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A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy
The Fresno Bee ^ | February 13, 2014 | Thomas J. Donohue, president & CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Posted on 02/15/2014 2:28:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In a global economy, investment follows talent. When we draw top talent to our shores, investment dollars follow because companies want to be near the best workers.

An infusion of capital and economic development will be a tide that lifts all boats, creating jobs and opportunity for all Americans.

But the reverse is also true. If companies can't find talent on U.S. soil, or if it becomes too costly and burdensome, they will move their operations elsewhere. It's in our own best interests to welcome the world's brightest minds and hardest workers into our economy.

Immigrants can help bridge a growing skills gap in science, technology, engineering and math - the so-called STEM fields that are vital to a modern, competitive economy.

More than half of the master's and doctoral students studying the natural sciences and engineering disciplines at U.S. colleges and universities are from foreign countries.

Meanwhile, the number of American students studying STEM disciplines is growing at less than 1 percent per year. By 2018, there will be 230,000 unfilled positions requiring advanced STEM degrees, even if every U.S. STEM grad finds a job.

Many of our fastest-growing industries require advanced skills and higher education beyond a bachelor's degree - 22 percent of new job openings through 2020 will require at least a master's degree.

Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 2:28:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We do not have a booming economy at present. This article stinks like propaganda.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 2:31:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....

ROTFL! That's some funny stuff.

3 posted on 02/15/2014 2:32:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: SatinDoll

Only the Wash DC metro area is booming, sadly.
And a few oil boom locations.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 2:33:27 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: SatinDoll; 2ndDivisionVet

The problem in California right now is that Mexico pushed their underclass north to california where they are a dead drain on the economy there.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 2:34:20 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought the argument was to legalize the ones here then seal the border. Seems the argument has evolved. Now we need to accept a “steady flow”. My resolve just got firmer.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 2:35:17 PM PST by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pure BS and lies.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 2:35:47 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: nascarnation

Texas is doing fine. Not as good as we probably would with a conservative in the executive mansion, but not bad, over all. There are plenty of jobs, real estate and rental prices are relatively low, etc...


8 posted on 02/15/2014 2:38:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our current economy stinks so bad that the uneducated and unskilled illegal aliens are leaving. There is nothing happening now to draw talented legal immigrants in significant numbers.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 2:40:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Under our broken system,”

Should read, “because we are no longer a Nation that enforces its existing laws,”


10 posted on 02/15/2014 2:42:32 PM PST by jcon40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think they’re settling for 29 pieces of silver, if necessary.

Would they be interested in John Boehner’s job?


11 posted on 02/15/2014 2:42:42 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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12 posted on 02/15/2014 2:43:13 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....

If true, it's only because the US gave preference to the foreign born over Americans. Any American kid trying to get in medical school even 25 years ago, knows that. They can take their propaganda and stuff it.

13 posted on 02/15/2014 2:44:12 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perfect.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 2:46:31 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy


NOT if givernment activity and taxes suck all the air out of the economy..


15 posted on 02/15/2014 2:46:43 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti American Bigotry

Illegal Aliens, and all immigrants, contribute zero unless they bring in their own money and spend it in America. You do not create wealth from nothing

Amazed how folks have aero clue how a national economy works


16 posted on 02/15/2014 2:46:57 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

UM...what IS the unemployment rate? HOW many people are on welfare, food stamps, etc. who COULD work?


17 posted on 02/15/2014 2:47:30 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Chamber of Crony Capitalism comes out with a BS straw-man argument.

I’m willing to bet a miniscule percentage of those foreign born with masters, professional and doctorates are illegals.

Seal the borders. The immigration issue is only broken as far as we don’t enforce existing laws. We don’t need some stinkin’ “comprehensive plan.”


