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Russia may totally ban GMO products
Fresh Plaza ^ | Feb 13, 2014

Posted on 02/14/2014 11:40:46 AM PST by Altenkrug

Russian parliamentarians will submit to the State Duma a bill, which severely restricts imports of genetically modified agricultural products, and completely bans their domestic production, RT reports.

This bill is an amendment to the existing law “On Safety and Quality of Alimentary Products”, which sets norms for the maximum content of transgenic and genetically modified components in food. The powers to establish that norm, go to the government and products with excessive content of GMO components should be banned for turnover and imports.

Evgeny Fyodorov, the author of the bill and a member of the United Russia party, says that it does not suppose a total ban on imports of genetically modified products, but imposes government control on it.

The head of Russia’s Organic Farming Union, Yakov Lyubovedsky, believes that the passing of the bill would show if the Duma can defend the interests of population. He also added that GMO was an experiment on humanity itself and that the industry could do very well without genetically-enhanced plants and animals.

The bill will be submitted to the State Duma in two weeks’ time and its authors claim its chances of passing are very high.

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1 posted on 02/14/2014 11:40:46 AM PST by Altenkrug
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To: Altenkrug

Looks like they’ll be force-feeding this crap to us, cause nobody else on the planet is going to take it anymore.


2 posted on 02/14/2014 11:45:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Altenkrug; All

What percentage of USA-grown produce is GMO?


3 posted on 02/14/2014 11:49:12 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Buckeye McFrog

GMOs have probably saved more life than anything except perhaps DDT.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 11:49:42 AM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: lonestar67

“SAVED more life??? Please explain.


5 posted on 02/14/2014 11:56:12 AM PST by codder too
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To: lonestar67

Amen! GMO is AWESOME!


6 posted on 02/14/2014 11:58:20 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Amendment10

What percentage of USA-grown produce is GMO? >>>>>>

GMO means GMO grains and beans. At least not yet.... no GMO fruits and vegetables.

At this point I think a large amount of the corn (grain) is GMO. Wheat too. Soybeans


7 posted on 02/14/2014 12:01:57 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: codder too

Allow me to explain:

By keeping millions of people from starving.


8 posted on 02/14/2014 12:04:30 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: dennisw

And sugarbeets and some papaya and yellow squash.

So far.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 12:04:47 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: lonestar67

I wish we would ban GMO products.
I only recently even heard of these Frankenfoods.
The first one that seriously affected me was the tomato.
I could not eat any tomato products without getting sick for several days. My doctor suggested trying a store that specializes in non-GMO foods. I did and found that I can eat nature designed tomatoes. The stuff that is designed to resist white fly larva and other critters will also make me sick.


10 posted on 02/14/2014 12:08:06 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: dennisw

We’re at a point where it has become difficult to find corn that is NOT GMO.


11 posted on 02/14/2014 12:10:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Altenkrug

Russia is looking better and better, might just be time to start learning Russian.


12 posted on 02/14/2014 12:11:30 PM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine
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To: Codeflier

Saved them from starving but condemn them to a shortened life filled with GMO induced illnesses. Seems like one step forward and one step back.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 12:19:04 PM PST by codder too
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To: codder too

A half a million children that become irreversibly blind due to malnutrition could have been had that spared fate if GMO golden rice were available.

How many people have problems like this from GMO?


14 posted on 02/14/2014 12:25:45 PM PST by MNDude
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To: codder too

being able to raise 200 bu/acre of corn during a dought doesn’t happen all by nature itself.


15 posted on 02/14/2014 12:26:57 PM PST by digger48
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To: MNDude

In large parts of the world where malnutrition is an issue, their governments have the choice of buying food or guns and they more than often buy guns. GMO is not going to help these cases.


16 posted on 02/14/2014 12:28:05 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: MNDude; codder too
A half a million children that become irreversibly blind due to malnutrition could have been had that spared fate if GMO golden rice were available.

