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Cruz Debt Ceiling Move Puts Republicans, Red-State Democrats On the Spot
National Review ^ | FEBRUARY 12, 2014 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 02/13/2014 7:13:57 AM PST by Qbert

Texas firebrand spews out lukewarm senators in both parties

The debt ceiling fight in Congress has revived internal GOP tensions still lingering in the wake of last year’s government shutdown.  

After the House of Representatives passed a “clean” debt-limit increase without any spending cuts attached, Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas), whose 21-hour Obamacare filibuster preceded the government shutdown, announced that he would block any effort to pass the measure by simple majority vote in the Senate.

“If you ask anybody outside of Washington whether we should keep increasing the debt ceiling without fixing the underlying problem of out-of-control spending, the answer is ‘of course not,’” Cruz said in a statement. “If Republicans stand together we can demand meaningful spending restraint to help pull our nation back from the fiscal and economic cliff.”  

Cruz’s Republican opponents saw the move as opportunism.

“Republicans don’t have any leverage after the shutdown, but this enables Cruz to take the spotlight again,” says a GOP aide. “It’s unfortunate.”

Some critics complain that Cruz’s gambit would force at least five Republican Senators to support a clean debt-limit increase – one that is going to pass anyway – which would open them up to attacks from Cruz’s political allies on the right. Cruz’s hardline stance precipitating the shutdown was, ironically enough, directly responsible for destroying GOP leverage on the debt limit, they argue.

Cruz aide Amanda Carpenter pushed back strongly against criticism of the Senator’s move. In a tweet early Wednesday, Carpenter described the GOP leadership’s debt-limit strategy: “Let Democrats walk all over them and thank them for the back massage.” Another conservative aide tells National Review Online: “It’s shocking to suggest that Republicans should not even attempt to offer the American people an alternative to putting the country deeper and deeper into debt.”

The conservative aide complained that GOP leadership was “abdicating” the minority’s right to offer amendments to the bill in order to speed its passage, and argued that a simple majority threshold would allow four red state Democrats such as Kay Hagan (N.C.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mary Landrieu (La.), and Mark Begich (Alaska) to cast votes against increasing the debt limit. “This is bad policy and absolutely terrible politics,” the aide says. “Conservatives are just dumbfounded at this ridiculous and unnecessary ploy.”

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) has scheduled a pair of votes this afternoon on the debt-limit measure. One is a motion to invoke “cloture” and end debate on the bill – at a 60-vote threshold – and the other is on final passage by simple majority. Democrats seem confident they’ll get the GOP votes they need, but Republicans seem to be struggling to produce them. “There’s not a single Republican who wants to cast that vote,” the GOP aide says.

So far, only Senator Mark Kirk (R, Ill.) has said he’ll back the measure.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; debtceiling; mcconnell; tedcruz
We all know how the vote eventually turned out, of course- but the article just goes to show the lengths that the GOP leadership will go to in order to protect the floundering Mitch McConnell, even if it means providing cover for vulnerable Dems in Red States next November...
1 posted on 02/13/2014 7:13:57 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
Cruz’s gambit would force at least five Republican Senators

Seems like grown up boys wouldn't be forced into anything. They are just angry that they got exposed for being what they really are.

/johnny

2 posted on 02/13/2014 7:17:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Qbert

the glass debt ceiling needs to be replaced by reinforced concrete


3 posted on 02/13/2014 7:17:48 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Qbert

What debt ceiling?

I’ve not seen any number of a ceiling. The only # I’ve seen so far is that this is to cover 13 months till the next “reset” of the ceiling.

Until otherwise, I’m reading this as an unlimited blank check for over a year... the national debt can rise to any amount... $18 Trillion? $118 Trillion? Either one is “legal”.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 7:18:04 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Qbert

Cruz’s critics are anonymous, I notice. Bleepin’ cowards.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 7:18:28 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Qbert
a “clean” debt-limit increase . . . a “clean” resolution . . .

Does anyone ever recall such terminology being used the last time there was a GOP president in the white house?

6 posted on 02/13/2014 7:18:33 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Qbert

Any combination of eight of these that either voted for or didn’t vote
would have kept the colture vote from passing.

