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Cruz to get hero's welcome in Iowa and New Hampshire
The Hill ^ | February 15, 2014 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 02/15/2014 4:42:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife


credit Greg Nash

Conservatives in Iowa and New Hampshire are preparing a hero’s welcome for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) after he showed up Senate Republican leaders during a crucial vote on the debt limit.

Cruz infuriated his Senate Republican colleagues this week when he filibustered a clean bill to raise the debt limit. His objection forced Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and 11 other Republicans to vote with Democrats to advance the legislation.

But in Iowa and New Hampshire, two important presidential primary states, conservative activists are cheering Cruz’s stand and buzzing about a possible presidential run in 2016.

Activists in the two states said they plan to show Cruz their appreciation when he visits in March and April.

“A tickertape parade,” said Steve Deace, a conservative radio host based in Iowa when asked what kind of reception Cruz will receive from activists next month.

“At this point with grassroots conservatives around the country it’s a close vote between who they distrust the most, the president, [Speaker] John Boehner [R-Ohio] or Mitch McConnell,” he said.

Ann Ray Trimble, a conservative activist in Iowa, said she and her allies are thrilled that Cruz took on his colleagues.

“It plays very well because the rank-and-file conservative in Iowa is a law-and-order person who believes, as Sen. Cruz stated in his objection, that the rules are the rules, the laws are the laws, and we need to follow them and not break them for political expediency.”

Cruz will speak on March 18 at a homeschooling rally hosted by the Network of Iowa Christian Home Educators in Des Moines.

On April 12, he will attend the New Hampshire Freedom Summit, an event sponsored by Americans For Prosperity, a Tea Party-allied group, along with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, two other potential candidates for president in 2016.

Greg Moore, the state director of Americans for Prosperity-New Hampshire, said conservative activists who will gather at the rally applauded Cruz’s action and want to see more transparency in Washington.

“They want to see people take a stand one way or the other. ‘Where do you stand on spending? How serious are you about spending?’ Fiscal issues are huge in New Hampshire,” said Moore.

“Our activists want to see a great deal of accountability,” he added. “They would look at any opportunity bringing accountability as positive for Sen. Cruz.”

Cruz’s Republican colleagues, however, did not appreciate his filibuster. They held a tense and angry meeting Wednesday afternoon at which McConnell proposed waiving the 60-vote threshold normally required to advance legislation, according to sources familiar with the session.

Cruz stood up and declared he would not let his fellow Republicans to escape responsibility for advancing the debt-limit bill. He said he would force at least five Republicans to vote with Democrats to overcome the procedural hurdle.

A Senate Republican aide described the meeting as “very contentious.”

Cruz further inflamed his colleagues by accusing them of trying to mislead the public after the vote.

“In the 13 months I’ve been in the Senate it has become apparent to me the single thing that Republican politicians hate and fear the most … is when they’re forced to tell the truth. It makes their heads explode,” Cruz told conservative radio host Mark Levin. “The Republicans members of the Senate, they all wanted the perfect show vote.”

“They should be totally pissed at him,” said Fergus Cullen, the former chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party, when asked about the reaction of Cruz’s colleagues. “For him to do this after being in the Senate for one year, he’s obviously not preparing himself for a long career in the Senate.”

Cullen acknowledged that Cruz’s tactics would likely win over conservative activists but questioned whether he has come to be viewed by centrists as too far to the right.

“I do think objectively it probably plays pretty well to the base,” he said.

“What’s your long-term aim?” Cullen added. “Are you interested in getting elected nationally? All you’re doing right now is setting up a political career that will hit its ceiling very quickly, and it’s a pretty low ceiling.”

If Cruz were to win the GOP nomination in 2016, he would need resounding support from the party’s most conservative voters. He could face stiff competition from Paul and perhaps Huckabee, who won the Iowa caucuses in 2008.

Chip Saltsman, a Republican strategist who managed Huckabee’s 2008 presidential campaign, predicted Cruz would have a difficult challenge trying to explain his procedural moves in the Senate to voters in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“At the end of the day Ted Cruz made McConnell have a 60-vote limit and the debt ceiling still passed. It’s not like he stopped the debt limit from being passed,” he said.

Cruz’s procedural tactics have angered his GOP colleagues throughout his short Senate career. They blasted him for waging a high-profile fight in the fall to link a government funding resolution to an effort to halt the implementation of ObamaCare.

He irked some of them in early 2013 by insisting, along with fellow Tea Party-allied conservatives, on a 60-vote threshold to proceed to a debate on gun control legislation.

