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Cruz Senate Provocation Goes Unpunished as Tools Ineffective
sfgate.com ^ | 2/14/14 | Kathleen Hunter

Posted on 02/15/2014 6:15:41 AM PST by cotton1706

A growing group of Ted Cruz’s Republican Senate colleagues are infuriated with his tactics.

So frustrated was Arizona Senator John McCain with the latest, forcing fellow Republicans to take a politically risky vote on lifting the debt ceiling, that yesterday he tweeted a Wall Street Journal editorial accusing the Texas lawmaker of instigating “needless drama that helps to explain why Republicans remain a minority.”

Yet there’s not much McCain, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell or other Republicans can do to change Cruz’s behavior.

“In this day and age, there are no tools available to a leader to punish a member like Senator Cruz, especially because Senator Cruz doesn’t care what either the leader or the rest of his caucus thinks,” said Jim Manley, a former top aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

Cruz’s insistence Feb. 12 on a 60-vote threshold to advance legislation lifting the nation’s borrowing cap foiled his party leadership’s plan to let the measure move forward with only Democratic votes. He led the October fight to defund the 2010 health care law, resulting in a partial government shutdown and the party’s cratering in public opinion polls.

The Republican Party’s favorability was at a record low of 28 percent in a Gallup Poll conducted Oct. 3-6, during the shutdown. That was down 10 percentage points from the previous month and 15 points below Democrats.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; mccain; mclame; tedcruz; tedcruzbashing
I love posting these stories because they're a window into how these people think.

All Cruz did was deny a unanimous consent. He didn't agree on the issue, therefore, it wasn't unanimous. It wasn't a 100-0 issue, therefore, the result is that the body takes a vote to decide, or resolve it. But because of the body rules that Cruz played no part in making, for the vote to succeed, it required 60 votes, which those who supported the issue would have to gather together if they wanted it to pass.

And somehow, this merits punishment in the establishment's eyes. The idea that the United States Senate should actually vote according to its own rules.

But the dirty little secret is, that these rules have been created specifically so that senators won't have to vote on issues. They can pass legislation by "unanimous consent," that is "both all and none are responsible" for the legislation. Very convenient, especially for senators like McConnell, who hide behind his "conservative" rating but work to pass legislation behind the scenes.

Ted Cruz did nothing but make senators vote, and for that, there's talk of punishment. But punishment won't be had. Oh, too bad!

1 posted on 02/15/2014 6:15:41 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

It did flush out the politicians that do not believe in living within our means. That is a good thing IMHO.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 6:18:25 AM PST by refermech
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To: cotton1706
"Be reasonable, like me, dammit!"


3 posted on 02/15/2014 6:18:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cotton1706

McConnell and Cornyn: clearly part of the problem.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 6:18:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: cotton1706

Give me ONE Cruz, as opposed to a thousand McCain’s.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 6:22:36 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: cotton1706

The LEFT (and RINOs) will always tell you who and what they fear.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 6:23:44 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: Paladin2

With what little procedural power Cruz has, he sure makes the best of it. I love this no holds barred approach.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 6:24:09 AM PST by iontheball
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To: cotton1706
Ted Cruz reminds me of my favorite U.S. Senator in my lifetime: Jesse Helms of North Carolina. He and Ronald Reagan did more to save this country for a generation than anyone else. And, yeah, Jesse also made a lot of the GOPe perpetually angry by insisting that they go on record.

I'm sure that McCain and his ilk breathed a huge sigh of relief when Helms retired. Until now.

8 posted on 02/15/2014 6:26:24 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cotton1706
In this day and age, there are no tools available to a leader to punish a member like Senator Cruz

What has our country come to, when they moan about "no tools" to "punish" a Senator for speaking his mind, and look at the floor when somebody mentions Zero's uncountable Constitutional outrages.

9 posted on 02/15/2014 6:26:34 AM PST by jiggyboy
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To: Travis McGee

One day McCain will get so ‘furious’ that he strokes out.

Well, one can hope.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: cotton1706

McDemocRat acting like a liberal has done more to hurt the GOP. FU McAmnesty and the horse you rode in on. Filthy f’n DemocRat.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 6:27:27 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Give me ONE Cruz, as opposed to a thousand McCain’s.

That's roughly the situation we're in. We need higher standards than that.

12 posted on 02/15/2014 6:28:11 AM PST by jiggyboy
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To: cotton1706

Totalitarians have no shortage of tactics or “tools” to plunder. They can get a majority and vote for it. Thanks Ted Cruz.


13 posted on 02/15/2014 6:29:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: cotton1706

It is not his tactics that make them angry.

It is his principles.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 6:31:22 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: iontheball

Ree Ree Ree! Kick them in the knee!
Ree Ree Rass! Kick them in the other knee!


15 posted on 02/15/2014 6:38:15 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law and does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Travis McGee
“In this day and age, there are no tools available to a leader to punish a member like Senator Cruz, especially because Senator Cruz doesn’t care what either the leader or the rest of his caucus thinks,” said Jim Manley, a former top aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

The same can be said about turncoats like McCain and Flake from Az.

16 posted on 02/15/2014 6:39:46 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone
“In this day and age, there are no tools available to a leader to punish a member like Senator Cruz, especially because Senator Cruz doesn’t care what either the leader or the rest of his caucus thinks,”

Thus displaying the disaster that the 17th amendment continues to be. Ted Cruz is there to represent his state and the people who elected him, not the DC club.
17 posted on 02/15/2014 6:43:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cotton1706

Cruz shaking up the old ‘status quo’, making these politicians accountable for votes, not allowing them to hide in the ‘herd’ ..... love it.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 6:45:26 AM PST by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: cotton1706

How dare Cruz expose the cowards for what they are!


