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My View: Block gun violence with background checks
portlandtribune.com ^ | 2/13/2014 | Jamie Henderson and Dr. James P. Scott

Posted on 02/15/2014 9:33:14 AM PST by rktman

One year after gun violence at Clackamas Town Center and in Newtown, Conn., shook communities across this nation, we have yet to settle the debate on gun safety in Salem or our nation’s capital. As we continue to mourn these tragedies, we must do more to prevent them from happening again.

We in public health are thoroughly committed to protecting the safety of our communities. The Oregon Public Health Association and the National Physicians Alliance support state and federal efforts to ensure background checks for all gun purchases. Without background checks, guns in the hands of dangerous individuals continue to threaten the safety of our communities.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; bradybunch; guncontrol; secondamendment
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Proof positive that not all MD's finish at the top of their class. Some don't finish in the middle either. Some finish near the bottom.
1 posted on 02/15/2014 9:33:14 AM PST by rktman
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And violent criminals are going to ask for permission. LOL


2 posted on 02/15/2014 9:35:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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As we continue to mourn these tragedies...

Some people just can't "MoveOn" when they have a communist/Nazi agenda.

3 posted on 02/15/2014 9:36:13 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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Both the shooter and victim in most gun homicides have criminal records. Background checks are not going to stop them. Most legal gun sales already are subject to background checks. Background checks would not have averted the mass shootings that grab the headlines. It is a pig in a poke and it infuriates the gun grabbers that the majority of Americans can see right through their B.S.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 9:37:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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5 posted on 02/15/2014 9:40:13 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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How about background checks to be able to say anything? To protest grievances? A background check to become president?

At what point does the line get drawn? Every time exactly the same place: Wherever the liberals feel that it should be drawn.

The reason for the 2nd is not just hunting, nor self defense, nor home defense, but it is the only way to ensure that people have the tools to ensure that they can continue practicing their religion, continue having their voices heard by their government, and to ensure that tyrants don't steal their rights.

Maybe the only solution at this point is to protest and demand background checks of all editorial writers. No editorials without a 15 day waiting period. Maybe by changing the focus from one right to another, we can make it clear how stupid this insanity really is. Or, if somehow we are successful, we can wipe the liberals out of the publishing business as they fail background check after background check.

6 posted on 02/15/2014 9:42:35 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Where’s the prosecution numbers for actual “positive” denials? I suppose they are so low they don’t show up on anyones’s charts huh? I seem to recall that falsifying statements on the 4473 was a federal crime. Guess not.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 9:46:35 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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Background checks did not prevent any of the recent mass shootings. In fact, all of these nut cases passed background checks, or in the case of Adam Lanza, his kooky mother passed the check.

Background checks occasionally stop someone from purchasing a weapon who cannot legally own one. However, mostly these checks just inconvenience law-abiding people and add extra cost.

A more effective deterrent is to encourage lawful gun ownership and outdoor carry. The only way to stop a nutcase with gun is for a sane armed person to use another gun to stop said nut case.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 9:46:41 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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...”the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...”


9 posted on 02/15/2014 9:48:51 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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LOLOLOLOL! Background check to become president. Looks like there was a massive fail recently. Of course if you have NO background, it’s hard to check it. Blank slate obama.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 9:49:12 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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the Constitution for the Republic of Maine states that all men between the ages of, it is still being discussed but will either be 16,17, or 18, and 65, are by law members of the Militia. The right of the Militia to be armed shall never be infringed.

This section also ends any and all abortions by stating that the age is counted from the moment of conception. So, the age will be, as it is counted here in the good ole USA, 15 and 1/4, 16 and 1/4 or 17 and 1/4.

Further the Constitution restricts the standing army to only 1,000 men, and there can be no use of the Militia outside of Maine’s borders without a 3/4 vote of the Militia.

Those wishing to be kept up to date can email FreeMaine@hushmail.com with “Add Me” in the subject line. If you are from Maine mention that in the subject line as well, you will get additional information after answering a very few non personal questions that will identify whether you are from Maine or not.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 9:52:02 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine
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CRAP! I’m over 65 so I guess I’m overqualified?


12 posted on 02/15/2014 9:53:29 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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My view: Block violent criminals with judicious application of high-speed lead.


13 posted on 02/15/2014 10:01:53 AM PST by Thane_Banquo (III%)
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In 2010, 76,142 denials were issued. 62 cases were referred for prosecution. 13 resulted in a guilty verdict or plea. There was no mention of what actual penalties were rendered.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 10:02:08 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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A background check to become president?

Finally, a background check i can support

15 posted on 02/15/2014 10:04:34 AM PST by beebuster2000
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Universal background checks followed by universal registration followed by confiscation. I’m sure the criminals will be following the law.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 10:08:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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...we have yet to settle the debate on gun safety in Salem or our nation’s capital.

No, there is no debate on "gun safety" - no one is saying "gee, I'd like more accidents, more mayhem." The debate or contention is over violence. It isn't "gun violence" it is violence, the weapon is just the tool. Ignorant liberals and fascists each (for their own reasons) want to remove the tool. That approach has been tried and has a 100% failure rate at actually reducing violence.

We in public health are thoroughly committed to protecting the safety of our communities.

Ah, then you are pro-firearm, and all for private ownership and CC - right? Because that approach has demonstrated results at reducing violence.

The Oregon Public Health Association and the National Physicians Alliance support state and federal efforts to ensure background checks for all gun purchases. Without background checks, guns in the hands of dangerous individuals continue to threaten the safety of our communities.

I see. What you really want is background checks on all firearms sales - including private transfers, right? Wrong. That will not work. You don't think criminals obtain firearms illegally already? You think maybe this might just increase an already tremendously lucrative black market for firearms? Do you really think requiring a background check for a private transfer will stop the illegal sales? Hey doc, if that'll work, lets just pass a law saying all private drug transactions have to happen at a pharmacy with a doctor's prescription. Same thing. Think that'd stop the illegal drug trade? {snort} Of course not. What makes you think background checks would stop illegal arms transfers? Doc, you're not the brightest bulb on the string, are you...

17 posted on 02/15/2014 10:08:50 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Whew, for a second there I thought they were all getting off scot free. (Is that racist? Against Scots?)


18 posted on 02/15/2014 10:09:53 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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I don’t trust the government. They say they want background checks to ensure that the wrong people don’t get guns. Yet the type and serial number of the gun is added to the form. What does that have to do with my qualification to own a gun? I know it’s just a time saver for when they decide to confiscate guns. There is no doubt in my mind that taking away our guns is the final goal and all this other stuff is just intermediate steps in the process.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 10:15:42 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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to ensure background checks for all gun purchases.

How are they going to ensure checks for illegal gun purchases, which is where most of the shooting deaths arise? They can't even stop illegal drug transactions.

20 posted on 02/15/2014 10:17:43 AM PST by expat2
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