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Where Is the Red Line of Impeachment?
American Thinker ^ | February 15, 2014 | Cindy Simpson

Posted on 02/15/2014 2:32:44 AM PST by neverdem

In the business world, a diligent board of directors would have long ago fired CEO Obama.

Sometimes it takes only a year of less than expected earnings to result in the termination of a corporate CEO. A couple of underperforming years and a few reasons more, and a CEO would have his bags packed and stowed underneath his buck-stopping desk. A long list of problems -- especially one suggesting even a hint of fraud -- that fails to generate a satisfactory board response would stir shareholders and lenders to demand the resignation of not only the CEO and other key employees, but also its directors. For without remediation, the company's stock prices would tumble as shareholders divest and banks pull the plug.

Our government's CEO is Barack Obama, its board of directors is Congress, its workforce consists of a growing multitude of Big Government bureaucracies, and its bank is the unaccountable monopoly of the Federal Reserve. Anymore, hardly anyone with any power in that vast organization seems to represent the interests of We the People (the shareholders).

The Democrat-media complex can ridicule political opposition as "fringe" or "extremist," but the ominous ticking of the 17-trillion-dollar debt clock is becoming harder to ignore. The growing debt transforms our shares from an asset into a liability that gravely impacts our national security. Our future generations will no longer expect the reward of dividends in their pursuit of happiness. Instead, and not by choice, they inherit more than their fair share of risk -- the labor of digging out of this financial mess, the difficult task of restoring real freedom and liberty, and the rebuilding of our national status and defenses abroad.

Not only has the financial value of our shares turned upside-down, but the attached voting value has become diluted...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 02/15/2014 2:32:44 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The problem isn’t a red line, it’s a black line....

Can’t cross the color barrier....

I for one think impeachment is a complete waste of time unless we win the Senate....and then it still might be a bad idea....since by then he will have two years left....

The impeachment train will have barely left the station by the time he’s gone....


2 posted on 02/15/2014 2:38:30 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem
Where Is the Red Line of Impeachment?

About a million miles behind 0bama. He crossed that line years ago.

3 posted on 02/15/2014 2:39:44 AM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Popman

Impeachment should still go ahead if we are able. It shows that tyrants are to held accountable for their actions.
Can criminal charges be placed after he leaves office?


4 posted on 02/15/2014 2:46:37 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: neverdem

Other questions: When is the military coup line crossed? When is the insurrection line crossed? When does the US become a Marxist dictatorship?


5 posted on 02/15/2014 2:59:23 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Popman

Exactly.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 2:59:59 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: neverdem
Obama will refuse to leave the White House in 2016 and there STILL will be no talk of impeachment.

I will never EVER vote for ANY black politician. They are held to NO standard.

7 posted on 02/15/2014 3:01:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Truth29

-——Other questions: When is the military coup line crossed? -——

The day he changes by EO the military oath from the defending the constitution to defending him...

Which I don’t think will happen, but with this power mad narcissistic poser... All bets are off....


8 posted on 02/15/2014 3:10:06 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Yorlik803

-——Impeachment should still go ahead if we are able.——

I might agree with if I thought the threat of impeachment would restrain his power grabs....

If anything that threat would empower him because the media would have his back....


9 posted on 02/15/2014 3:13:20 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

Very good article by Cindy Simpson for the articles of impeachment.

Beyond impeachment...

He has repeatedly lied and used our airwaves to amplify those lies.
He has not passed laws that help the colonists.
He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
His pen and his phone have dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
His pen and his phone have acted in taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our government.
He has stood idle and let unaccountable bureaucrats devalue our currency and relegate us, our children and grandchildren as slaves to debt and to the leviathan state.
He has made war upon our people and our land by division and strife.
Many of his actions have not protected us from our enemies and has used our justice department and state department to aid and abet our enemies.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

/partial list of grievances

...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

FUBO
FUJB
FUFED
FUCONgress
FUUSSC
FUInernationalSocialists/Toatlitarians


10 posted on 02/15/2014 3:14:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Popman
The House doesn't impeach because the perception is that impeachment isn't in the personal interest of most members.