Barrasso (R-WY)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Flake (R-AZ)
Hatch (R-UT)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kirk (R-IL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)

Not voting:
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)


7 posted on 02/13/2014 7:20:15 AM PST by deport
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To: skeeter

all except Cornball....we know who he is, and where he is....


8 posted on 02/13/2014 7:20:58 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Qbert
Regarding the Cruz filibuster and government shutdown, hasn't Obama himself vindicated Cruz by his dictatorial delay mandates for his partisan namesake legislation, Obamacare.

Our side never emphasizes that Obamacare is 100% Democrat Owned, that not one Republican voted for it.

9 posted on 02/13/2014 7:23:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: C210N
What debt ceiling?

Indeed.


10 posted on 02/13/2014 7:23:56 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Qbert

It is what it is...Cruz Control!

Cruz 2016!


11 posted on 02/13/2014 7:24:16 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Qbert
“If you ask anybody outside of Washington..."

There are people out there?

12 posted on 02/13/2014 7:27:40 AM PST by polymuser
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To: C210N

The saying ,”spending money like a drunken sailor” will be replaced with , “spending money like an OBAMA’ , a sailor may spend hundreds of dollars when Obama will spend trillions


13 posted on 02/13/2014 7:28:16 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Qbert

Cockroaches don’t like the person who turns on the light.


14 posted on 02/13/2014 7:28:24 AM PST by almcbean
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To: skeeter

"Cruz’s critics are anonymous, I notice. Bleepin’ cowards. "

Yep. And they're stilling whining about the "shutdown". Honestly, I've been scanning the headlines of leftist blogs and newspapers for months now, and I have yet to see a single leftist refer to the shutdown- they stopped mentioning it after Obamacare started imploding. The only people who still complain about it are the crony-capitalist Chamber of Amnesty types.

15 posted on 02/13/2014 7:28:35 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: molson209

oops , it would be , “spending money like a HIGH OBAMA”


16 posted on 02/13/2014 7:29:39 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: molson209

With the only difference being that drunken sailors spend their own money.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 7:33:41 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Qbert
Those who voted for cloture from the GOP-e side:

•John Barrasso (R-WY
•Susan Collins (R-ME))
•Bob Corker (R-TN)
•John Cornyn (R-TX)
•Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
•Mike Johanns (R-NE)
•Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
•Mark Kirk (R-IL)
•John McCain (R-AZ)
•Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
•Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
•John Thune (R-SD)

18 posted on 02/13/2014 7:37:10 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Qbert
“Republicans don’t have any leverage after the shutdown, but this enables Cruz to take the spotlight again,” says a GOP aide. “It’s unfortunate.”

Huh?

Republicans continue to believe they got a beat-down during the government shutdown. Federal workers got a paid vacation and Obama proved what an ass he is by shutting down the National Mall, etc. Meanwhile, Obama himself delays the implementation of obamacare, just like what republicans wanted. Cruz was right then and now as well.

19 posted on 02/13/2014 7:37:25 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TexasCajun
Our side never emphasizes that Obamacare is 100% Democrat Owned, that not one Republican voted for it.

'Our side' is absurdly pathetic at messaging. Always on defensive. Always working off the Democrat's template. A perfect recent example is Boehner's appearance on Leno. When asked about the Tea Party, he took a conciliatory tone...his goal was not to upset the Tea Party. He spoke of 'they have good intentions to limit government'. Instead of taking the opportunity in front of a large audience to dispel myths and position his party for growth, he played small ball. He should have challenged the position. He should say, the Tea Party movement is just an active group representing a much larger belief that government is too big, spending too high, and (all positions held by well over a majority of the country). We arrived in office because the country wanted to put a stop to the crazy agenda of Obama's first 2 years.'

That pulls people in to our party, and positions Obama and the Democrats as out of step. Instead, as the consummate DC insider, he's not concerned about growing the party. He's concerned about maintaining control for himself and the existing ruling class. Our party is irreconcilably broken because they are poor leaders and pathetic communicators.

20 posted on 02/13/2014 7:38:18 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Qbert

It is becoming quite apparent that Cruz doesn’t want to talk about changing Washington. He wants to change Washington.


