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Arizona bill calls for restrictions on public school, bathrooms, roads for illegal immigrants
abc15.com ^ | 02/06/2014 | : Sara Goldenberg

Posted on 02/13/2014 2:15:37 PM PST by moonshinner_09

PHOENIX - A new state bill would make it against the law for an illegal immigrant to use public resources

(Excerpt) Read more at abc15.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; az; illegals; immagrtion
Bill unlikely to pass but it will keep illegals and supporters that much more annoyed..
1 posted on 02/13/2014 2:15:37 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

It is good publicity and gets people on record.


2 posted on 02/13/2014 2:22:50 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: moonshinner_09

By rights, it’s exactly what should be done.

Illegal immigrants deserve no benefits whatsoever derived from our tax dollars.

Citizens pay for existing services to citizens, not to non-citizens.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 2:33:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (#'t even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Illegal aliens are criminals. They “deserve” to have their assets seized, to be arrested, to be jailed and to be deported.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 2:46:31 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Gets my vote. They do not belong here, and their ill gotten gains were come by through deceit and corruption.

I’m of a mind to sign on to business forfeiture too, after a couple of infractions on illegal hiring.

Provide instant check, and start enforcing the rules on the books.

Get a new accurate interpretation of the 14th Amendment, and quit considering illegal immigrant children to be U. S. Citizens. That was never the intent of the 14th.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 2:50:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: hal ogen
Illegal aliens are criminals. They “deserve” to have their assets seized, to be arrested, to be jailed and to be deported.

Technically, only about half of illegal aliens are criminals.

Illegally entering the U.S. is a misdemeanor. Illegally entering the U.S. after you've been deported is a felony. Legally entering the U.S. on a student or tourist visa and not leaving when your visa expires is not a crime; it renders you subject to summary deportation, but not to any criminal penalty. Studies I have read say that about half of all illegal aliens in the U.S. are of the second type (visa overstays).

6 posted on 02/13/2014 3:09:00 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m of a mind to sign on to business forfeiture too, after a couple of infractions on illegal hiring.

There's another big step to be taken along these lines; the practice is rampant in areas like LA, Phoenix, Las Vegas. Isolate the businesses that cater to illegals - car sales and rentals, grocery stores, money lending and transfer storefront shops, job placement services, etc., and close them all down. Jail the owners if they are here legally and deport them if they aren't.

And seal the Friggin' border!

7 posted on 02/13/2014 3:21:38 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Illegally entering the U.S. is a misdemeanor.

Technically, that's a load of bovine excrement. A misdemeanor is still a crime, and they are still criminals. You can take that argument and stick it where the sun don't shine.

8 posted on 02/13/2014 3:23:36 PM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch.)
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To: HiJinx

Just about anything along these lines works for me.

It’s an illegal underground economy. People earn the money under the table then have other family members stand in line to get government services.


9 posted on 02/13/2014 3:23:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
1 st time is a misdemeanor.

2 nd time is a felony.

10 posted on 02/13/2014 3:35:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Bravo, Arizona. BRAVO! Obama and all his kind who cherish these foreign invaders can suck it.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 3:40:17 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: moonshinner_09

Let ‘em pee, f’r godsake.

The rest is fine.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 3:49:56 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: HiJinx
A misdemeanor is still a crime, and they are still criminals.

I said that. I also said that half of all illegal aliens didn't commit even a misdemeanor, because they didn't enter the U.S. illegally.

You can take that argument and stick it where the sun don't shine.

You're such a sweetheart.

13 posted on 02/13/2014 4:11:26 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
You're such a sweetheart.

I can be when I want to be.

Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) Section 222g Visa Overstays and INA Section 212(a)(9)(B) Aliens Unlawfully Present both discuss your scenario where an alien (non-immigrant) enters the U.S. legally but later loses that legal status.

It looks like your definition of violations of the INA under those sections are administrative in nature. Since the INA is a law passed by the Congress; I consider those violations to be crimes.

And there you have the reason for my earlier statements. Which, by the way, I still support. When you break a law, regardless of penalty, you have committed a crime. It really frosts my biscuits to have people come in here and try to downplay a serious problem by tossing out a strawman argument, know what I mean?

Anyway, thank you for your time and the opportunity for me to do a little more research on such an interestingly irrelevant comment.

14 posted on 02/14/2014 7:48:36 AM PST by HiJinx (I can see Mexico from my back porch.)
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