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Kansas City’s sky-high murder rate defies easy explanation
Kansas City Star ^ | February 15 | Editorial

Posted on 02/15/2014 9:35:14 PM PST by Graybeard58

Year after year, Kansas City has one of the highest murder rates in America.

But why?

As The Star’s Editorial Board embarks on a closer examination of the homicide issue in 2014, it’s crucial to first review figures regarding some of the usual suspects — such as racial demographics and poverty rates — often labeled as contributing factors behind violent crimes.

The frustrating conclusion: There’s no clear demographic or economic explanation for why Kansas Citians too often kill each other.

Here’s a deeper look at reported murder rates for the 50 largest U.S. cities in 2012, the last full year available from the FBI, plus 2010 data from the U.S. Census Bureau for minority populations and poverty rates. All 50 cities had populations of 360,000 or more.

• Kansas City had 22.6 murders per 100,000 residents — or 105 deaths in a city of just over 460,000.

That was the fifth bloodiest count in the country, behind only Oakland (31.8), Baltimore (34.9), New Orleans (53.2) and Detroit (54.6). (See chart.)

On the other end of the scale, the best 10 cities had murder rates of 4.6 per 100,000 people or less. The top three were Mesa, Ariz., (3.1), Portland (3.3) and El Paso (3.4).

A note about St. Louis: Its homicide rate was staggeringly high — 35.5 per 100,000 — but the city no longer is among the nation’s 50 largest.

• Kansas City had the 13th highest percentage of black residents — 29.9 percent.

The statistics for all 50 large cities do show a correlation between murder rates and black populations.

Seven of the 10 worst cities for murders also ranked in the top 10 for percentages of black residents

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Kansas; US: Missouri
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 9:35:14 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Ya all ever been to Kansas City?

‘Nuff said.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 9:38:38 PM PST by proudpapa (Scott Walker - 2016)
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To: Graybeard58

“Seven of the 10 worst cities for murders also ranked in the top 10 for percentages of black residents”

No! Really?,,,,,,,Duh,,,,,.....


3 posted on 02/15/2014 9:39:47 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Graybeard58

Crazy Women?


4 posted on 02/15/2014 9:42:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Graybeard58
"A note about St. Louis: Its homicide rate was staggeringly high — 35.5 per 100,000 — but the city no longer is among the nation’s 50 largest. "

How's E. St. Louie doin'?

5 posted on 02/15/2014 9:43:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"A note about St. Louis: Its homicide rate was staggeringly high — 35.5 per 100,000 — but the city no longer is among the nation’s 50 largest. "

How's E. St. Louie doin'?

With a population of 26,708 I doubt that East St. Louis ranks in the largest thousand cities in the U.S.

6 posted on 02/15/2014 9:47:34 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. F.D.R.)
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To: Paladin2

E. St. Louie is doing well in the killing category. Run by Democrats, as usual.

KC (say wasn’t that one of Kathleen’s cities?) has always had a problem and it wasn’t with the Amish.

Look at who has run the listed cities for the past 30 years.

As Paul Harvey used to say, “Now you know the whole story”.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 9:48:01 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Graybeard58

A Generation ago, the local newspapers in KC would report Mafia Murders separate from other murders.

When did the papers stop reporting Mafia Murders as Mafia Murders?


8 posted on 02/15/2014 9:51:35 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graybeard58

It’s sad that this reporter is “stumped” as to the causes of all this violence.

But to admit to the reasons, and ask those tough questions, would mean embarrassing Democrats, and the black/Hispanic communities.

And as you all realize by now, that simply cannot be allowed, no matter what the cost.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 9:59:27 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Graybeard58

Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Mo???


10 posted on 02/15/2014 10:01:40 PM PST by Wuli
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To: proudpapa

I know of one incident which involved my cousin years ago. She was dating a D1 linebacker and they stopped at a gas station to fill up. Went inside to pay up and took 15 minutes due to the boyfriends credit card fouling up at the machine. Once they got out, they saw 4 black guys trying to steal the car. Kansas city..


11 posted on 02/15/2014 10:03:16 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Wuli

Must be Kansas because it’s the Kansas city star.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 10:04:10 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Graybeard58

Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Mo???, or combined??


13 posted on 02/15/2014 10:09:36 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Graybeard58
From a Time article,

"Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men."

The author of this Kanaas City Star article obviously didn't dig very deep.

14 posted on 02/15/2014 10:11:02 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Usagi_yo; Wuli

Kansas City, Mo. is about 4 times the population of K.C., Kansas and the Kansas City Star is located in Missouri.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 10:11:30 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. F.D.R.)
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To: proudpapa

“Ya all ever been to Kansas City?”