Gun-rights advocates later credited Cruz for helping to defeat expanded background checks because the procedural vote offered a useful map of which Republicans might have been sympathetic to the Democratic reform proposal.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; accountability; conservatism; cruz; gope; leadership; presidential; teaparty; tedcruz
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 4:42:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz - American who support the Constitution and Equality
under the LAW

obama - an undocumented Indonesian, forced on America
by Pelosi and Soros, who hates the Constitution, and Law,
and had created “Holdering” (the widescale attack, rape
and destruction of innocent or elderly white people
aided by the DO”J” which has told them REPEATEDLY that
they are above, what was once, Law).


2 posted on 02/15/2014 4:45:34 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Well Earned.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 4:47:33 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Diogenesis; Cincinatus' Wife

I respect both of you but cannot understand this cheering for Cruz. I don’t understand it. He has about as much experience as Obama did when he became President and this is who we want? The guy has not had a single thing get through the House, Senate and signed into law. Sure he and Wendy Davis have the same experience with talking for 30 hours but accomplishing nothing. Why are people not getting behind Walker who is a Governor and has proved to get things done and even rise above adversity and even get reelected after a recall? I don’t get it. Why are we wanting another Obama clone in Cruz…..sure they don’t agree with each other but they both do nothing but talk. I just don’t get it.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 4:55:43 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Walker is great too. He has accomplished great things - but would have a tough time with a lack of “zing”.

Cruz, while only a very short time in office, is indeed an outsider and actually says, straight up, what we’re all craving to hear. And damn he can talk - debate anyone - which becomes easier when you just tell the truth.

Both would be good. No candidate is perfect but these two are close imo.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 5:01:16 AM PST by Principled
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To: scooby321

Cruz reminds me of Wisconsin’s Governor Walker. Walker said something like this, “I may not be here long but while I am here, I am going to do what ever it takes.....etc.”

I applaud Cruz for his tenacity. The Rhino’s need to be shaken and shaken hard. They fear Cruz might upset their cushy jobs and self sustaining ideas. No doubt he has other plans than the Senate. He needs to keep a close watch on his back. Nothing surprises me anymore.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 5:01:54 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Principled

No candidate is perfect but these two are close imo.

My biggest complaint with Cruz is his zero accomplishments. If he could just have one result, I would at least be more comfortable with him. I am just concerned that he does not have the ability to motivate and convince his fellow senators to pass laws. He should be able to convince the Democrats too which he has not been able to. I think that is why he is so weak. He is certainly no Reagan who was able to convince Democrats to go along with his beliefs. Heck even Bush could too. Cruz has not convinced on Democrat to vote his way.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 5:05:31 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: scooby321

He’s the next president. A cross between Ronald Reagan and John Wayne.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 5:07:09 AM PST by refermech
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think it behooves EVERY voter out there who is resigned to the mistaken idea that voting for the next best alternative is a good thing when it comes to RINOs.

Even the RINOs who have succeeded in maneuvering their ‘conservative’ records by emphasizing their “no” votes on liberal legislation. Most of the time, these are just ‘show votes’ which are pointless simple majority votes the KNOW they won’t stop. The time to have stopped them was the vote before that, forcing a 60 vote majority for cloture on the bill. They vote yes for that and no for the floor vote. DESPICABLE.

If you are considering voting for one of these traitors, don’t believe their ‘conservative’ ratings. Go look at the votes prior to the ones they are claiming are true to their constituents. RINOs are masters at this game.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 5:10:26 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: refermech

I like him...


10 posted on 02/15/2014 5:13:45 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: napscoordinator
I really hope that this forum will not be witness to a series of posts in every thread about one potential presidential candidate or another which attempt to advance their man's chances by ruining another man's chances.

We did that to ourselves and ended up with McCain and we did it again and we ended up with Romney. Let the best man win because he is the best man not because he is the least worst.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 5:18:03 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: napscoordinator
Cruz has zero legislative accomplishments but I think he has indeed accomplished some important things.

To me, his most important accomplishment is that he is stirring the right to stop being an 0bama rubber stamp. This has the added benefit of identifying the gope [who are now in charge of money and committee assigns.]People crave that.

If he succeeds in overturning the R leadership to conservative, that would be huge to me. At that point, the many other like-thinking but less courageous would find the courage to fight 0bama and the dems too.

IMO the plan never was to defund 0bamacare or prevent the debt ceiling hike - although those outcomes would have been great. The plan was to fight at all to slow them down or even get something in return. It would have been so easy to turn down the debt ceiling increase unless there was a repeal of the cut to troops retirement or a prohibition on ins co. bailouts [risk corridors] or both.

