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Union official blames Remington Arms expansion in Alabama on NY Safe Act
Post Standard Syracuse NY ^ | 2/15/14 | Rick Moriarty

Posted on 02/15/2014 10:15:48 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey, Union Thug.

You sleep with dogs, you wake with fleas.


101 posted on 02/16/2014 8:44:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A left wing union official is surprised when a left wing governor and state legislature pushes a law through that is detrimental to their livelihoods. That’s incredible.


102 posted on 02/16/2014 9:08:12 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Fee

“Been to the border of PA and NY farm counties. PA allows fracking and their small town folks are driving around in brand new pickup trucks. Meantime NY refuses to allow it, and their small town folks drive in beat up pick up trucks. NY and PA border is like East Berlin vs West Berlin during the Cold War.”

Yep, the Southern tier has been destroyed by liberal policies emanating from Albany. It’s always been about NYC, nothing more. Western NY should be it’s own state.

Endicott Johnson shoes, IBM, and dozens of other large employers all gone.


103 posted on 02/16/2014 9:12:41 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“i cnnotfeel sorry, for these particular people. you vote for libtards, you get laws from libtards, and live under the consequences of libtard laws.”

The problem is some don’t live under the tards laws, they
move to greener pastures and foul them as well. These are
truly worthless people.


104 posted on 02/16/2014 9:13:03 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Vermont Lt

“Upstate to Huntsville is not THAT much of a culture shock. Upstate can be very rural. Huntsville has more rockets and better weather.”

exactly. Upstate NY is another world from the tri-state area. It looks more like rural Ohio in the west and Southern Maine or Vermont in the Adirondacks. Totally different type of people who tend to be more conservative.


105 posted on 02/16/2014 9:21:48 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2
Upstate NY is another world from the tri-state area. It looks more like rural Ohio in the west and Southern Maine or Vermont in the Adirondacks. Totally different type of people who tend to be more conservative.

My paternal grandfather's family left Erie County for southern Iowa in the mid-1850's. Grandma (an ever-so-proper Noordholland/Ostfriesland farmer's daughter) considered them to be "hillbillies."

Mr. niteowl77

106 posted on 02/16/2014 10:32:12 AM PST by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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To: headstamp 2

Upstate New York and thereabouts is generally considered the largest continuously forested area east of the Mississippi. I’ve always been amazed by that.


107 posted on 02/16/2014 10:41:45 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Popman

I can’t WAIT to move out of NY. Hubby and I live in upstate and we vote as conservative as possible (which isn’t easy since it’s full of RINOs)

Of course our vote is lost in the sea of libtards from downstate, from nearby Monroe, Onondaga and Tompkins county. Funny thing though, it seems that ERIE county is swinging a bit more conservative these days.

If we moved to another conservative state, we would most definitely keep right on voting conservative.


108 posted on 02/16/2014 10:56:43 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU
correction: if we move to a another conservative state. . .--fixed it
109 posted on 02/16/2014 11:00:38 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

We welcome you in east Tennessee....


110 posted on 02/16/2014 11:03:53 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Pox

It’s fascinated me for a couple decades now that Remington has toughed it out by staying in New York. They watched Colt and Winchester go bust trying to pay union wages and put up with union BS in the Great Unionized Northeast. Remington has watched Ruger, in non-union AZ gradually catch up with it as being the largest gun maker. It’s not exactly comparable since their products don’t all compete but the market pressure is real. There is a sympathy, however, among gun buyers, to not put up with makers who go along with stupid state rules. Recall back in the 90’s when S&W got cute trying to get along with Clinton and it nearly did them in. I expect the top floor at Remington is getting an earfull from long-time customers about tolerating Kuomo.


111 posted on 02/16/2014 11:09:07 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Madore said plant officials told him they wanted to meet with him on Monday. They did not say what they wanted to talk about, but Madore said he assumes it will be about the company's reported plans to open a 500,000-square-foot manufacturing plant in Huntsville, Ala.

Perhaps that handwriting on the wall in gigantic day-glo letters?

