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Train Carrying Canadian Oil Derails, Leaks In Pennsylvania
Reuters via Rig Zone ^ | February 13, 2014 | Elizabeth Dilts & Robert Gibbons

Posted on 02/13/2014 2:26:42 PM PST by thackney

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To: catnipman

I give up, time to go solar, getting one of those solar furnaces installed in the AM


41 posted on 02/13/2014 6:55:36 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: thackney

Quick! Someone pass a law mandating more stringent safety standards and outlawing rail road wrecks! Hurry!


42 posted on 02/13/2014 6:57:32 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: thackney

Here come the anti-Keystone bunch! This just gives them fuel...to pardon the pun. :)


43 posted on 02/13/2014 7:09:11 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: thackney

Willie Weeps!


44 posted on 02/13/2014 8:36:48 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: stonehouse01

well, you could read the OP.
“The train, which originated in Chicago, was destined for an asphalt plant in Paulsboro, New Jersey, owned by NuStar, a NuStar spokeswoman said.”


45 posted on 02/14/2014 4:51:43 AM PST by Segovia
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To: thackney

Not really a pipeline fault this time though, you still have to get oil to a customer’s plant.

This oil came from IL headed to an asphalt maker, how else besides truck can it get to NJ? How many times has it been done in the decades before this crash, a few thousand possibly?

We ship oil all the time by rail tanker, long before Obama got into office and there have always been accidents like this, they’re just making the front page now that Keystone is so important.

(which is fine by me this time because it helps out a cause I’m all for, but many times the opposite is just as true)


46 posted on 02/14/2014 5:42:51 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: GreyFriar
And I’ve read that a couple of bh0’s big backers and are against the pipleline own a lot of railroad shares, thus profiting from moving the oil by train. thus their ‘environmental’ reasons are GREEN MONEY, not a green environmental.

Warren Buffet got this covered...

His holding company recently brought a company specializing in additives that improve the flow of oil in pipelines.

47 posted on 02/14/2014 5:57:13 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Milton Miteybad

“Somebody should invent a system of underground pipes that can transport this type of product efficiently and safely.”

Somebody should invent a system of personal liberty and private property.


48 posted on 02/14/2014 6:03:59 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Abathar

All true.


49 posted on 02/14/2014 6:32:30 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Abathar
We ship oil all the time by rail tanker, long before Obama got into office

Just one point. We are shipping a lot more oil now due to increases in domestic production combined with a lack of approved pipelines. So while the rate of accidents may not change, the number of accidents is quite likely to be higher.

North Dakota oil rail shipments expected to spike
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3101356/posts

Study says pipeline resistance raises oil-transport risks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3081952/posts

U.S. crude oil increasingly moves by barge, truck and rail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3041737/posts

50 posted on 02/14/2014 6:37:17 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Completely agree with that, they have to mathematically.

I was just pointing out that in this particular case that tanker would have been on those tracks no matter how many pipelines we put in the ground.

How the oil gets to the refinery or from there to a smaller regional point is what most people were commenting on it seems. Rail is almost always the safest and most economical way for larger (but still small) end user shipments like this.


51 posted on 02/14/2014 7:25:07 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Here is what Conservatives need to do. Form a conservation group like the Sierra Club and go after everything the libs put in place that is killing people and wildlife.

Solar field killing birds? 100 million lawsuit. Train with fuel derails? 100 million lawsuit. Apply for government grants. Do everything the Sierra Club does.

Then when the government fights back, use the Sierra Club as an example and get their funding pulled.

The way to beat the left is to bankrupt them.


52 posted on 02/14/2014 8:52:45 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: thackney

Rail transport is not the way to go.


54 posted on 02/14/2014 10:54:01 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: thackney
BUILD THE DARN THING ( Keystone Pipeline ) ALREADY !

How many people need to die and rivers polluted before they will act on building it ?
55 posted on 02/14/2014 11:19:23 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: thackney

I support USA energy self sufficiency for economic and security.

If foreign corporations and countries are taking land (farm or otherwise) to bring energy to the USA, or putting Americans at risk, that low cost energy needs to stay in the USA, and not be shipped to China by global corporations looking for more profits.


56 posted on 02/16/2014 7:24:32 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone

This was imported from Canada. The US doesn’t come close to supplying enough oil to meet our domestic demands.


57 posted on 02/16/2014 8:12:37 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Another pipeline disaster averted!

Thanks Obama!

</sarcasm>

58 posted on 02/16/2014 10:36:57 AM PST by Redcloak (Was that the primary buffer panel?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Note the media always use gallons to pump the numbers. The standard crude oil measure is the stock tank barrel (42 gallons). The total spilled is under 100 barrels. Just not a big enough number to hype, so they used 3000-4000 gallons.


59 posted on 02/16/2014 6:24:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: thackney

They tell us that use of Canadian oil is part of the plan for US energy self sufficiency, and the economic advantages of lower energy prices. If that’s the case I can support eminent domain as being in the national interest. However if the plan is to use the USA and eminent domain so foreign corporations with ties to politicians, can use the USA as a conduit to China, then I strongly oppose seeing Americans having their land taken and devalued.

Americans have been undercut by lying politicians, corporatists and bankers with “ free trade” enough that I do not trust them. Some will do anything to sell out the USA, while patriots willingly give up their lives. I don’t trust the bxstards.


60 posted on 02/16/2014 8:27:37 PM PST by apoliticalone
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