Skip to comments.Pot Fuels Surge in Drugged Driving Deaths
Posted on 02/15/2014 11:35:27 PM PST by South40
DDuring each shift at her drive-through window, once an hour, Cordelia Cordova sees people rolling joints in their cars. Some blow smoke in her face and smile.
Cordova, who lost a 23-year-old niece and her 1-month-old son to a driver who admitted he smoked pot that day, never smiles back. She thinks legal marijuana in Colorado, where she works, is making the problem of drugged driving worse and now new research supports her claim.
"Nobody hides it anymore when driving," Cordova said. "They think it's a joke because its legal. Nobody will take this seriously until somebody loses another loved one."
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This should be looked at by any state considering the same thing.
Those who give up freedom for security are bound to be slaves.
I’ll point this out in non-weed states...that you could end up in a serious accident because the other driver is all doped-up on legal prescription drugs....like Oxie. Or you could have some idiot who is wrapping up a high with meth, and he interprets your wave of the hand as being non-friendly and pulls up to shoot you at the next stop-light.
It doesn’t matter what state you reside....you’ve got a threat going on twenty-four hours a day...three-hundred-and-sixty-five days a year.
“As medical marijuana sales expanded into 20 states, legal weed was detected in the bodies of dead drivers three times more often during 2010 when compared to those who died behind the wheel in 1999...”
This means that with enough cheap dope, we can rid the nation of these dopers.
Give them all the cheap and powerful drugs they can ingest. Heck, give them pure smack for free.
Get them to kill themselves off as rapidly as possible and clean out the gene pool.
Look, I’ve seen brainless blonde twits plow into another car and nearly take out a pedestrian due to texting on her stupid phone. There’s threats everywhere. Banning any of this stuff won’t remove the threat.
The solution is to reintroduce lethal consequences for stupidity into our world, and let evolution do its magic work. Stupid people should have the right and the ability to kill themselves with great ease and a low cost. The only tragedy is that they’re occasionally going to take someone who isn’t stupid with them. But right now, we have so many stupid people breeding like rabbits in this country that we’re being overrun with stupidity.
Time to reinstitute natural selection.
I know what you mean. I know exactly what you’re saying.
Here’s one you won’t like: there is no freedom without responsibility.
In other words, we, meaning the majority of folks, should not be required to look out for drunks and stoners killing us or our family members.
No I think personal responsibility is the key.
Making a person responsible for their own actions go’s a long ways to stopping bad behavior.
Instead of allowing them to blame it on some object or thing.
>> “Nobody hides it anymore when driving,” Cordova said. “They think it’s a joke because its legal.”
It’s called Dope for a reason...
And that’s not justification for the WOD.
NO, because we still have to be on the roads with these idiots!
A separate study also based on FARS data found that in states where medical marijuana was approved, traffic fatalities decrease by as much as 11 percent during the first year after legalization. Written by researchers at the University of Colorado, Oregon and Montana State University, the paper was published in 2013 in the Journal of Law & Economics.
Those authors theorized pot, for some, becomes a substitute for alcohol. They cited a recent, 13-percent drop in drunk-driving deaths in states where medical marijuana is legal.
Marijuana reform is associated with
a decrease in traffic fatalities, most likely due to its impact on alcohol consumption, said Michael Elliott, executive director of the Marijuana Industry Group, a trade association in Colorado.
Told you so.
True. But does that really justify adding to it?
It should be as verboten to drive stoned as to drive drunk.
There are measures (how good they are may be under debate, but they at least exist) of what too drunk to drive is.
Are there similar measures of what too stoned to drive is?
Enough carnage and the auto insurers will begin to weigh in.
It's those pesky facts again.
Too bad pot heads can’t have dedicated highways just for them. People on drugs should leave normal people alone. They can do what they want with their own marginal lives, but others value life more.
“It doesnt matter what state you reside....youve got a threat going on twenty-four hours a day...three-hundred-and-sixty-five days a year.”
Having spent the last 30 plus years in a certain aspect of health care, I can attest that most of driving age Americans are whacked out of their skulls the better part of the day on US Government Certified, FDA approved and DEA sanctioned prescription drugs. They’ve got a drug card and a God given right to take drugs and they’re are not going to be outdone by anyone else.
Drive around the Jersey Shore area any time from 11pm to 4am and it’s a crap shoot. This is more anti-drug bs. Just keep it illegal and keep making criminals rich.
Hang in here with me. This is on the subject. In Florida we had mandatory auto inspections for about ten years. The inspectors had all attended a course on how to be rude and take the maximum amount of time. Then, one day, the governors wife took their car for an inspection. She got the standard treatment. Two weeks later there were no more inspections.
In Salem the witch trials were making a serious dent in the female population. Then, the governors wife was accused of witchcraft. No more witch trials. So until somebody in the governors family or in some other powerful politicians family is killed by a stoned driver, the rest of the populace will have to deal with the day to day tragedy of this situation.
Its amazing how people with power are separated from the rest of us and can therefore ignore our plight. Back when I owned GM vehicles going to the dealership was a humiliating and painful experience. They were rude, took no account of your time and would lie to your face. (I actually had to go get a newspaper article to prove to the service writer my car had been recalled and then it took several more visits and me paying a couple of hundred to get the problem fixed.) The problem was the top GM brass never dealt with a dealer or kept a car long enough for the problems to manifest.