112 posted on 02/16/2014 12:03:30 PM PST by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: headstamp 2

My daughter goes to school along the PA/NY border, about half way out. Her “environment” is quite similar to my college experience in Central VT. If it wasn’t NY, I could almost live there. Almost.


113 posted on 02/16/2014 12:25:20 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: jjotto

I’m a Zonie now and for coming up on 20 years. But I was raised in the Adirondacks. One of the most beautiful places on earth. When it ain’t raining or ‘mud season” ;)

The people are or were largely conservative and despise the edicts of Albany and NYC. Because NYC runs Albany. But many STILL vote Democrat because their forefathers did in perpetuity.

They will curse the libs to death. Then go vote for them because grandpa always did...Not all the folks there. But MANY.


114 posted on 02/16/2014 12:27:04 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: RugerMini14

I understand your point.

But i have had three generations of my family work at
Smith and Wesson. Their commitment to their craft is outstanding. The support of the second amendment outside of the 617 Area Code (General Boston vicinity) is strong. Unfortunately, our numbers are smaller outside of the urban areas.

Again, I appreciate your point, but I urge folks to not toss SW out with the Peoples Republic of Boston’s bathwater.


115 posted on 02/16/2014 12:28:48 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: bert

Yankees who move south and stay there are called dam Yankees.


116 posted on 02/16/2014 1:35:15 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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117 posted on 02/16/2014 1:49:59 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Behind Liberal Lines.


118 posted on 02/16/2014 2:14:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: TADSLOS
Unions. You can't fix stupid.

That and add Democrits. Oh, and NY Republibrinos..

119 posted on 02/16/2014 2:15:02 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
IBM is still in New York; where? Last time I was in Armonk it look deserted.

Yes, but Armonk has cut way back, and some of the buildings sold/leased out.

Corporate headquarters:
IBM Corporation
1 New Orchard Road
Armonk, New York 10504-1722
United States
914-499-1900
120 posted on 02/16/2014 2:21:17 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Why are workers at an arms plant in the United Mine Workers union?


121 posted on 02/16/2014 2:44:49 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: pepsionice

That part of the country is beautiful.


122 posted on 02/16/2014 2:47:33 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: xp38

I saw that commercial. Pretty desparate!


123 posted on 02/16/2014 3:02:35 PM PST by gr8eman (Neptune, Titan, stars don't frighten!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Any and all gun companies should move out of commie territory and lose the unions when they do. No excuse to remain and support the leftists.


124 posted on 02/16/2014 3:48:23 PM PST by soycd
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To: Fighter@heart
“very seldom in life do poor choices net good consequences.”

Two thumbs up!

125 posted on 02/16/2014 3:51:23 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner
The liberal fascists LOVE the phrase "assault weapon". It rolls off their forked tongues like butter off a hot corn bread stick.

If they could, they'd call a slingshot an "assault weapon".....just to make David a diabolical murderer when he slew Goliath.

Leni

126 posted on 02/16/2014 3:57:48 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Dapper 26
This is what the people of New York voted for...

More accurately, that is what the downstate and cities voted for.

Ilion is a small town with only around 8,000 people in upstate Herkimer County which itself has a population of around 64,000.

In 2012, they voted 53%/45% for Romney. It is a conservative area. Unfortunately, it can't out vote the 80%/20% margins given to Liberals in New York City and Long Island.

But I agree. New York is lost. Remington is best served to leave for a free state.

127 posted on 02/16/2014 4:48:36 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I posted the article regarding this move yesterday! Great day for Huntsville area!!!


128 posted on 02/16/2014 5:09:59 PM PST by RetiredArmy (God's judgment on America is here for us to see. If America does not wake up, it is going to suffer)
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To: pepsionice
Finally, this ought to be a reality series on the History Channel....as these New Yorker guys arrive and assimilate in Huntsville. It will be a definite culture shock.

I don't think it would be as much of a shock as you might think. Most upstate New Yorkers are a lot more like southerners in attitude and opinion than the City folk who are like from another planet. I know I easily and happily adjusted to the South and I was raised only a county over.

If they can make the unions stay behind, most who move will be just fine and fit in. The unions have killed New York industry and jobs by the hundreds of thousands and a lot of the people know it but can't do anything about it because of who runs the State (the Liberals and unions).