So IMO Cruz HAS accomplished a lot albeit not legislatively.

12 posted on 02/15/2014 5:22:26 AM PST by Principled
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To: nathanbedford
...which attempt to advance their man's chances by ruining another man's chances

Bravo. This seems to be a challenge for many.

13 posted on 02/15/2014 5:25:08 AM PST by corkoman
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To: nathanbedford
We did that to ourselves and ended up with McCain and we did it again and we ended up with Romney.

Yeah. What he said.

Notwithstanding what he said... wouldn't it be cool if FR really DID pick the nominee?

14 posted on 02/15/2014 5:35:52 AM PST by Principled
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To: napscoordinator

It’s called standing on principal my friend... the best politician is one that endears himself to the people by standing on principal, not by playing politics to win the affections of other “witty” politicians and the low information voter.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 5:38:38 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: nathanbedford

Well you have a point. I just find Cruz to be Obama in many ways….the gift to gab and one term Senator. We used to forbid Senators from running or at least that was our hope. We need a Governor this time to win because we need someone who has accomplishments. But again you are right with your assessment.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 5:50:30 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: napscoordinator

Differing walks in life appeal to different people. Cruz has exactly been out
of the loop but has been involved in many different arenas.

Here are a few examples of his career.

Clerkships, 95-96
Private practice 97-98
Bush Campaign 99
Bush v Gore 2000
U.S. Justice Department and U.S. Federal Trade Commission 00-03
Solicitor Attorney General office - Tx 03-08
Private Practice 09-13
US Senator 13 -


17 posted on 02/15/2014 5:50:37 AM PST by deport
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To: napscoordinator
I respect both of you but cannot understand this cheering for Cruz. I don’t understand it. He has about as much experience as Obama did when he became President and this is who we want? The guy has not had a single thing get through the House, Senate and signed into law.

I thought the idea was to STOP all this legislation and roll a lot of it back.

Re experience - Ted Cruz was the Solicitor General of Texas for 5 years pleading cases before the U.S. Supreme Court - very impressive record, you can review it here:

After that he was in private law practice. After Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison retired he fought what was believed to be a losing challenge to a shoo-in candidate for her seat. Yet he was sworn into office Jan 2013.

18 posted on 02/15/2014 5:50:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: refermech
He’s the next president. A cross between Ronald Reagan and John Wayne.

Reagan was willing to work with the Democrats and to compromise. I don't think Cruz can. If Cruz is elected president in 2016 the Democrats will spend the next four years blocking everything he tries to do.

19 posted on 02/15/2014 5:53:03 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: napscoordinator
I appreciate your making those observations and asking those questions.

Though he's not my choice for POTUS, Ted Cruz has chosen to help fill a political void left by the former Republican party's abdication and he's doing an excellent job keeping his promises to those who elected him.

For these things, he has maintained the respect he earned from me and is my hope for Senate leadership and to return the Senate to Constitutional governance.

I wish there were more like him in both houses.

20 posted on 02/15/2014 5:55:16 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

Walker is too geeky. He missed out on a great opportunity after beating the recall last June-the last week of school. Since it was the teachers unions that were so against him he should have shouted-a la John Belushi-”FOOD FIGHT!


21 posted on 02/15/2014 6:08:11 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DoodleDawg

But wouldn’t the dems block anything any republican proposed?
Anyway gridlock is good. Less damage done that way.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 6:10:11 AM PST by refermech
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Romney is just the same. He lost-ok? We learned nothing. In his concession speech he could have said to America’s young: “Good luck finding a job.”


23 posted on 02/15/2014 6:10:19 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: napscoordinator
I think of that great scene in My Little Chickadee in which a woman, admiring a huge ring, says to Mae West, "goodness, what a beautiful ring" and Mae West provocatively replies, "goodness had nothing to do with it."

My feeling is that experience has very little to do with getting elected. Most voters, and I would venture a predominance of those who vote for Democrats, do not vote on experience but on emotion. In other words, experience has nothing to do with it. That is not as I would have it but as I see it.

John F. Kennedy had little experience any was elected over the more experienced Richard Nixon. Jerry Ford had far more experience than a governor, Jimmy Carter, but he lost to the upstart. No one had more experience in his resume in recent memory than George HW Bush but he lost to a governor with a dubious past and even more dubious present.

As it is, not how it should be, the price goes to the charismatic, to the "cool" candidate, the one who can capture the emotion and build momentum. Ted Cruz clearly has that ability. If one listens to his appearance the other day on Mark Levin's reply one cannot help but be impressed with the man's eloquence and, yes, his charisma. I have yet to hear him put a foot down wrong.