Innocents killed? Collateral damage. The criminals/socialists/totalitarians/banksters are making money from it. The lawyers have more cases for the damage caused. A legislative and agency job/regulation creator. Socialization of risk insurers get to up rate from any carnage (even on the non-smokers). Best of all dopes are euphoric from their substance of choice and are less likely to use their rational faculties to examine the manipulations and plunder of their pushers.
I thought CO was the first state. Which states are they referring to?
Keep you doped on dope and sex and t.v.
Colorado DOT (Department of Transportation)
Traffic Safety - Colorado DUI Laws Include Marijuana Impaired Driving.
January 3, 2014
Similar to alcohol, there is an established impairment level in Colorado of five nanograms of active tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)the active psychoactive component of marijuanaper milliliter of whole blood. Driving while impaired by any substance is illegal and unsafe.
Marijuana affects reaction time, short-term memory, hand-eye coordination, concentration and perception of time and distance. And just like alcohol, people driving while impaired by marijuana can receive a DUI.
In addition to driving impaired, it is also illegal to consume or display marijuana on any public roadway, to have marijuana in the passenger area of a vehicle in an open container, container with a broken seal, or if there is evidence marijuana has been consumed.
In short, that's why many prescription drugs have specific warnings against operating machinery.
There is no forensic test for marijuana intoxication. In a case where a subject failed a field sobriety test, the judge threw out the case because there is no laboratory test to confirm, thus legalizing driving while stoned in that state.
Coming to a state near you.
Car and Driver has a good article on this very topic for the March issue. The quick answer is, not really. Check the article for more details. They really do cover it from all sides, IMHO.
"It's those pesky facts again".
Can you tell me which states the author was referring to? I'm quite sure CO is the first state to legalize, so the facts you are referring to may be made up 'facts'.
As coincidence FYI
It all fits.
(from zh poster “No Debt” in above link)
I agree totally with your post 9. The problem is that our overload of dumb s**ts know how to vote and they’ll put in office—and keep in office—the politicians who will do just what they want them to do.
This observation, of course, applies to just about anything currently on the American political scene.
I think it’s a hopeless situation.
Because a head-in-rectum public allowed laws to be passed to make this stuff “legal” the same public is reluctant to admit that their stupidity led to accidents.
It was predictable! Anybody with a functioning brain could have known.
President Obama proved right once again, no more dangerous than alcohol.
So let’s add another threat.
Don’t let politics overcome your junk-science detector.
There is nothing in this article to suggest that the pot is actually causing an increase in accidents (making the headline unsupported).
Let’s be calm and realize that one can look at fatality rates for states where pot was made legal, and compare the trends with states that keep it illegal.
Pointing out that more people who die are found to have pot in their bloodstream is one thing, but suggesting that it is causing them do die is another. It’s like suggesting that because an increased percentage of blacks are among the fatalities means that blacks are dangerous drivers.
Of course, I accept the hypothesis that pot impairs ability to some degree. it’s just that the facts reported in this article don’t support the hypothesis.
Ummm...simple logic would tell you that being stoned impairs your ability to drive. And since it is virtually undetectable, they have little fear of getting caught.
Look at this study:
It looks like VERY responsible science and statistics. It explains:
“[unlike alcohol] neither simulator nor driving-course studies provide consistent evidence that these [marijuana] impairments to driving-related functions lead to an increased risk of collision (Kelly et al. 2004; Sewell et al. 2009)”
And Figure 2 on page 55 tells the whole story.
Can you tell me which states the author was referring to? I’m quite sure CO is the first state to legalize, so the facts you are referring to may be made up ‘facts’.
Because a head-in-rectum public allowed laws to be passed to make this stuff legal the same public is reluctant to admit that their stupidity led to accidents.
It was predictable! Anybody with a functioning brain could have known.
Ummm...simple logic would tell you that being stoned impairs your ability to drive.
Yet the study isn’t advocating, and concludes (with rare scientific restraint):
“However, because other mechanisms cannot be ruled out, the negative relationship between medical marijuana laws and alcohol-related traffic fatalities does not necessarily imply that driving under the influence of marijuana is safer than driving under the influence of alcohol. For instance, it is possible that legalizing medical marijuana reduces traffic fatalities through its effect on substance use in public. Alcohol is often consumed in restaurants and bars, while many states prohibit the use of medical marijuana in public.35 Even where it is not explicitly prohibited, anecdotal evidence suggests that public use of medical marijuana can be controversial.36 If marijuana consumption typically takes place at home, then designating a driver for the trip back from a restaurant or bar becomes unnecessary, and legalization could reduce traffic fatalities even if driving under the influence of marijuana is every bit as dangerous as driving under the influence of alcohol.”
the entire drug issue can be solved right here..www.fhu.com
Never met a stoner I could trust.
For sure, it makes it a lot easier to get lost.
Dang, I spaced out and forgot to turn back there.
Oh Honey, tens of thousands can be killed and they still won't take it seriously.
You didn’t read the study, did you?
It appears that the stoners are smoking instead of drinking now, r may even just be staying home instead of going to bars.
The best information shows that relaxing pot laws makes the rest of us SAFER.