I've pestered my Tea Party congressman Steve Southerland (FL-2) endlessly about excising the virus of Obama via impeachment. His response is always that “policy differences” don't rise to the level of impeachment. I would respect his honesty if he simply said most House members were too frightened. I don't respect lies.

11 posted on 02/15/2014 3:15:49 AM PST by Jacquerie (An Article V state amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Popman

How about a yellow line? The burning sulphur of hell.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 3:16:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: PGalt

How about “Please get a move on, We The People.”


13 posted on 02/15/2014 3:17:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: neverdem

How about the Biden line?

That’s the scary one.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:17 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: neverdem

Forget it, he’s black or assumed black


15 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:51 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: neverdem

Cute article, but we’re talking about the government here, not a “for profit” or other company with shareholders. Plus, a majority of the “shareholder/voters” associated with the government are simply voting for bigger dividends (largess from the public treasury) for themselves.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 3:32:06 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Popman

So what do we do? Let Obama run amok and trample the Bill of rights without the threat of Punishment?
And screw the media. Like the only people who watch network news are either very old or very stupid. And Newspapers are even worse. Most people gloss past the news and head for the comics or sports.
Obama need to face the music.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 3:34:23 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Yorlik803

-——Obama need to face the music.——

Nothing would make happier and also sad to see this POS do the perp walk....

Happy thar justice was served and sad that the American people are such sheep they elected him twice...

As for running amok....just wait until he is a true lame duck president when the Senate no longer blocks House legislation and the only power he has is the veto pen...

He will either go full fledge tin hat dictator or go on vacay and golf...

As for trampling the bill of rights both parties are guilty....Obama just relishes in it.....


18 posted on 02/15/2014 3:43:55 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ronnie raygun

Never happen....the Pubs don’t have the spine nor the balls to step up for this much work...when we can get more people in the Senate and the House like Cruz, Paul, Lee then maybe but right now, forget about it....


19 posted on 02/15/2014 3:50:44 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: Popman

“The problem isn’t a red line, it’s a black line....”

No it’s a yellow line.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 3:52:24 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Lazamataz

Even if it were Allan West? Herman Cane? Ben Carson?
C’mon Laz - you mis-spoke...I know you’re better than that.
Content of character FRiend, not color of skin...


21 posted on 02/15/2014 4:01:17 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Slambat

——No it’s a yellow line.-——

Though I certainly agree the yellow line running down the backs of most pubblies is a serious problem.....

What purpose other than give the media a “ squirrel” to distract the masses of LIV from the real reason he is being impeached rather than the media promoting the pubblies being a bunch of racist mouth breathers who just hate Obama because he is black...

In principle I think we should move to impeachment .... But at what cost and what result....

In the end I think it will be a losing proposition...


22 posted on 02/15/2014 4:01:23 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

I agree. I don’t think they would impeach him even if he issued an executive order making himself president for life. I’m not suggesting he will, but I’m not suggesting he won’t, either.


23 posted on 02/15/2014 4:19:08 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: neverdem

“In the business world, a diligent board of directors would have long ago fired CEO Obama.”

Like Ray Stanz said in “Ghostbusters”, “ I’ve worked in the private sector, they expect results.”


24 posted on 02/15/2014 4:20:44 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Lazamataz
I will never EVER vote for ANY black ”liberal” politician. They are held to NO standard.
What standard was Clinton (either of them) held to? The “unusually good liar” standard. Or as I should say, “standard."
Surely you don’t suppose a Allen West would be given a pass? Nonsense - it’s not the skin color, not really - that’s just a weapon. What it actually is that nobody gets called a “liberal” (or “progressive” or “moderate” or “centrist” - or any other positive label journalists can think of) without going along and getting along with the journalism monopoly. The only difference between an “objective” journalist and a “liberal” is that no journalist ever calls anyone other than a journalist “objective.” That’s it. It’s a hiring decision, nothing more. The difference between a “conservative” and a “liberal” is that the “conservative” can never get a job as an “objective” journalist, and the “liberal” can - because he already has experience second-guessing people who work to a bottom line.