18 posted on 02/15/2014 2:47:32 PM PST by A message
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

~~~Thomas J. Donohue, president & CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce.~~~

Ah, it’s written by this particular political whore:

Chamber CEO: U.S. Needs More Low-Skill Immigration Since Americans Are Not ‘Qualified” or ‘Willing’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3122860/posts


19 posted on 02/15/2014 2:48:04 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“president & CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce. “

Yup. The same clown outfit who advocates open mass illegals immigration. I knew this crap piece was all BS propaganda.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 2:48:18 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....

That is pretty funny and it demonstrates the kind of math skills to be found in the WH and from other 0bama sycophants. In the equation the group being measured is ...

...those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees...

It is stated that 10.6% of that group are foreign born and 8.5% are native-born. Who comprises the other 80.9% of the group? Time travelers from the future who have not been born yet?

21 posted on 02/15/2014 2:49:31 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A steady flow of unskilled welfare hounds and can destroy the society.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 2:50:01 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, why is the Southern Border open to uneducated peons fleeing a poor National culture?


23 posted on 02/15/2014 2:51:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: TigersEye
economy stinks so bad that the uneducated and unskilled illegal aliens are leaving

And the Mexican economy is actually doing steadily better. As our economy slides into the abyss and the Mexican economy improves, the illegal immigration problem just might sort itself out. Or 21st Century Okies just might pack up and head for Mexico.

24 posted on 02/15/2014 2:52:57 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is the Chamber. Screw you and the Rove, Ryan and McGraham RINO asshats.


25 posted on 02/15/2014 2:53:26 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: A message
I’m willing to bet a miniscule percentage of those foreign born with masters, professional and doctorates are illegals.

The only foreign born professional who are also illegal aliens are lawyers in California. And we sure have a shortage of lawyers here. We need more illegal alien lawyers to put all the native born lawyers out on the street. That's the ticket.

26 posted on 02/15/2014 2:54:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I’ve worked in mixed corporate teams made up of Americans + (legal, professional) foreign-born members

and also with

American-only corporate teams.

The former kicked the butts of the latter EVERY TIME, and made me much more money in sales commissions.

This was particularly true when a gnarled problem rose, and we needed solutions from outside-the-box.

And that doesn’t count worldwide sales calls, where faces from ALL OVER THE WORLD help sell products to people from ALL OVER THE WORLD.

Provincialism = ignorance.

/and, yes, the 1%’ers are deliberately importing millions of peasants, and our own peasants are accepting the situation passively.
//Halluluia! My days of working as a roofer ended long ago!


27 posted on 02/15/2014 2:55:54 PM PST by warchild9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will say that frequently, I find hard working and industrious immigrants vastly more desirable than the entitled lumps of flesh that many “real” Americans have become.

sadly, the American dream is all too frequently practiced by people that were born elsewhere.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 2:56:24 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: ThanhPhero

Well, yes, if our economy continues on a downward spiral that will definitely solve the illegal alien problem. That might make sense as a stratagem of policy in Progressive circles. I can only hope that the Republicans will think of something a little better. lol


29 posted on 02/15/2014 2:58:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born,

If we stopped immigration those with degrees would be 100% native born.

We are not a nation of immigrants. Colonists and pioneers carved this nation out of the wilderness with their bare hands. Immigrants showed up later.

30 posted on 02/15/2014 2:59:07 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's in our own best interests to welcome the world's brightest minds and hardest workers into our economy.

... the elephant in the room being that Americans, apparently, are no longer the brightest minds and hardest workers. That's the problem that should be addressed, in my opinion.

31 posted on 02/15/2014 3:02:58 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would talented foreigners come here? In there home countries, they’re not expected to support a large number of idlers and moochers.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 3:18:28 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

um... they also use up our limited amount of resources like water, electricity, and gas. The average person drinks 182 gallons of water a year. There are an estimated 20 million illegals in the US.

Which means they are drinking 3 BILLION 640 million gallons of water a year.

but... that’s just DRINKING water.. they also use water for dishes, toilets, baths, ect

The average person uses a total of 100 gallons of water a day.

So lets do some math... 100 gallons * 365 days = 36,500 gallons per year PER illegal alien.

20 million X 36500 = 7300000000000 that’s 7 TRILLION 300 billion gallons of fresh water a year....