Governor Walker has a demonstrated character of courage in the face of unrelenting assault and and adherence to conservative principles which gives one confidence in his integrity as well as his ability.

The question is, do you favor a man who has potential to sweep the country into a new era, Ted Cruz, or do you favor a man who was demonstrated a clear capacity to revolutionize and revitalize a state and save it from liberal self-destruction?

Full disclosure, I favor Ted Cruz but I would not be in the least bit unhappy if Walker were our next president. Let the best man win.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 6:14:16 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Cruz infuriated his Senate Republican colleagues this week when he filibustered a clean bill to raise the debt limit. His objection forced Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and 11 other Republicans to vote with Democrats to advance the legislation.”

Who were the other 11 republicans who voted with herr reid?


25 posted on 02/15/2014 6:15:06 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine
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To: napscoordinator
I am just concerned that he does not have the ability to motivate and convince his fellow senators to pass laws.

We don't need more laws, we need fewer laws.

26 posted on 02/15/2014 6:16:54 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Barrasso (R-WY)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Flake (R-AZ)
Hatch (R-UT)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kirk (R-IL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)

Not voting:
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)


27 posted on 02/15/2014 6:18:54 AM PST by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“They held a tense and angry meeting Wednesday afternoon at which McConnell proposed waiving the 60-vote threshold normally required to advance legislation, according to sources familiar with the session.”

That tells you everything you need to know about McConnell. Doing the Dhimms’ dirty work behind closed doors and then running ads in Kentucky saying that he’s a conservative. This guy is a slime ball.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 6:20:35 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I see the campaign for President has begun.

The Establishment trolls have already begun posting on Free Republic.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 6:21:54 AM PST by Oak Grove (H)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Chip Saltsman, a Republican strategist who managed Huckabee’s 2008 presidential campaign, predicted Cruz would have a difficult challenge trying to explain his procedural moves in the Senate to voters in Iowa and New Hampshire.
“At the end of the day Ted Cruz made McConnell have a 60-vote limit and the debt ceiling still passed. It’s not like he stopped the debt limit from being passed,” he said.”

I can't believe they're still parading Karl Rove wannabe Saltsman out to parrot the Party Boy Establishment line. These guys’ times have passed but they won't admit and still want to haul in their ill-gotten gain.

30 posted on 02/15/2014 6:23:28 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Reagan was willing to work with the Democrats and to compromise.

Compromise is highly over-rated. During Reagan's second term the dems took back the senate and began destroying all the good Reagan had done with a vengeance. Reagan's administration still holds the record for the most indictments and convictions for various offenses, many on the Iran Contra witch hunt.

31 posted on 02/15/2014 6:25:16 AM PST by Bearshouse
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To: napscoordinator

“The guy has not had a single thing get through the House, Senate and signed into law.”

If that is our yardstick, why not nominate McCain again? He’s gotten a lot of things passed.

Or should we be concerned about getting the RIGHT things passed? And continue saying NO to unconstitutional spending and amnesty, even if the rest of the Republican Senate salons want to continue their Big Government binge?


32 posted on 02/15/2014 6:30:31 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: napscoordinator

um... how is a REAL conservative to achieve a result with a Senate controlled by Democrats and a Democrat president?

I guess depending on what you call an “accomplishment” IF we gain control of the Senate in the fall, I am sure Cruz will accomplish a lot... that will then be veto’d by Obama. At which point you will then still accuse him of accomplishing nothing.

He is one man standing up against a tidal wave of socialists. Give him the credit he deserves.

I am 100% sure if he had “compromised” to ... “achieve” something, you would be the first here to label him a RINO traitor!


33 posted on 02/15/2014 6:57:36 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

um... how is a REAL conservative to achieve a result with a Senate controlled by Democrats and a Democrat president?

Reagan managed as Governor and President. He had a Demcratic Senate and House for both state and federal. If you are a real conservative you can get things done, when you aren’t like Cruz, you can talk all day about it.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 7:04:18 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: refermech
But wouldn’t the dems block anything any republican proposed?

Oh definitely. It makes no difference in that respect who gets elected in 2016. If it's a Republican then the Dems will filibuster everything they propose. If it's a Democrat then the GOP will do the same.

35 posted on 02/15/2014 7:07:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: TexasFreeper2009
IF we gain control of the Senate in the fall, I am sure Cruz will accomplish a lot... that will then be veto’d by Obama.

