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Is Public Education Hurting More Than Helping Our Kids?
Politichicks ^ | February 15, 2014 | by Katie Abercrombie

Posted on 02/16/2014 6:04:50 AM PST by US Navy Vet

“I trudged the several blocks home from school, satchel in hand. It was a beautiful, golden afternoon, and I was ready for some adventure. I had a little homework, but that could wait until after supper. My parents knew that kids needed time to play and there was only so much daylight left. My best friend and I spent the afternoon exploring in the nearby woods and seeking out “evil” boys to annoy. We got home in time for supper and had plenty of time to finish our homework before bed. I don’t remember ever being stressed about tests and grades in elementary school. School was a relatively comfortable place, although it really did not compare with free time to play outside.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arth; curriculum; education; learning; publicschools; schools; teaching
Food for thought
1 posted on 02/16/2014 6:04:50 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Public Education is helping America march to Socialism.


2 posted on 02/16/2014 6:07:39 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, socialized education is bad for children and the country.


3 posted on 02/16/2014 6:09:05 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: US Navy Vet

It’s a main course of public indoctrination, with a small side-dish of education. Avoid if at all possible.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 6:09:53 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: US Navy Vet
SCHOOLING DOES NOT EQUAL EDUCATION

I liked our country better when we didn't take formal education very seriously.

The Underground History of American Education

5 posted on 02/16/2014 6:10:42 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: US Navy Vet

YES!


6 posted on 02/16/2014 6:12:26 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes. Next question.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 6:13:40 AM PST by jocon307
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To: US Navy Vet

A problem with fixing education is that it is like the old adage: Congress sucks, except for my congressman.

At the micro level: I have kids learning a great deal about Organic Chemistry and Compiler Design.

At the macro level: Colleges are marxist indoctrination centers, the Dept of Education should be de-funded.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 6:14:36 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, it’s hurting more than helping, with its leftist agenda and re-written history. And the school aren’t enough, we’ve got to have it forced on us in tv programming.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 6:17:51 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: US Navy Vet
Is Public Education Hurting More Than Helping Our Kids?

A blind man could see that.

10 posted on 02/16/2014 6:18:18 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Catholic schools used to be the best. They identified about 13 different learning styles and could and did teach to them.


11 posted on 02/16/2014 6:20:39 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: US Navy Vet

Of course not! One in four knows the sun revolves around the earth.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 6:22:03 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: US Navy Vet

Is Public Education Hurting More Than Helping Our Kids?

The easy answer is YES. But with proper involvement by parents the answer is NO.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 6:28:40 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Government takeover of the schools has moved them from education to indoctrination of leftist dogma and political correctness.


14 posted on 02/16/2014 6:39:02 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: US Navy Vet
"Is Public Education Hurting More Than Helping Our Kids?"

Allow me to answer this question with a question whose answer, with due reflection, will, hopefully, become rather simple and clear to many: Is fecal matter generally given to being malodorous?

15 posted on 02/16/2014 6:43:01 AM PST by Trentamj
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To: Trentamj

“So, tell me, Rabbi, why does a Jew always answer a question with a question?”

“Vye shuddna Jew ansver a kveshun mit a kveshun?”


16 posted on 02/16/2014 6:47:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Edecation is one leg in the Indoctrination Axis of Evil;

Academia
Entertainment
MSM


17 posted on 02/16/2014 6:47:22 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

A $10k tax credit would solve it.


18 posted on 02/16/2014 6:51:24 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Ok just DEFINE “proper involvement by parents”? Is it Selling popcorn, magazines, cookies to “finance” the latest Wet Dream of an Educrat. Is it LOADING down kids with BULLSHIT “homework” because some DAMN PUNK “Teacher” WASTED 7 or 8 SOLID hours in the classroom. DEFINE IT!


19 posted on 02/16/2014 6:52:57 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
and education does NOT equal intelligence...
20 posted on 02/16/2014 6:54:27 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Of course not! One in four knows the sun revolves around the earth.

And the same one in four don't know the meaning of the word "revolve".

21 posted on 02/16/2014 7:04:23 AM PST by super7man
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To: US Navy Vet

With all due respect, if you don’t know, I shall not waste my time defining it. I also take your tone to be one of anger and find it quite amusing. From my experience your challenge sounds like someone who did not stay involved. So figure it out and stop YELLING. Here is a hint, Your local public school is what YOU allow it to be and it is much more fixable than the federal government. With the help of other involved parents we fixed our local schools and they will only stay fixed as long as parents like us stay involved. It’s dirty work and if you chose to think it can’t be done, you’re correct.


22 posted on 02/16/2014 7:05:13 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

YUMM YUMM DRINK some more of that Kool Aide. You are a sheep. You need to learn about the purpose and origins of the “Public” School “system”.


23 posted on 02/16/2014 7:08:40 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet
The men who managed the moon landings went to public school. But back then public education was locally controlled and the population was 90% White.

The problem now is we have a centrally controlled system that is ruled by Globalist/Marxists and is inundated with huge numbers of Third-world kids. Globalist/Marxists ruin everything and Third world people produce Third world results. Its not the system that's the problem so much as the people in it.

For example, California's public education was the best in the world before California was a Democrat stronghold colonized by Mexicans.

24 posted on 02/16/2014 7:10:23 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, when they let Planned Parenthood teach parenting classes, the education system as gone down the tube.


25 posted on 02/16/2014 7:13:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: US Navy Vet

Public School Educrat’s “Wet Dreams” throughout the years:
“New” Math:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Math
Outcomes Based Education:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcome-based_education
Common Core:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Core_State_Standards_Initiative
“Whole” Language:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_language


26 posted on 02/16/2014 7:20:02 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

OK. The gloves are off now. I know all about the history of public schools. You are a moron and a defeatist. If your local public school fails you it is your fault. You can’t fix it sitting on your fat butt whining about it. My kids are now in their 30s raising their own children. They don’t live in the same school district as I do. But I am still involved and so are they. Home schooling is wonderful but not always doable. As long as I’m paying taxes I will stay in the fight. Just admit that you are weak and gave up the fight before you even started. By they way mister history it was Flavor Aid not KoolAid.