21 posted on 02/13/2014 7:39:28 AM PST by nitzy
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To: Qbert

As usual Cruz does the right thing.


22 posted on 02/13/2014 7:40:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Qbert

just goes to show the lengths that the GOP leadership will go to in order to protect the floundering Mitch McConnell

***********
Its always about THEM, not us.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 7:41:06 AM PST by Starboard
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To: TexasCajun

"Regarding the Cruz filibuster and government shutdown, hasn't Obama himself vindicated Cruz by his dictatorial delay mandates for his partisan namesake legislation, Obamacare."

Exactly. But unfortunately, it is no longer the goal of the GOP leadership to repeal Obamacare- the money bags that now dictate GOP policy have declared that the stated intention is to "pragmatically fix" Obamacare...

24 posted on 02/13/2014 7:43:20 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

But in the end the RINOs DIDN’T “protect the floundering Mitch McConnell”!

They forced him to vote for cloture when Cruz interrupted the Kabuki show.

Susan Collins and friends are clearing the way for the first female Senate Majority Leader next year IMO.


25 posted on 02/13/2014 7:44:20 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Bushbacker1

So Cornyn voted with the dims.
All the while he is running ads in Texas claiming that he stands up to Obama everyday and he is one of us.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 7:45:21 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Qbert

WSJ OpEd came out against Cruz today, but I’m glad he forced the issue. Make them own it.

I watched ‘Network’ the movie again last night. It’s worth watching again. You want to talk prophesy. I think it was made in the 70’s, and it is so in your face about what Hollywood is all about.

For the folks that work in entertainment, it had to be liberating to make that film, because in perpetuity they can point to it and say, “Look, we came out and told you with complete candor what we are about and you are still tuning in.”

The other striking aspect to it is the academic level of the vocabulary. Words like ‘oraculation’ are thrown around like you ought to know what they mean.

Refreshing, actually. The dialogue in the average film or movie is somewhere around the 5th grade level - today’s 5th grade level.


27 posted on 02/13/2014 7:47:48 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Georgia Girl 2

When I switched on the television this morning, it was either Bloomberg or CNBC (I think it was CNBC) which was interviewing a “Republican” about the vote.

The interviewee was spinning like a top. They actually panned to a photo of Cruz.

I switched the channel. Scr_w the GOP. Pardon my language, but to heck with them.

Stand firm Cruz. You are on the right side, and our country is imploding.

Cruz / Palin 2016


28 posted on 02/13/2014 7:48:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: smokingfrog
Republicans continue to believe they got a beat-down during the government shutdown.

The Republicans were not hurt by the shutdown and they know it. The GOP Establishment just likes to use it as an excuse for why they refuse to resist Obama and the Globalist Agenda.

29 posted on 02/13/2014 7:48:59 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: deport
(Roll Call Votes)

(1 Michigan Republican voted for 'clean' debt ceiling bill)

(Track your Senators' and Representative's votes by e-mail)

(Voting in our state)

30 posted on 02/13/2014 8:03:17 AM PST by yoe
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To: mrsmith
Susan Collins and friends are clearing the way for the first female Senate Majority Leader next year IMO.

Who might that be?

31 posted on 02/13/2014 8:04:44 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Qbert
Cruz understands both what is moral, and what in the long-run is sound economics. The opportunists are the gutless wonders in the Republican Party, who allow themselves to be led around on a tight leash, to please a very, very short-sighted business class, who simply do not understand both the moral & economic consequences of not standing up to Left.

In the long-run, the idea that a short-term Government shut-down must be avoided at any cost, is absolutely absurd! Contrast the class of Business pundits, who wrung their hands at the idea of Cruz being able to block the debt limit extension, with the leading figures in American business in 1776, such as John Hancock, or the great Southern Planters, who not only accepted a temporary, really severe interruption of business, but the very real threat of being personally hanged, for the clear eventual benefit of their posterity.

We need to stop being on the defensive in these discussions. We need to take the fight to the compulsion driven neurotics who are betraying the American heritage, at every opportunity.

Sort out your priorities and standup to the hand-wringers, whose moral cowardice is destroying our children's future.

William Flax

32 posted on 02/13/2014 8:40:26 AM PST by Ohioan
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