Not to mention the million or so children who die every year because their vitamin A deficiency compromised immune systems can't protect them from disease. Most of these children are under five years of age. Golden rice would eliminate most of this death and suffering, but idiots like Greenpeace are making sure that doesn't happen. Yeah, save the whales. Screw the human children. Why any conservatives would get into bed with the likes of Greenpeace is a mystery.

17 posted on 02/14/2014 1:22:15 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Altenkrug

The Gallant Men of Oldsmobile?


18 posted on 02/14/2014 1:24:47 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Altenkrug
Russian parliamentarians will submit to the State Duma a bill, which severely restricts imports of genetically modified agricultural products, and completely bans their domestic production, RT reports.

All they need to do is wash them and water them with the stuff coming out of the Sochi water taps and they won't have to worry about GMO products anymore.

19 posted on 02/14/2014 1:30:01 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DonaldC
GMO is not going to help these cases.

Nonsense. Golden rice could easily be introduced into countries like India, Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines. Rice is a staple of their diet, especially in the rural areas. Rice doesn't offer Vitamin A. GMO rice would make Vitamin A to these people, and the death and blindness would end.

Government isn't the problem in this case. Luddites who don't know their butts from a hole in the ground are. I refuse to support Greenpeace, or any organization that denies children the opportunity of life. Greenpeace is a bunch of depraved elitists, which is typical of groups that support totalitarian ideology.

20 posted on 02/14/2014 1:33:02 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

GMO concerns are such first world problems.


21 posted on 02/14/2014 1:35:14 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Proud2BeRight

General Moly, Inc.
NYSEMKT: GMO - Feb 14 4:06 PM ET
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22 posted on 02/14/2014 1:36:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Glenn Miller Orchestra.


23 posted on 02/14/2014 1:37:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Altenkrug

From the country that brought us Lysenko.


24 posted on 02/14/2014 1:38:17 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MNDude
Isn't that the truth? To some, Norman Borlaug is evil because he used genetic engineering to save a billion people, mostly children, from starvation.

The same people probably still believe Paul Ehlich's predictions. Idiots on parade, every last one of them.

25 posted on 02/14/2014 1:47:55 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Codeflier

Keep them from starving? I’d rather starve then die of who knows what illness
mainly cancer.


26 posted on 02/14/2014 3:34:42 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Altenkrug
Those who preferred to get their Vitamin A from GMO golden rice instead of carrots also expressed desires for vacations to Venus.


27 posted on 02/14/2014 3:41:05 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mase
So if GMO crops are so great, you would have no problem with foods containing them being labeled as such? I mean the people will then have a choice of GMO super crops and those awful regular varieties and of course will naturally flock to these super foods, yes?
28 posted on 02/14/2014 5:52:58 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad

labeled as such?


Another one of those I WANT A LABEL people. What you want is already available and certified by the government. It is called organic.


29 posted on 02/14/2014 6:16:27 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: BuffaloJack

I wish we would ban GMO products.


Some of us don’t have the same problems you do. You have a solution for you. is it ok for us to eat GMO?


30 posted on 02/14/2014 6:18:20 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: codder too

GMO saved about 1 billion people.

Opposition to GMO is part of the anti-human movement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/borlaug-saved-millions-hunger-dies/story?id=8595855


31 posted on 02/14/2014 6:22:01 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: nomad
So if GMO crops are so great, you would have no problem with foods containing them being labeled as such?

Name a food that hasn't been genetically modified over time?

Everything you eat has been subjected to genetic modification so labeling it as such doesn't make much sense.

32 posted on 02/14/2014 6:30:32 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I’d rather starve then die of who knows what illness

Careful, your stupidity may be fatal.

33 posted on 02/14/2014 6:58:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

GO TO HELL!


34 posted on 02/14/2014 7:24:58 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: lonestar67

You are an idiot. GMO’s kill but it is a slow kill.


35 posted on 02/14/2014 7:31:03 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle
Please explain why GMOs are a “slow kill”.
Try to use science, not your feelings.
36 posted on 02/14/2014 7:54:12 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Yes, imaginary cancer is much worse than very real starvation. Clown.