No, but I’ve heard they’ve got some crazy little women there;)


16 posted on 02/15/2014 10:11:43 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Graybeard58

Crack cocaine or crystal meth, like all cities with high murder rates, is probably an easy enough explanation.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 10:14:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Usagi_yo

The home office of the Kansas City Star is in Kansas City, Missouri; but the only thing separating it from Kansas City, Kansas is a river, but both cities go right up to the river’s edge as if one city - though, the Kansas City, Missouri side always seemmed the less prospoerous side to me.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 10:14:57 PM PST by Wuli
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To: All

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19 posted on 02/15/2014 10:15:32 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("It's not a good time for me right now" -- http://therealwendy.com/)
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To: Graybeard58

obamaville


20 posted on 02/15/2014 10:16:44 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Graybeard58

Hmm, what do all these places have in common?


21 posted on 02/15/2014 10:27:55 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Paladin2

“Odds of falling victim to a violent crime in East St. Louis were a frightening 1 in 17. Odds of falling victim to either a violent crime or a property-related crime were an even more disheartening 1 in 7. On top of these numbers, residents of East St. Louis were more likely than residents of nearly any other city on this list to have their car stolen (with the exception of Detroit), with a 1 in 64 chance of being victim of car theft.”


22 posted on 02/15/2014 10:31:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Doogle

Yo. Yoots.


23 posted on 02/15/2014 10:43:59 PM PST by 867V309 (Obammy = LIAR)
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To: proudpapa
Ya all ever been to Kansas City? ‘Nuff said.

Just like any other city, there are certain areas where most of the murders take place.

24 posted on 02/15/2014 10:55:52 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: AZLiberty

