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Scholars say Eleanor Roosevelt Was the Best First Lady, Michelle Obama Comes In 5th
Montreal Gazette ^ | February 15, 2014 | AP

Posted on 02/15/2014 3:04:02 PM PST by lbryce

A survey of academics has found that Eleanor Roosevelt was the nation's best first lady. Michelle Obama ranks fifth.

The findings from the Siena College/C-SPAN poll were released Saturday.

Hillary Clinton dropped from fourth to sixth since the last survey in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at montrealgazette.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicbias; cspan; demagogicparty; firstlady; memebuilding; michelle; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory; scholiar; sienacollege
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A survey of academics not unlike an asylum of newspaper reporters ....demonstrates right there the basis for this survey being as legitimate as Barry Sotero's birth certificate.

Upon hearing that Michelle was chosen as the fifth Best Lady, Obama reflexively responded with, "that ain't no lady, it's the woman I arranged this sham marriage with to hide the fact that I'm gay".

Reasons why survey is a total farce.
*Article is written by the AP. Strike 1.
*That they equate scholars with academics .Strike 2
*Three of the top Five First Ladies are Democrats, Abigail Adams, Dolly Madison both politically anachronistic.Strike 3
*The mere fact that Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama appear in the top 5 as we know them to be is reason enough to disparage the survey. Strike 4.
*Siena College as the source of the survey is notorious for being left-wing. Strike 5
*Sotero's status as decidedly non-eligible as President has her showing up even as the Worst First Lady is moot.Strike 6
*Name one item of First Lady-type behavior that would have Michelle eligible to be included on the list. Strike 7

The Siena Research Insititute’s Lousy Independence Day Gift: Misleading, Biased and Incompetent Presidential Rankings

1 posted on 02/15/2014 3:04:02 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

I never knew an “academic” that knew much about the real world……..


2 posted on 02/15/2014 3:06:02 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: lbryce

The reason Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton are on the list is because the “scholars” questioned have no idea who the First Ladies were before Jackie Kennedy. Although it appears that they watched enough movies to know who Eleanor Roosevelt was.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 3:06:53 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: basil

“Academic” is just a polite way that communists/marxists describe themselves.Spawn of Satan is a more accurate way of describing them in my opinion.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 3:09:03 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: lbryce

I always knew she was very liberal but I saw a show on maybe
“The History Channel” maybe somewhere else that made me think she was an outright communist.

I think Hillary is too. I think Michelle probably doesn’t know what she is.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 3:09:53 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: lbryce
The best first lady was James Buchanan's wife.

He was a bachelor (smart man).

8 posted on 02/15/2014 3:11:50 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: lbryce

In my opinion, the best First Lady would be one that almost no one knows who they are.

Can they not just be the wife of the president, rather than undertaking some great ‘social cause’ that virtually no one seriously gives a damn about?

The only true accomplishment of our current First Lady is making already bad government school meals, even worse... Ironically, she’s apparently obsessed with kids not having an ass as big as her own.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 3:12:13 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: yarddog

Truth be told, Eleanor is the one who set a precedent for a meddling First lady.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 3:17:09 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: BatGuano

Mayeb they have a fascination since after all, none of them have Presidents or First Ladies, they have the British royals.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 3:17:45 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: lbryce

MoocHell Obama is not a real “First Lady” in any case. The best that she could hope for is “First INGRATE”. The sooner that her fat arse is moved out of that “Fancy Prison” that she calls OUR White House, the better.


13 posted on 02/15/2014 3:18:17 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: lbryce

The best first lady is one who, while fleeing for their dear life, sees fit to at least save the WH portrait of George Washington.

Can you imagine the Mooch saving that portrait? The “all for a little flag” woman would probably burn it.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 3:22:15 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: lbryce

Even though their husbands weren’t the best Presidents, I always admired Barbara and Laura Bush. They brought class to the White House. Unfortunately, that class disappeared with the First Thug and his home girl.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 3:24:10 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: lbryce

Scholars from where?


17 posted on 02/15/2014 3:25:18 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: lbryce

Laura Bush, imo, was the perfect First Lady.

She had style. She was independent of her husband’s responsibilities yet supportive. She loved the American people. She was also very friendly, yet mature.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 3:26:02 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: lbryce
I am not a Canadian citizen have neither love nor hate for the country. To be fair, this survey, whatever you derive out of it has nothing to do with Canada, is not reason to disparage Canada. God knows they've got plenty of other reasons for that.

