Travis McGee; sickoflibs; Liz; MrB; Mr. K
Here's the secret.

The IRS WANTS this story spread wide and far.

They don't have enough agents to intimidate all of us so they hit on high profile people like Ben Carson as a way to keep the rest of us in line.

A former IRS agent told me this years ago - they LIKE the stories that make them look ‘thuggy’. Of course that was back in the day when the effort was merely to increase collection... Today it's to bully citizens who are NOT liberal. Today it's a boot grinding into the face of a human.

48 posted on 02/13/2014 7:32:33 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: jazzlite

When the government fears the people, we have liberty
When the people fear the government, we have tyranny.


49 posted on 02/13/2014 7:38:48 AM PST by matchgirl (An Ambassador is dead and Al Qaeda is alive.)
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To: xzins

But let’s criticize Putin. How is Obama any better???


50 posted on 02/13/2014 7:44:16 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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