there are 39 trillion gallons of water in lake Tahoe... which means the illegals here are drinking lake Tahoe every 5 years or so.

Think about that the next time the government puts you on water restrictions or wont let farmers water their crops.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 3:23:54 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ESAD Tommy.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 3:25:06 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“We are not a nation of immigrants. Colonists and pioneers carved this nation out of the wilderness with their bare hands. Immigrants showed up later.”

If the immigrants who “showed up” between 1890 and 1940 hadn’t “showed up”, you would have been writing that in German or Japanese.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 3:26:37 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yehh, if we seal off the border we risk stopping the flow of all of those Mexican scientists, engineers, medical researchers, and technological innovators who have been streaming across the border.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:13 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess we working class citizens should just settle for depressed wages and fewer opportunities to make way for people who broke into our county, broke our laws, undermined our economy, defrauded our social services, and conspire to sidestep our taxing authorities.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 3:29:22 PM PST by VTenigma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy,

Cool. So when can we ease the restrictions on Western European immigration so we can start bringing in all of those culturally compatible German scientists and British mathematicians we need?

Didn't think so...

38 posted on 02/15/2014 3:30:28 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
2 words:

Drug gangs.

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39 posted on 02/15/2014 3:32:06 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here they are, a horde of talented and industrious immigrants ready to stimulate the economy.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:07 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there are literally MILLIONS of talented, qualified American citizens who are available right now, right here... to “fuel a booming economy” .....

we won’t have anything like that, however, until at least after 2016, for obvious reasons...

(then we’ll see what we get...)


41 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:44 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Immigrants who come here legally and perform honest labor with whatever skill level they have to offer are not a problem.
People like that ought to be welcome anywhere in the world.
It's the freeloaders, criminals, ILLEGALS and the politicians who use them for their own ends, that are the problem.

42 posted on 02/15/2014 3:41:28 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yea, if their LEGAL!!


43 posted on 02/15/2014 3:54:05 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“””A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy”””

Study: 70% of Texas’ illegal immigrant families receive welfare

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/04/study-70-of-texas-illegal-immigrant-families-receive-welfare/

_____________________________________________________________

Lies and deceit


44 posted on 02/15/2014 4:04:38 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeminoleCounty

According to the CoC one immigrant will create six American jobs, guess Juan the Gardner will create six high paying jobs once we give him amnesty. ARE WE SIX YEARS OLD. THESE BIG GOV BIG BUSINESS TYPES REALLY MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL. I HOPE OWS STORMS THEIR HOMES WITH TORCH AND HOODS.


45 posted on 02/15/2014 4:05:10 PM PST by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: Lizavetta

What part of the country do you live in? Live where everyone is foreign born and the deterioration of the health care system, education and business slaps you in the face. Language issues, cultural issues and and ethic of saying something true or not with a straight face.

Americans not willing to work? Think that urban legend passed around by the slave traders.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 4:15:00 PM PST by amihow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If companies can't find talent on U.S. soil, or if it becomes too costly and burdensome, they will move their operations elsewhere

Studying STEM in college giving up you social life in you prime, and expecting decent compensation upon graduation is just to much of a burden on society.

H1B is gloBULLism at it's worst.

47 posted on 02/15/2014 4:19:52 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: F15Eagle

We have Americans now with multiple graduate and professional degrees and licenses...and excellent work histories...unemployed without even opportunities for interviews, more or less meaningful employment.

I am not against immigrants but now with the Obama Great Depression is definitely NOT the time we need more immigrants “to fuel our booming economy”.... if more workers should ever be needed, they are right here right now, ...ready, willing, and able to do the job and do it well.

just saying, this article is krap


48 posted on 02/15/2014 4:27:27 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some men just want to watch the economy go “BOOM!”.


49 posted on 02/15/2014 4:30:11 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Whatever the CoC is for I am against.


50 posted on 02/15/2014 4:30:15 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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