Even if the GOP gains control next year, I don't see Cruz being able to accomplish much. The Democrats will filibuster anything he tries and there will still be about 10% to 15% of the Republicans who hate him enough to not support him.

36 posted on 02/15/2014 7:11:11 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: napscoordinator

The Democrats that Reagan dealt with were far less radical than the ones who exist today. Not saying they were conservatives but you did have a bunch of blue dogs especially from the south who played a big part in passing Reagan’s tax cuts in the eighties. Bush was far more liberal than many of us want to admit so he found common ground with many Democrats especially on things like immigration and government preschool funding. Today’s Democratic Party is an absolute joke but they’re facing a gutless GOP that won’t call them out for what they truly are, an American socialist party, and the media has their back by portraying them as a bunch of centrists to fool the mass of low education dupes. Cruz may not have the national experience you desire but he’s the only one in DC willing to take on the left and not back down and make side deals with them. You want him to find common ground with radicals like Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, and hell every other Democratic senator? This is why Cruz appeals to so many of us. He’s fed up with the left, tired of the spineless RINOS making deals with them, and he’s taking them on mostly by himself. Isn’t that enough of a leader for you, or do you prefer a dealmaker who rolls over for the left like Christie or Jeb Bush as the GOP standard bearer? We’ve gone down that road too many times and look what we’ve done to this country as a result.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 7:28:49 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
His objection forced Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and 11 other Republicans to vote with Democrats to advance the legislation.

Every single phrase these "journalists" write is just dripping with spin and prejudice.

38 posted on 02/15/2014 7:41:21 AM PST by BRL
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A “hero’s welcome” does not translate into caucus and primary votes in liberal IA and NH.


39 posted on 02/15/2014 8:58:27 AM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

40 posted on 02/15/2014 9:00:42 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: napscoordinator
What Cruz has accomplished is nothing short of spectacular.

He has single handedly put the business as usual crowd on their collective asses and turned the system on it's head and is laying waste to the status quo, armed with nothing but principle and courage.

And you compare him to Obama???

He is Sampson with a jawbone destroying the Philistines. A political Rambo.

Keep your eye on this one, it might just open.

41 posted on 02/15/2014 9:17:59 AM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; tbw2; Ricebug; parthian shot; mrsmel; infool7; SunshinesStormySummerSon; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


42 posted on 02/15/2014 9:28:54 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Principled; napscoordinator

Walker has a real problem with Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Amnesty.


43 posted on 02/15/2014 9:30:30 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: napscoordinator; nathanbedford
Well you have a point. I just find Cruz to be Obama in many ways….the gift to gab and one term Senator. We used to forbid Senators from running or at least that was our hope. We need a Governor this time to win because we need someone who has accomplishments. But again you are right with your assessment.

And then you try to add insult to injury and CEMENT NathanBedford's point.
44 posted on 02/15/2014 9:32:47 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Oak Grove
I see the campaign for President has begun.

You're just now realizing that? Where have you been?

The Establishment trolls have already begun posting on Free Republic.

So what exactly did I say that was wrong? A President Cruz could compromise? The Democrats won't filibuster everything he proposes? Can you be more specific please?

45 posted on 02/15/2014 9:34:13 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: deport

Thank you. Maine’s other socialist, Angus King, voted yes also.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 9:52:02 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m trying to understand the point the poster is presenting, in that we need one with experience.
So to that point, the GOPe put up Romney, who clearly had experience. They put up McCain, another who had experience. They tried Dole, definately had experience.

I say we go with a man who has honesty and integrity, and yes, a level of experience that is tangible.

No one is going to change naps mind, it’s clear as day.


47 posted on 02/15/2014 10:13:33 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: napscoordinator
pssst...ok!..I've read enough of your posts....

Tell the truth!...are u Karl Rove or just being paid by him??....One thing for sure...you're no conservative...maybe u should spread your liberal GOP-E talking points somewhere else..they wont fly very well here

48 posted on 02/15/2014 10:42:53 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
No one is going to change naps mind, it’s clear as day.<<

LMAO....truest post of the day! (expect him to chime in on EVERY Cruz thread..that's the dead giveaway)

49 posted on 02/15/2014 10:51:42 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: napscoordinator
I just find Cruz to be Obama in many ways….

That's just plain offensive.

You are comparing a man who lied about who he was, hid what he really believed, and pretended he would do what he never intended to do, with what appears to be a principled conservative, one who wants to put conservative principles in to place, one who HAS actually stood for his beliefs, one who loves everything about America and stands for its founding principles.

I wouldn't mind if Walker was our nominee, but your ridiculous comparison is just odious........

50 posted on 02/15/2014 10:58:31 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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