129 posted on 02/16/2014 5:59:29 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: pepsionice

“How many guys would want to move to Huntsville? That would be an interesting question. “

Keep in mind that these are people who make guns for a living. NY state probably sucks for them. I wouldn’t be surprised if quite a few followed the company to Alabama.


130 posted on 02/16/2014 7:15:11 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: billhilly

“About the time I enlisted in the Air Force, 1956, a common refrain in the southern United States was the statement that the South would rise again. It seemed like a silly dream in those days, but it has gradually happened. More car manufacturing jobs, gun and ammo, high tech and medicine,etc have re-energized the south and it seems to be here to stay.”

Heh, heh, heh. Looks like “dumb” southerners can figure out a thing or two.


131 posted on 02/16/2014 7:28:50 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“MA hasn’t changed their gun laws in years. No need to hate on S&W.”

Sure there is. They don’t make a particularly good gun, they sold out gun owners some years back (under different management), and they continue to support the tax coffers of a state that despises gun owners.


132 posted on 02/16/2014 7:34:54 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Part of my family is from up there as well, and were from there since before the revolution.

None are left. They realized that in the long run, you can’t fight stuck on stupid.


133 posted on 02/16/2014 7:39:48 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Gritty
I don't think it would be as much of a shock as you might think.

You are quite right. Plenty of New Yorkers got there before them and will help make them feel welcome. It won't be necessary, however, they will be made to feel welcome by most everyone. They will probably like the fact that the city is growing, businesses, jobs, homes, etc. They will have to make a choice: be an Alabama or an Auburn fan, but you can go either way. Most importantly, when it comes time to retire, they won't have to move to the South. They'll already be there.

134 posted on 02/16/2014 7:46:47 PM PST by centurion316
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To: RKBA Democrat

First off all, they make very well made, easy to shoot, and exceptionally well crafted firearms. To suggest they do not is just silly.

They employ a great deal of people who are hard working, good citizens, and support thousands in an environment that has lost thousands of manufacturing jobs.

Sure they pay taxes. They don’t “support” the Commonwealth per se. They support their local communities. For Gods sake, they pay taxes to the Fed gov at a time when most of them would shut down the gun industry.

If SW were to move, my guess is they would move out of the country. None of us need that.

A lot of Freepers talk out their ass when it’s easy and it doesn’t affect them personally. Unless you know what you are talking about, it’s best to support the good guys, even though we are struggling in tough territory. We used to support each other. Lately, this place has turned into a Texas mutual masturbation circle.


135 posted on 02/16/2014 8:52:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Baladas

“Well, he’s right. Cuomo’s gun control laws should be blamed.”

Help Stop the Homo - Vote Against Cuomo!!!


136 posted on 02/17/2014 5:29:47 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Vermont Lt

Rebuke well taken.

I disagree with you on the quality of their firearms. In every category of firearm that they make, someone does (or did it) it better. About the only place I’d argue they’re the industry leader is with revolvers, and that’s largely by default.

While S&W may well support thousands in an environment that has lost thousands of manufacturing jobs, that’s not necessarily the best thing for the long term. I have absolutely nothing against the folks who work for S&W. However, S&W’s presence in a state that has done everything it can to destroy industry in general and the firearms industry in particular is at best strategically unwise. They’re subsidizing those who in the long run WILL destroy them. You can’t feed a tiger your hand and not expect it to come back later for the rest.

As for S&W leaving the US, I have to assume that they’re as motivated by profit as any other large company. If they felt they could leave the US and make more money by doing so, they would have already done it. The fact that they haven’t tells me that they don’t view it in their best interest to do so.

As for changes in FR, I think there has become less of a tolerance for those areas of the country that are actively seeking to destroy what we have spent 200 plus years to build.


137 posted on 02/17/2014 5:43:12 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I guess you guys have no support for those of us stuck “behind the lines.”

That’s a good American value.

GFY. When the balloon goes up, I will pray that you are amongst the first casualties.