Amazingly he got this part — shocking because the KC Star has been a McClatchy leftist rag for some period of time.

~~~ Kansas City had the 13th highest percentage of black residents — 29.9 percent.

The statistics for all 50 large cities do show a correlation between murder rates and black populations.

Seven of the 10 worst cities for murders also ranked in the top 10 for percentages of black residents~~~


25 posted on 02/15/2014 11:01:33 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Wuli

There were far more companies located in KCMO than KCKS.

Not even close.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 11:09:52 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Graybeard58

Caused by Hope, Change and Meth.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 11:14:19 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Graybeard58
A note about St. Louis: Its homicide rate was staggeringly high — 35.5 per 100,000 — but the city no longer is among the nation’s 50 largest.

Maybe due to residents being killed?

28 posted on 02/15/2014 11:50:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Wuli; Usagi_yo
The corporate HQ building for the online “Star” is in Missouri.

And, the Black ethnic statistics they quote are for Kansas City, MO, too.

However, the ethnic statistics for K.C., Kansas are even more dangerous than K.C., Missouri.

The Kansas side is 60% non-white, with almost a 30%-30% split for Blacks and Hispanics.

I'm wondering if K.C., Missouri gets a lot of “Homicide Tourists” from its Kansas side neighbors?

29 posted on 02/16/2014 12:17:07 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

I looked at all the “reply’s” and saw they were from Kansas ... go figure.


30 posted on 02/16/2014 12:56:52 AM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Graybeard58; All

Blacks = High murder rates


31 posted on 02/16/2014 2:30:08 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: AZLiberty

I don’t think there’s ever been an expectation that journalist = deep thinker, except among themselves. As others have noted in the thread, anybody who has spent more than 15 minutes in the KC Metro knows the exact reason, as contained the Time article you linked and quoted. It’s not rocket surgery, as they say...


32 posted on 02/16/2014 2:50:11 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Paladin2

HA HA, very good. Could be a contributing factor I suppose.


33 posted on 02/16/2014 3:43:42 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Graybeard58

Where’s ARGUS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13BahrdkMU8


34 posted on 02/16/2014 4:28:32 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Graybeard58
FYI:

To compare U. S. cities with one troubled African location, lhe Johannesburg/Pretoria Gauteng Province murder rate declined from 83 per 100K in 1995 to 30 per 100K in 2011, a change of 53 in 16 years.

Maybe we ought to find out what caused that dramatic decrease?

Gun control? Spear control? /s

35 posted on 02/16/2014 4:29:11 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Graybeard58

Gee...Oakland, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, KC....all Amish strongholds. What could possibly explain the killings? Then pollsters wonder why there is zero credibility for the media these days.


36 posted on 02/16/2014 4:39:58 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Wuli

The Metro area is basically three pretty distinct areas. KCMO, KCKS, and Johnson County. They are physically close but worlds apart.


37 posted on 02/16/2014 4:41:47 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Graybeard58

You can practically see the author of this idiocy shaking his head vigorously and gritting his teeth while trying not to write what EVERYONE knows is the answer to his question.

Painfully obvious vs. political correctness....PC wins!


38 posted on 02/16/2014 4:48:51 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Wuli; Usagi_yo
Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Mo???

Mo.

39 posted on 02/16/2014 4:51:04 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: tcrlaf

The reporter is not “stumped” as to the cause/reason for the killings. He or she is hoping that they can “stump” you as to the cause/reason for the killings.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 4:52:49 AM PST by sport
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To: Paladin2

East St. Louis is a very small town, with a crime rate all out of porportion to it’s size, population wise.


41 posted on 02/16/2014 5:01:03 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit. F.D.R.)
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To: Graybeard58
Kansas City’s sky-high murder rate defies easy explanation

Lie #1

There’s no clear demographic or economic explanation for why Kansas Citians too often kill each other.

Lie #2

Kansas City had the 13th highest percentage of black residents — 29.9 percent.

Omission or Lie #3

What % of murders and or violent crime is committed by that 29.9 %

42 posted on 02/16/2014 5:08:44 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Wuli

Misery NOT Ks!


43 posted on 02/16/2014 5:47:14 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Wuli
Nope. Figures are for MO side of State Line.

KS side probably not all that great but much, much smaller population, more industrial.

44 posted on 02/16/2014 5:49:38 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Paladin2

Went through E. St. Louis back in ‘98. Block after block of empty store fronts, an economic dead zone. I wonder if it has improved.


45 posted on 02/16/2014 6:01:16 AM PST by csvset
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Kathleen was Gov. of Kansas!

What is it with you people? There is a medium sized city called Kansas City, Missouri. Kansas City (sometimes referred to as KC) sits on the western edge of the State of Missouri, with St. Louis in the eastern side.

On the Illinois side, there is a tiny town called East St. Louis, whereas on the Kansas side, there is another tiny town called Kansas City, Kansas.

Missouri is probably purple with a very blue Governor but both St. Louis and Kansas City, are very blue, with mostly black City Councils and both ruined perfectly good school districts by Federal judges ordering State of Missouri to pay tax $$$$ to both districts to make up for "discrimination," both districts are unable to meet accreditation, so "graduate's" diplomas aren't worth the paper they're written in! Sadly for parents and students, both school districts refuse to allow students tax dollars to transfer out of the schools where they are trapped.

Lastly, MO is run by unions, Kansas is Republican run and right-to-work, union free, except government unions (city, county, state workers and if course teachers unions, but KS schools are tops in nation!)

46 posted on 02/16/2014 6:11:50 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Graybeard58

A person can’t fix stupid. If the writer would take his head out of his .... he could plainly see the problem.


47 posted on 02/16/2014 6:13:46 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Graybeard58

Should be easy to figure out. There is one government-designated victim group that is given special privileges, free money, and a free pass to commit crime. This group is not known for its high IQ or job productivity. The logical conclusion is that it will commit more crime than normal people.


48 posted on 02/16/2014 6:15:53 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Graybeard58

A large portion of Kansas City, Missouri south of downtown and eastward can be dangerous. Much of Kansas City, Kansas is dangerous. North of the river & areas west and south on the Missouri side are nice. Most of the suburbs are nice. Grandview still suffers from a post Plaza flood relocation program. Not really the safe mid-western city some would expect. In the city’s core mid-western values don’t reside. Just like most large US cities there is a large and dangerous urban core where welfare, drugs, and violence are the rule. The above is some of the reason why I am happy to have moved.


49 posted on 02/16/2014 6:32:44 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Graybeard58

Kansas City in the 1920’s became one of the major destinations for Blacks leaving their sharecropper life in the south for better opportunities in northern cities. Much of this migration was triggered by the 1927 floods in the Mississippi River basin. This migration was fueled by the New Deal, so it continued through the 30’s.

In Kansas City, as elsewhere, these newcomers displaced Whites in the city core. the Whites moved to the suburbs. Fast forward. During school desegregation, a Federal Judge took over the Kansas City, MO school system and implemented policies that further concentrated Blacks in the city core. He imposed taxes on surrounding Missouri counties and used the money for extravagant excesses in Kansas City Schools. Whites then fled to the Kansas side, outside the judges jurisdiction.

This gave Blacks all of the political power and they took over City Hall, and gained power in the Police and Fire Departments. The result is a city that is economically and socially stagnant, with economic growth and opportunity primarily across the state line. Even Kansas City, KS has turned the ocrner by merging city and county government and boosting growth with a NASCAR track, major league soccer stadium, and casino.

Everything is no longer up to date in Kansas City.


50 posted on 02/16/2014 6:36:13 AM PST by centurion316
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