25 posted on 02/15/2014 4:21:12 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Popman

Screw the rule of law. Impeachment won’t happen because the very people responsible for starting that process don’t care about our laws either. How about the red line of revolution? 3%.......


26 posted on 02/15/2014 4:24:50 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: neverdem

Obama does not have to worry about impeachment, for the reasons cited on this thread.

What he does have to worry about is his own party taking him out.

There have been two recent closed-door meetings between Obama and party factions.
If we believe the media reports as to what these meetings were about, then we can conclude all is well. I don’t believe the media, it can be assumed the media will lie.

The Democratic party is losing independents for crying out loud. Independents! Does anyone believe they aren’t in panic mode? The critical rift of course, is Obamacare. This is where the battle lines are drawn.

Rock, meet hard place.

It is now Obamacare goes down or the Democratic Party goes down. I think they will all begin to act in their own self interest, and the question is which one has the power over the other. I realize Obama will refuse to give in, and may seem to have the upper hand, but the Dems in Congress could put Obamacare to rest, and let’s face it, now that it has been implemented, even key Dem constituencies are against it.

Pass the popcorn.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 4:31:07 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: neverdem

This was a coup d’etat by MB/al Qaeda
who are now in charge of what was once the USA.

Law is gone. Freedom is gone. The Constitution is gone.
Accountability is gone.

The hated, EXEMPT, treasonous US Congress has abdicated
to their banks, brothels, and 4th vacation homes.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 4:36:24 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: neverdem
I have a different perspective on the demise of our Constitutional Republic.

There is no doubt that there is a coup going on that represents the very essence of the Democrap Party. It is executed by three offices:

1. The AG has anesthetized the whole Justice System. Pure nonfeasance on any issue which is in conflict with the aims of the Democrap Party.

2. By the Senate President paralyzing the Congress and polls only surveying the Congress as a single entity, the efforts of the House of Representatives are lost. Each house of the Congress should be polled separately.

3. The Executive branch is led by CZAR Gosnell Goebbels. I frequently ask myself who is the real press secretary? The airways are full of pronouncements from the CZAR and are repeated over and over many times a day. Remember the old Latin saying: "Repetitio est Mater Studiorum".

If a LIE is told often enough to large groups of people, pretty soon a large percentage of those people will believe the LIE.

The credit for the present state of our economy and our Republic must be given to the DEMOCRAP PARTY. They are the enablers of the legislation; they have control of the oversight functions; and with the CZAR as their spokesman, nothing counter to thier efforts will change the present situation.
29 posted on 02/15/2014 4:44:41 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: neverdem

It appears to be more of a pink gradient.


30 posted on 02/15/2014 4:49:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jacquerie
The House doesn't impeach because the perception is that impeachment isn't in the personal interest of most members.

Very true

The hierarchy of elected politicians priority

1. Get yourself re-elected
2. Help get your fellow member re-elected
3. Take care of your large donors
4. Keep your mistress happy to keep her mouth shut
5. Keep wife in plenty of happy pills
6. Take care of your dog.
7. Your constituents...but only during election cycles

31 posted on 02/15/2014 4:57:33 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

Golf buddies are exempt from impeachment.

(it's in the Constitution..)

32 posted on 02/15/2014 4:58:13 AM PST by greedo
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To: Popman
He would never do so because that would be an act of honesty.

Just as he need not instruct the IRS to sic his enemies, his newly reformed military will need no explicit order to protect our Darky Despot.

33 posted on 02/15/2014 5:03:20 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: spankalib

Yes. I misspoke. But I’m angry at all the racism being shown by the average black to my kind of people.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 5:07:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

I believe some else previously nailed it when they stated it is not a “red line”, it is a “YELLOW LINE”.