I saw this article and thinking it as post-worthy and put it up.

The Montreal Gazette is one of 667,000 news sources that picked up the AP story from across the World and the US on the Siena College survey, the college located in Loudonville, New York.

19 posted on 02/15/2014 3:26:06 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Actually, I think Mamie Eisenhower may have been one of the best. As I remember, she behaved with dignity, but never tried to interfere in politics. Which is as it should be.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 3:28:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CorporateStepsister
Truth be told, Eleanor is the one who set a precedent for a meddling First lady.

No, that would be Woodrow Wilson's second wife, who married him after his first wife conveniently died, took him from Pacifist to Hawk, got the US into the European war and who usurped power after he was conveniently disabled.

21 posted on 02/15/2014 3:32:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: lbryce

I like first ladies or first gentlemen who blend into the background. They should have useful, but not political causes, like disabled vets or sick children. They shouldn’t do things like hang condoms on the White House Christmas tree, or spend fortunes on extravagance. They should show a little respect for the American people, at least giving the pretense of feeling grateful and honored to be where they are, not acting like some kind of celebrity pop star to be adored by fans.

Michelle is an insecure cow who isn’t comfortable in her own skin, and she tries to overcome that by extravagance. Nothing could possibly make her look better, not even following her own dietary advise. A real man might help her gain a little self respect and confidence, but she is unlikely to get help from her effeminate faggot.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:08 PM PST by pallis
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To: lbryce

I am very glad Dolly made the list because she invented ice cream. To me that is an outstanding event, much more important than trying to starve kids the way Michelle is doing.


23 posted on 02/15/2014 3:33:34 PM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: lbryce

Martha Washington was certainly one of the best. She worked tirelessly to help the Revolutionary troops and wounded; and also hosted visiting dignitaries virtually every evening of her husband’s residence at Mount Vernon, where the Founding was discussed endlessly. She also ran his large plantation and export business during the many times he was away as a General or as President.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 3:37:19 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: lbryce

eh? best at what!?! looking ugly?


25 posted on 02/15/2014 3:37:39 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The “scholars” chose Dolly Madison because of the delicious pastries she invented and Abigail Adams because the name sounds “kewl”.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 3:39:00 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: KoRn

Yes, and this is why most people can only go back about half a dozen. Up until the post-war years very few first ladies were well known. Mary Todd Lincoln was considered by most people of the time as bat-poo crazy. We really ought to grateful for Edith Wilson; she turned out to be a much better president than her husband. Bess Truman is best known for teaching her husband to say “manure”. Betty Ford, Pat Nixon, and Nancy Reagan (sorry, I know Ronnie loved her), well, as Mom told me, “If you can’t say something nice...”.

So, your first sentence really sums it up, KoRn. Thank you.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 3:40:30 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: basil
A survey of LIBERAL academics has found....

There, fixed it.

28 posted on 02/15/2014 3:40:47 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: basil

>> I never knew an “academic” that knew much about the real world……..

Or sympathetic to communism.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 3:42:00 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Thumper1960
The “scholars” chose Dolly Madison because of the delicious pastries she invented and Abigail Adams because the name sounds “kewl”.

Dolly Madison was known as a fashion plate, and imported many gowns from Europe, like Jackie. Gosh, what an accomplishment — not. However, after Madison's death she lost the beautiful Virginia estate home where her husband wrote the draft of the Consitution, because one of her sons was a substance abuser and she indulged him. A foundation has only recently acquired the property and has been rehabilitating it.

Abigail Adams was an early feminist. So there you have that.

30 posted on 02/15/2014 3:45:42 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: lbryce

In my lifetime, the presidents I remember (I don’t remember Truman, my first president) were married to Mamie Eisenhower, Jackie Kennedy, Lady Bird Johnson, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Michelle Obama.

Eisenhower was a good officer’s wife.
Kennedy was discreet.
Lady Bird was awkward
Pat was dignified
Betty was troubled
Rosalyn was supportive
Nancy was a flake
Barbara was insightful
Hillary was scheming
Laura was outreaching
Michelle was background

If I had to pick one that would fit in as a ceremonial head of state, I’d pick Barbara Bush. Just my humble opinion.


31 posted on 02/15/2014 3:46:06 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: lbryce

What a disgrace to say that Roosevelt, Moose and Slick Willie’s wife can even come close to Abigail Adams. This “poll” is FOS.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 3:46:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Albion Wilde

Consitution = Constitution


33 posted on 02/15/2014 3:46:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Scaring the crap out of small children would be my guess.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 3:47:20 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: PAR35

Exactly. Edith Wilson was effectively President for at least the last two years of Wilson’s term, a story that deserves much more attention.