37 posted on 02/14/2014 8:07:10 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
...why GMOs are a “slow kill”

You know "slow kill"......like dying at age 92 from cancer, or heart disease, or a stroke, rather than their preferred method of dying: Starving to death before age five.

Some people just prefer the latter because it saves them from having to eat GMO food all those years. Personally, I prefer to die from old age, but that's just me.

38 posted on 02/14/2014 8:29:58 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
You avoid the question: If they`re such super foods and so obviously superior, then you have no objection to their being labeled as to their GMO, emphasis on GMO (trans-genetic), content and letting “We the people” decide how wonderful they really are. You`ve placed your personal faith in these super foods, so now put these super foods to the test.

Yes, No, Maybe so? We`re waiting...

39 posted on 02/15/2014 3:58:48 AM PST by nomad
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Well what independent, peer reviewed research data is there on: The effects of bacillus thuringiensis genetics on our foods and subsequently our physiology?

The effects of Glyphosate or Roundup herbicide on our physiology? How much Roundup is now getting into our food chain thru the use of these Roundup ready crops?

Are these trans-genetic modifications crossing over into the wild flora and if so what effects will that have on the biota?

There are many questions that need to be answered by independent, peer reviewed research.

But perhaps the greatest question of all can be answered by GMO`s supporters: We won`t you guys support the labeling of food as to it`s GMO content?

If these are really such super foods and so wonderful for us then put your money where your mouths are and simply label them! Let the consumer decide for themselves.

Or do you not believe in allowing the individual a choice? I can only assume you do believe in the concept of individual rights and responsibilities as you are a member of a CONSERVATIVE forum, yes?

Well then, do we, or do we not have the individual right to decide what we will and will not eat? Or would you also force a vegan to eat meat or a Kosher Jew to eat pork?

If not, then do you support the labeling of GMO content and letting "We the people" decide for ourselves?

Seems like whether someone has the right to choose their foods is the more important question to answer here and labeling would solve that issue quite definitively, but I tend come down on the side of individual freedom, what about you?

40 posted on 02/15/2014 4:43:18 AM PST by nomad
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To: Toddsterpatriot

By the way, your personal page says you are a “freemarketeer” well labeling would put your GMOs to the ultimate free market test, wouldn`t it?


41 posted on 02/15/2014 4:50:24 AM PST by nomad
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To: nomad
There are many questions that need to be answered by independent, peer reviewed research.

Excellent idea. Let me know when you find an authentic problem with GMOs.

Let the consumer decide for themselves.

If GMOs get your panties in a bunch, feel free to overpay for "organic" alternatives.

42 posted on 02/15/2014 6:00:13 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: nomad
By the way, your personal page says you are a “freemarketeer” well labeling would put your GMOs to the ultimate free market test

How does a GMO labeling regulation reduce government interference in our markets?

43 posted on 02/15/2014 6:03:37 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Do your own reading. I not here to educate you or debate you. I could not care less what you think.


44 posted on 02/15/2014 7:19:31 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle

Starvation kills pretty fast.

Are you sure I am an idiot?

The evidence for GMOs saving lives is pretty clear.

Again, if you personally don’t want to eat GMOs that is your business but I definitely don’t want you to stop me and the rest of the world from eating GMOs—especially when it clearly prevents starvation and mass death.


45 posted on 02/15/2014 7:42:50 AM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If GMOs get your panties all wet then eat them. But let others decide not to.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 10:14:48 AM PST by nomad
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How does hiding them in our foods advance the cause of the individual`s right to self determination? We can do this all day, answering a question with a question.


47 posted on 02/15/2014 10:18:05 AM PST by nomad
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To: nomad
You avoid the question

No, I avoid nothing, especially the fact that you can't seem to grasp that everything you eat has been genetically modified over time. Why you want to force businesses to state the obvious on their labels is a mystery. Maybe the reason your side can't even manage to win with this nonsense in places like California and Washington is because, unlike yourself, most people get it.