There are too few rhino’s that will stand up and support impeaching odumbo. They ALSO need to be “impeached”, by the legal voters.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 5:13:15 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: neverdem

The founders wanted to make replacement of the President difficult. They did not want it to be like Italy turned out to be.

In practice, they made replacement impossible. There will never be a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict, Barack or any one else.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 5:15:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: wayoverontheright
It is now Obamacare goes down or the Democratic Party goes down

The die is cast...when "You can keep your health care if you want to" lie was exposed...

Anybody with a functioning brain knows Obamacare needs to die or at least be seriously reformed...

Those same people also know the only way to kill or reform Obamacare is to dump the dems...

It's going to be a bloodbath for the dems come 2014...

37 posted on 02/15/2014 5:21:00 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lazamataz

His actions has assured that no one with a working brain will ever vote for him again, not that he will have any opportunities unless he uses his executive powers to repeal the 22nd amendment (which his idiot followers would’t get why that’s a bad thing). He’s like hiring the Mafia to manage the IRS. Bad idea.


38 posted on 02/15/2014 5:21:14 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: neverdem
“Where Is the Red Line of Impeachment?”

Face it, if Bama were a white pubbie he would have been impeached by now. Old Uncle Sam, now Uncle Schmuck will never impeach it's first black president, of Kenyan descent.

39 posted on 02/15/2014 5:23:42 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: Lazamataz

Understand FRiend. Sometimes I need to just “step away”, or go to God about it all.
You got this.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 5:33:53 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Truth29

And the German’s lament still remains with: How, when,where, and how did we let this happen?


41 posted on 02/15/2014 5:36:29 AM PST by blaveda
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To: Lazamataz

They are held to the black standard, which is a horse of a different color.


42 posted on 02/15/2014 5:38:53 AM PST by blaveda
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To: Truth29

“When does the US become a Marxist dictatorship?”

Soon, comrade, soon.

What about the name, “Soviet States of America”

Pretty catchy, isn’t it?

IMHO


43 posted on 02/15/2014 5:40:23 AM PST by ripley
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To: neverdem
Where Is the Red Line of Impeachment?

That line is way back there in January of 2008 with his first official lie, his oath of office.

44 posted on 02/15/2014 5:40:59 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Popman

The lawlessness of the Senate is no excuse for the House to fail to act in line with its responsibilities.


45 posted on 02/15/2014 5:41:03 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Popman; neverdem; Fred Nerks; LucyT; Beckwith

Can’t cross the color barrier....>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not true. Its time for all Americans to be Americans. Why sjhould we submit to the divide and conquer meme of the Black Power Nationalist Redistribution Socialist Obama Movement.

The biggest fear they have is that we awaken and unite against them. The only thing stopping us is the GOP elite, who want things to be ‘the same’ when in fact they are not business as usual at all.

The GOP will never again achieve majority elective office as long as Boehner, McConnell and others remain passive players in the face of Obamas nationalist socialism.The future is with Cruz, Lee , and others, those whom the GOP seeks to destroy on behalf of Obama.Congress has power. Its time to use it agianst a criminal executive,or get out of town.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 5:41:27 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: neverdem

Dumb question. He could start exterminating people on live tv and the SRM would not question it. The rats would defend it. The GOPe would sit on their hands. Nothing would happen.


47 posted on 02/15/2014 5:47:28 AM PST by Clay Moore ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: Yorlik803

Indeed, impeachment should be a start to prosecute the way business goes on in DC at large. Further charges should follow.

It is a dangerous precedent to have people bragging about what they can get away with, the number of people they have fooled and made money of, or, worse, in the case of Mao the number ofnpeople they murdered.

Always is easier for a tyrant to murder his own first, then they murder entire countries.


48 posted on 02/15/2014 6:10:11 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: greedo

49 posted on 02/15/2014 6:28:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

Save


50 posted on 02/15/2014 6:33:47 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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