The press seems to have mostly covered it up then.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 3:47:43 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: PAR35

Good catch!


36 posted on 02/15/2014 3:48:24 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: lbryce

Eleanor Roosevelt was a communist sow. Apologies to swine worldwide.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 3:50:46 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Jonty30
OK FOLKS, HERE'S A QUIZ:

FIRST: Read the excerpt from the article (below)

"The findings from the Siena College/C-SPAN poll were released Saturday.
Hillary Clinton dropped from fourth to sixth since the last survey in 2008.
Abigail Adams kept her second place standing, and Jacqueline Kennedy retained third place. Dolley Madison was fourth.
Clinton is seen as the former first lady with the most presidential potential.

NOW - Fill in the blank:

Of the top five First Ladies, number one was __________________

38 posted on 02/15/2014 3:51:29 PM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: elkfersupper
The best first lady was James Buchanan's wife.

He was a bachelor (smart man).

But it's fair to say that Buchanan's First Lady was one of the very best—they say she was the first woman to be referred to by that title. Her name was Harriet Lane, and she was his niece. She was well educated, graceful, stylish, and knowledgeable about manners and protocol from the time she spent handling social matters for Buchanan when he was Ambassador to the Court of St. James. She was notably adept at keeping the peace at White House dinners by managing the seating arrangements carefully—for instance not seating political enemies next to each other.

She later married well and died wealthy, leaving money to what would become Johns Hopkins Medical Center and bequeathing paintings to what was later called the Smithsonian Museum—oh, and she insisted a statue of Buchanan be built in Washington, and it was, over the objections of sniffy northern Senators.

39 posted on 02/15/2014 3:53:56 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: ProudFossil

I’ve always said Dolly was my favorite because of ice cream too.

I love ice cream!


40 posted on 02/15/2014 3:57:11 PM PST by Gefn (No whammies)
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To: Jonty30

Amen, amen and AMEN!

Laura Bush was the quintessential First Lady. All others pale by comparison.

What a class act!


41 posted on 02/15/2014 3:58:28 PM PST by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: Baynative

I had a good laugh when I read what was considered in the poll.

• Background
• Integrity
• Value to the country
• Leadership
• Being the White House Steward
• Being her own woman
• Courage
• Public image
• Accomplishments
• Value to the President

Michelle Obama must be outstanding in being her own woman, because she sucks rocks on every other category.


42 posted on 02/15/2014 3:59:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: jeffc

True, quite true but “LIBERAL academics” is a redundancy.


43 posted on 02/15/2014 4:00:00 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Walrus

Anyone who supports butchering unborn babies is anything but a class act. Same for her Mother-in-Law.


44 posted on 02/15/2014 4:00:06 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: lbryce

What kind of scholars decided this?


45 posted on 02/15/2014 4:00:32 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: basil
MOST surveys and polls are STARTED by people with their agenda to confirm.
SO they CHOOSE people for their polls who are likely to agree with them. That's been done for eons. It is really ALL bogus for people who are just plain STUPID.
46 posted on 02/15/2014 4:01:16 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: lbryce

Fatbutt Obama #5. Nope, she is #1 is SPENDING TAX PAYER MONEY. Otherwise, she is a loud mouth #*^&@^E@&^$.


47 posted on 02/15/2014 4:01:29 PM PST by RetiredArmy (God's judgment on America is here for us to see. If America does not wake up, it is going to suffer)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“eh? best at what!?! looking ugly?”

And as the drunk said, “But I’ll be sober in the morning.”


48 posted on 02/15/2014 4:02:48 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Albion Wilde

“Abigail Adams was an early feminist.”

But in a good way. One of my favorite books is, “Those Who Love”, her biography by Irving Stone. Much of it is taken from letters between her and John. She was one tough lady, holding the home together for years at a time during his travels abroad, doing manual labor like a field hand, etc. And his melancholy personality would’ve been a bitch to live with. I admire her.

I think she’d have been better paired with Samuel Adams than John.


49 posted on 02/15/2014 4:05:04 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Jonty30
Thanks for posting. The qualifications for consideration offers an excellent perspective in which to realize how skewed these people are making the decisions they did.

These polls produced by colleges such as Siena are great tools in which to make chances of government largesse to the school much greater.

50 posted on 02/15/2014 4:06:20 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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