You`ve placed your personal faith in these super foods, so now put these super foods to the test.

Maybe you missed the reports about how we're living longer today than at any other time in our history. If genetic modification in food is so bad, where are the ill effects?

But beyond the obvious lack of logic on your part, are you saying, as a conservative, that you want to force manufacturers to add additional labeling to their foods to address a problem that doesn’t even exist? Conservatives shouldn't be offering costly solutions that are wholly disproportionate to a nonexistent problem.

Labeling mandates based solely on an alleged consumers' "right to know," rather than on a product’s measurable characteristics, is in violation of the Constitution.

You are not allowed to demonize a product, or to create fear about a product, unless you can prove that there is a problem with the nutrition or safety of that product. You guys are big on whining, yet can offer nothing in the way of proof. The organic food industry supports your efforts, though, and they are doing all they can to foment anti-GMO hysteria. That way, more and more people can pay higher and higher prices for food that delivers absolutely zero additional benefits.

Every suggestion you've made here is anti-conservative in nature. Why you would openly confess your faith in far left causes on a forum such as this, and then throw your lot in with the likes of Greenpeace, begs the question: Are you really a conservative?

Yes, No, Maybe so? We're waiting......

48 posted on 02/15/2014 10:22:22 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
At the heart of Conservatism is the basic right to self determination as stated and evolved by the likes of the Immanuel Kant, John Locke, or the Founders. Whether GMO are the super foods you think they are or the death foods others may say they are is not the point. People have a basic right to know what they and others are doing with and to their bodies and that means information which includes labeling of ingredients, especially if those ingredients have been altered at their raw stage such as the GMO crops.

The rest of your argument is simply wrong or specious, Examples: the genetic modifications done to crops before the introduction of recombinant techniques have not been lab induced trans-domain genetic introductions but simple breeding selections, and yes, life spans have been increasing due to long term advances in, take your pick: the development of asepsis, refrigeration, vaccines, modern infrastructure such as sewage or water treatment, the list goes on, but GMO tech is only a recent development. The rest of your statement is little more than ad hominem opinion, I will not dignify it with a response.

49 posted on 02/15/2014 11:01:58 AM PST by nomad
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To: nomad
The US Courts ruled on this a long time ago: “Were consumer interest alone sufficient,” the court wrote, “there is no end to the information that states could require manufacturers to disclose about their production methods.”

The foods you eat every day contain trace amounts of dangerous chemicals, but because we know the dose makes the poison, we are not afraid of these trace chemicals in our food and, therefore, don't demand the food industry list every single one of them on every single package. That you want the government to force industry to list things present in the foods that you can't offer any legitimate evidence of being dangerous, is very telling about how you see the role of government.....big government.

You see, you are not allowed to demonize a product, or to create fear about a product, unless you can prove that there is a problem with the nutrition or safety of that product. This is what the left does. They create lies about a person or product and then use the media to demonize them/it. You want to do the same thing. That makes you no better than they are.

The fact that you can offer any proof that GMO food compromises the nutritional value or safety of those foods places you in the same league as the global warming alarmists and Greenpeace. Nice company you keep.

The rest of us shouldn't have to pay more for food simply because a bunch of scientific illiterates believe all the BS they read on the internet and don't have the education, or in this case, the common sense, to separate fact from fiction.

Again, everything you eat has been altered from its "raw stage" so I don't know how you manage to stay alive, by eating, while remaining consistent. Truth is, you can't be consistent when you promote nonsense like this.

You clearly don't understand modern bioengineering. Using a gene gun simply gets you where you want to go faster, and more accurately, than with selective breeding methods. As a matter of fact, selecting just one gene to be modified is much less risky than utilizing hybridization, because we are not messing with the other genes. With selective breeding, we are making all sorts of changes without really knowing what the outcome will be. Not so with modern methods of genetic engineering. To claim or suggest that modern genetic engineering is riskier than traditional methods cannot be supported by science. Like with so many of the anti-GMO crowd, it is nothing more than feelings.

50 posted on 02/15/2014 11:35:11 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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