138 posted on 02/17/2014 6:35:37 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Unless you know what you are talking about, it’s best to support the good guys, even though we are struggling in tough territory. “

I wanted to expand on this point a little bit more. By your site handle I gather that you’re in VT?

I think many FReepers, including myself, are all for standing tough. The problem is, there are places where you can stand tough, and other places where you’re simply fighting a lost war. VT and MA and NY are states where that’s probably true. While I don’t think that’s true throughout the northeast, there are a few states where it’s simply over.

So do we stand idly by while our conservative brethren set themselves up to be the first “guests” when the leftists decide that their conservative minorities need to be sent off for re-education? Or do we encourage them, sometimes sharply, to get the heck out of dodge while they can?


139 posted on 02/17/2014 6:39:55 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

For many of us, that is simply not possible. For unlike the masses everywhere, I am committed to caring for the elderly on both sides of my family. The cannot be moved. Therefore, I cannot be moved.

In the end, I am done fighting these battles here. I am not giving an opus, but I am simply logging out so that I have to think twice about posting.

I have no idea where you are or what you do. As you clearly do not care about me and mine, I care not about you or your family.

I am not in Vermont, I am in MA. We do what we can.

I am sick of the knee jerk, ignorant comments that appear on this site.

You and other freepers are for “standing tough.” And I guess that means that you stand for yourselves. If the people of Mass did not stand tough, YOU would still be a subject of the crown, Thank God, there were real men and women in this country who would gladly stand together at that time. Now, because of your ignorance and knee jerk stupidity, there is little doubt that we shall hang first.

Again, your narrow view of patriotism and conservatism, makes me pray to see your demise before my own.


140 posted on 02/17/2014 6:53:21 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: tpmintx
And they can pursue their passion

They can take guitar lessons, or paint. They should consider poetry, as well.

Job lock is gone! Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, Free at Last!

141 posted on 02/17/2014 7:05:00 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: Paladin2

Versamax 12 gauge?


142 posted on 02/17/2014 7:19:59 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: ABN 505
upstate is mostly conservative, hard working, lower middle class

Nah.

I was born and bred in the five boroughs, and I lived among the appleknockers for four years.

They're not obnoxious like Upper West Side commies, but they sure do love their free sh*t stolen from the taxpayers. Look at Rochester, where half my family is from. Look at Buffler. Look at Syracuse and Utica.

White welfare trash, everywhere.

143 posted on 02/17/2014 7:26:50 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: Vermont Lt

Sounds to me like you’re exactly where you should be. Bye.


144 posted on 02/17/2014 8:06:49 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Thank you for posting this big dose of reality for union thugs in NY.

“It will liberate 1300 people from the drudgeries of work. They can stay home, raise their kids, and pay their Obama care premiums. It is the republicans that want people to work so hard, and they are leaving the state. What are you complaining about?”


145 posted on 02/17/2014 8:48:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: shoff; xp38

Thank for clarifying where Buomo is getting the money for those ads:


Oh the state is trying to attract new companies. While channel surfing the other day I came across on a Buffalo tv station an ad touting New York as a place to come to to open new businesses. It was offering a tax free enterprise zone or a tax free period of a number of years or something. They know they are hemorrhaging and want the bleeding to stop. It actually shocked me for a moment. Never seen anything like it in years gone by.”


146 posted on 02/17/2014 8:59:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: TaMoDee; Pox; Hieronymus; VampireStateNY; governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; ...
Brietbart has picked up the story now.
147 posted on 02/17/2014 9:20:42 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

We have younger relatives in management jobs where skilled electricians/plumbers/welders are key workers.

All of these workers are union guys, and they are hunters and gun owners.

Our younger relatives can’t believe that ardent hunters and gun owners vote democratic. They get that deer wide eye stare in the headlights, from their workers when they try to discuss this paradox.


148 posted on 02/17/2014 9:32:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

But I still wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for him to vote for a Republican.


149 posted on 02/17/2014 10:00:48 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: NoCmpromiz

I don’t have a list, but I recall the figures were 20% of the jobs lost *nationally* in the early 90s were in NYC, 20% in the rest of NYS, and 20% in California.


150 posted on 02/17/2014 11:07:46 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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