19 posted on 02/15/2014 6:47:01 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: cotton1706
So frustrated was Arizona Senator John McCain with the latest, forcing fellow Republicans to take a politically risky vote on lifting the debt ceiling, that yesterday he tweeted a Wall Street Journal editorial accusing the Texas lawmaker of instigating “needless drama that helps to explain why Republicans remain a minority.”

McQueeg is POed because he (and Flake) was exposed as the cockroach he is, as he was flushed out from under the rock. The worst place for a Senator to be is voting for cloture, then voting against the subsequent bill. The classic Kerry "I voted for it before I voted against it." Every time a Senator does that it pulls the mask back just a little bit more.

Now, citizens of AZ will be able to ask either Senator in a town hall, "Senator, why did you vote for this bad deal, then vote against it? If you didn't like the bill, then why would you vote for it in the first place?" They will, too. Despite Sarah Palin's foolishly trashing the AZ state Party for showing some guts and Censuring McQueeg, the kind of people who go to town halls will be emboldened.

20 posted on 02/15/2014 6:47:29 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: cotton1706

Fujm


21 posted on 02/15/2014 6:55:08 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep rigsupreme Splasht)
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To: Sirius Lee

The big-spending, amnesty-loving RINOs are wrong. Tea Party antics are not causing the abysmal ratings of Congress. The polls are low because many conservatives tell pollsters that they hate RINOs in Congress.

Congress and the Republicans would be rated a lot higher if RINOs added some spine and joined with the tea party in promoting a clear, CONSERVATIVE vision for America.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 6:57:04 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: Travis McGee

McCain and his boys....

23 posted on 02/15/2014 6:57:37 AM PST by onedoug
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To: cotton1706
It's always fun to read about liberal RINOs outraged by the truth, especially when told by Ted Cruz, who is following Ann Coulter's advice:

"If the liberal you're arguing with doesn't become speechless with sputtering, impotent rage, you're not doing it right. People don't get angry when lies are told about them; they get angry when the truth is told about them. If you are not being called outrageous by liberals, you're not being outrageous enough. Start with the maximum assertion about liberals and then push the envelope, because as we know, their evil is incalculable... Nothing too extreme can be said about liberals, because it's all true. (Ann Coulter, How to talk to a liberal (if you must), 2004, p. 12)

24 posted on 02/15/2014 6:57:37 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: cotton1706
I thought the media loves internecine warfare within the GOP.

They seem actually upset that Cruz embarrassed the lilly livered poltroon RINOs.

The world wonders why.

25 posted on 02/15/2014 7:03:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I like it when some light is shined on cockroaches.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 7:04:26 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: refermech

Ted Cruz wasn’t elected to the Senate to make sure the RINO leadership stays in power. Its not his responisbility to do their bidding.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 7:13:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cotton1706
They make ""Ted Cruz’s Republican Senate colleagues "" sound like his
dear closest friends are turning on him. Hogwash.

Keep it Up Cruz, God Bless Ya!

28 posted on 02/15/2014 7:16:03 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: cotton1706

The real story in my mind is that there are thousands of lying, propaganda spreading writers like this Kathleen Hunter. They are willing tools for the left that craft endless articles of half truths and outright lies in order to enrich themselves at the expense of freedom.

They’re active, lying participants in destroying people’s lives and they know it. I don’t understand how they get away with it? How are they not ridiculed and shunned everywhere they go? Are they part of a secret hidden society?I have known one “journalist” in my life and he quit the business years ago.

There isn’t one person in the press I would spit on if they were on fire. They’re liars that are actively destroying the America we’ve always know and they should be ridiculed wherever they go.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 7:17:29 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: hal ogen

Its cute the way the media is leaping to the defense of the GOPe.


30 posted on 02/15/2014 7:26:55 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Paladin2

They are the personification of the problem.


31 posted on 02/15/2014 7:29:59 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: cotton1706

First of all, they believe Cruz should be “punished”. I’d love to see McCain punished for crimes committed when he was in the navy.

Second, the republican leaders wanted it to move forward with just democratic votes. Then why vote with them, McCain and McConnell? What they did was make it BI-PARTISAN! If the gop does not change I will never vote again.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 7:52:10 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cripplecreek

What the hell were the people thinking when the 17th was ratified? If that wasn’t the case conservative governors and state legislatures could fire McConnell and McCain and Cornyn.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 7:55:28 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cotton1706

McCain is the Left’s go to name for “Republican” anchors of “rationality”.

They loved him so much they voted for him in the 2000 GOP primary.

They even voted for him in the 2008 primary. Democrats were on McCain’s presidential campaign team as far back as 2006. Of course, after he got the GOP nomination, they switched teams to work for the Obama campaign (and knew the innerworkings and contacts within the GOP campaign).

Stalinsts lie. Always.

FUSFG


34 posted on 02/15/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

Apparently they were worried about corruption and political payoffs in electing senators. I don’t doubt that it went on but electing senators by popular vote has been a disaster.

I would rather elect senators on an electoral type of system where the winner of most districts wins


35 posted on 02/15/2014 8:02:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Travis McGee

If Johnny McInsane is unhappy that fills me with joy


36 posted on 02/15/2014 8:13:48 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: cotton1706

> “I love posting these stories because they’re a window into how these people think.”

Yes but this is San Francisco. How do people in Cincinnati or Minneapolis think?


37 posted on 02/15/2014 8:14:28 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cotton1706

“At some point in your career, you will have to choose between being someone or doing something.”


38 posted on 02/15/2014 10:01:32 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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