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81% of people receiving public housing benefits vote Democratic – and that’s just the tip
rare ^ | 2/13/14 | Matt Palumbo, Rare Contributor

Posted on 02/13/2014 10:11:33 PM PST by Nachum

Perhaps I spend too much time lurking around left-leaning blogs, but there are many myths taken as fact without any additional analysis.

One of the most prominent? The notion that red states take the most aid from the government.

Mitt Romney sparked outrage during the 2012 election for his comments about the “47 percent” of Americans who are dependent on government. Romney was actually quoting the percentage of Americans who pay no federal income tax, not the percentage of people who receive government aid, which is a slightly larger 49 percent.

In an article published before Romney’s gaffe, liberal economist Paul Krugman blogged that “Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as ‘most conservative’ received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.”

Romney’s comments only seemed to give the left more reason to summon up statistics like these to “prove” who the real moochers are.

But as solid as the statistics Krugman provided might seem, we’re left with one glaring problem: States aren’t people. Could it be possible that liberals within conservative states are the ones taking the welfare dollars?

A survey by the Maxwell Poll on the political affiliation of those receiving government aid showed this to be the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at rare.us ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benefits; democratic; handout; vote
81% of people receiving public housing benefits vote Democratic – and that’s just the tip of the handout iceberg
1 posted on 02/13/2014 10:11:34 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I am shocked!


2 posted on 02/13/2014 10:12:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

Okay, but that means 19% don’t. Too often the GOP makes the mistake of thinking that anyone on government assistance is a lost cause, ala Romney. They aren’t.

People want jobs, and if the GOP wants to win, they need to come up with a serious plan to help restore American industry.

Putting up candidates with no more than a regurgitation of Obama’s vague hope and change message is not going to win.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 10:18:28 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Nachum

Shocking!


4 posted on 02/13/2014 10:24:21 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law and does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: DannyTN

Amen.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 10:24:54 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law and does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Nachum

Not until they pass a law that people, who live on the public dole, will not be allowed to vote can this situation be corrected.

America will vote democrat from now on and it will hit the iceberg soon.

Get ready to go to the lifeboats.


6 posted on 02/13/2014 10:34:49 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

There are lifeboats????


7 posted on 02/13/2014 10:44:36 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 353FMG
Not until they pass a law that people, who live on the public dole, will not be allowed to vote can this situation be corrected.

Be careful what you wish for. If they continue their policies, we'll all be unemployed and on the government dole. And then without the right to vote, we'd have no means of redress.

8 posted on 02/13/2014 10:53:06 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Nachum

The problem is, 40 percent of the 81 percent vote twice!


9 posted on 02/13/2014 11:05:51 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: DannyTN
Another neglected strategy is pointing out the well-established inefficiency and incompetence of those institutions established to deliver these services.

I think some Republican politicians are staggeringly unfamiliar with how dealing with these bureaucrats makes waiting in line at the Postal Service seem like Club Med.

10 posted on 02/13/2014 11:48:01 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Nachum

Take Gary, Hammond, East Chicago, and Center Township Indianapolis out of Indiana’s statistics, then recalculate those percentages.

Do the same for every other state, and you’ll get quite a different picture.

OH WAIT...
Is that rassiss???


11 posted on 02/14/2014 12:02:56 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: DannyTN
Too often the GOP makes the mistake of thinking that anyone on government assistance is a lost cause,

Lots of people around here make the same mistake about union members. Before I retired, I was a union member for 30 plus years and I have never voted for a democrat in my life, furthermore, I've known plenty of union members who were conservative and voted that way.

12 posted on 02/14/2014 3:50:36 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. F.D.R.)
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To: Nachum

I suspected the blue residents of red states were the ones responsible for making red states look like the biggest gov. dependents. Any state with a large population of black and Hispanic residents probably receives a lot of fed money going to those ethnicities. Maybe the states that have Appalachia running through them have the largest populations of whites receiving gov. aid.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 3:51:18 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Nachum
I didn't need.a poll to tell me this. It's common sense. Conservatism isn't a political party, it's a set of principals.
14 posted on 02/14/2014 4:02:45 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Graybeard58

In your case i can attest to the fact that older generations of union workers were not voting in one lib block. while never in a union myself i had many older relatives in them and all conservative, many vets. That’s shifted a whole bunch over the years. The key to the union vote is to simply change, as has been happening, rules so that workers don’t pay into one automatically. Its got to be free choice. Certainly (and some fight me on this here)there was a need for unions 80-100 years ago. There are plenty of rules protecting workers today. Their time has passed except as a fund raising arm of the dem party.


15 posted on 02/14/2014 4:02:52 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Nachum

Thank the Federal Reserve. Debt monetization and state-control if interest rates together are the foundation of the Progressive state


16 posted on 02/14/2014 4:43:12 AM PST by PGR88
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Yes there are. But Obama is drilling holes in them as we type.


17 posted on 02/14/2014 4:59:12 AM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Immigration reform will fix this, the low information voters will be encouraged to become completely dependent because the tax base of these illegal workers will give them enough to support the lazy as##es who dont want to


18 posted on 02/14/2014 5:30:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
There are lifeboats????

For liberals only, they're called riot and looting.

19 posted on 02/14/2014 5:39:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: driftless2

“Maybe the states that have Appalachia running through them have the largest populations of whites receiving gov. aid.”

In the past few decades, whites have started the same nonsense as urban minorities (breeding “golden ticket” bastards for money, supplementing that with disability fraud, etc.). Welfare reform in the 90s was to deal with the rising population (outside of the welfare reservations) that had begun playing the game. I don’t know which states have more “takers” anymore (as that population has been dispersed), but high-cost states (east & west coasts, upper midwest) contribute a lot to the tax till due to the inflated salaries.


20 posted on 02/14/2014 7:42:21 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Nachum; All
With the exception of the federal government entities indicated in the Constitution's Clauses 16 & 17 of Section 8 of Article I, such entities under the exclusive legislative control of Congress, just as with vote-winning federal public healhcare, the states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for vote-winning public housing. This is evidenced by Justice John Marshall's official clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes, Congress prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state powers issues, essentially any issue which Congress cannot justify under Section 8.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Note that if Congress was not stealing state revenues in the form of constitutionally indefensible federal taxes that the states could probably afford to manage their own public housing programs. That's why patriots need to elect lawmakers to their state legislatures who understand the federal government's constitutionally limited powers and will fight fed usurpation of state powers.

As a side note concerning state lawmakers fighting fed usurpation of state powers, a lot of constitutionally indefensible federal spending programs were undoubtedly established as a consequence of state lawmakers foolishly giving up the voices of the state legislatures in Congress by ratifying the ill-conceived 17th amendment.

But it remains that the main reason that corrupt Congress is getting away with establishing constitutionally indefensible federal spending programs is because parents, for many generations, have not been making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers in the way that the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood. And low-information voters make it easier for the corrupt federal government to usurp state powers.

Finally, should the states ever decide that Congress could run a national housing program better than the individual states can (ahem), then the states can always amend the Constitution to grant Congress the specific power to establish such a program.

21 posted on 02/14/2014 10:04:23 AM PST by Amendment10
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