27 posted on 02/16/2014 7:44:36 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Parent(s) that don’t see to it that their kids respect authority, do their homework and don’t know where their kids are at 9:30pm are the main problem.


28 posted on 02/16/2014 8:14:11 AM PST by fso301
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To: US Navy Vet

It really depends on the educator.

A good group of educators and administrators working together can push kids far.

We have kids taking 6-8 AP courses before they graduate, passing all the AP exams, and receiving scholarships to top ranked colleges. They all are prepared for their next four years of instruction as well.

I WISH we could do more for our non-college track students, live giving them an intensive vo-tech and basic math/English skills battery that would allow them to start making money as soon they graduate.

Alas, that died with the 70’s


29 posted on 02/16/2014 8:16:56 AM PST by struggle
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To: US Navy Vet

From one US Navy vet to another - thanks for posting this article. It reinforces a comment (parents should avoid public schooling their kids) I made recently on Facebook. Not surprisingly, my comment raised the ire of several PS teachers.


30 posted on 02/16/2014 8:17:28 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Some parents in my state are trying to exclude their kids from Common Core. The state commissioner of education says that’s “illegal.”

So much for your local public school is what YOU allow it to be.


31 posted on 02/16/2014 8:21:03 AM PST by goldi
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To: US Navy Vet

Common core includes group projects with where students evaluate each other.


32 posted on 02/16/2014 8:27:36 AM PST by cornelis
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To: US Navy Vet

Common Core is the final nail in the coffin of Public Education. Nationalizing curriculum and feeding more power to the Feds. They’re doing a great job destroying our once great nation and they are after your children’s minds as well.


33 posted on 02/16/2014 9:05:29 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes it is.


34 posted on 02/16/2014 9:14:34 AM PST by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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To: FatherofFive
Public Education is helping America march to Socialism.
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Government schooling is the absolute definition of a single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded, socialist-entitlement.

Compulsion means the treat of police and court action. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.)

Government schooling, since its inception in the mid-1800s, has **always** been a single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded, socialist entitlement.

35 posted on 02/16/2014 9:22:10 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Conspiracy Guy

The easy answer is YES. But with proper involvement by parents the answer is NO.
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This like dosing a child with poison and making him sick because the antidote is in the medicine cabinet at home. NOT smart.


36 posted on 02/16/2014 9:24:42 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Conspiracy Guy

When was it ever possible to “fix” a single-payer and socialist-entitlement?

Government schooling is SS schooling ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement).


37 posted on 02/16/2014 9:27:33 AM PST by wintertime
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To: goldi

We beat common core at the local level and put enough pressure on the state legislature to ignore it too. If you’re willing to let the state commissioner dictate to you and you haven’t filed a law suit yet, I don’t know what to tell you. I live in a red state but the state legislature was still blue until recently, we started the fight against heavy odds and common core helped make them the minority. We have stopped common core in the state unless a local board wants to incorporate it for their district. We also passed a law that the state teacher’s union has to bill their members for dues rather than the state doing payroll deduction. I ran for and was elected to the local board of education on common core replacing a nanny stater. I didn’t say it was easy. It takes hard work. You can either be a Boehner or a Cruz.


38 posted on 02/16/2014 12:36:18 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: wintertime

What are you doing to fix it? Are you acting like Boehner and caving in?


39 posted on 02/16/2014 12:37:28 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: wintertime

It may be that way where you live but where I live we fight and we control curriculum. You may just need to hide or give up entirely. Slavery was wrong but we fixed it. The lack of fight I see is amazing. I won’t give up until I win or die. I guess people where you live say “live free unless someone says we can’t”. Move.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 12:41:10 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I believe you. We have an extremely vocal population and if they’re unhappy, they take the appropriate action.

They just got the school board to fold on a very unpopular drug testing program they wanted to foist on kids who participate in extracurricular activities. When the parents and students found the school board was withholding information, they went to court to get the board to release it and proved the board to be untruthful.

The school board was surprised and upset with the rancor of the parents and students. Too bad.


41 posted on 02/16/2014 1:10:27 PM PST by goldi
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To: goldi

Godd fight fight fight. We conservatives were too quiet for too long. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. We have to be squeaky and beat the loud mouth left and middle by being louder. Debate is pointless since their idea of compromise is that you have to give them all they want and get nothing in return. RINOs and the Left think the Tea Party is dead. We know it is growing.


42 posted on 02/16/2014 1:22:51 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Godd = Good.


43 posted on 02/16/2014 1:30:25 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Slavery was abolished.

SS schooling ( single-payer and socialist-entitlement schoolsing) must be as well.

Your area’s schools are just as godless in their worldview as anyone else’s. The children in your area’s schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate while in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

The children in your area’s schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialist single-payer programs just as much as anyone else’s. Hey! If the voting mob in your area can give a child tuition-free schooling, why not use that mob to get LOTS of ‘free” stuff.

Fundamentally, government schools are an abomination because all of them are built upon the rotten foundation of single-payer socialism. And...Every ( yes **all** ) government K-12 schools in this nation are godless in their worldview. They are not now ( and never have been ) religiously neutral.

Every government SS school in this nation is a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination! Reforming that is like playing with dog pooh and calling Playdoh.


44 posted on 02/16/2014 3:00:49 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Conspiracy Guy

SS schooling can NOT be fixed. It must be abandoned.

I am doing all I can to convince as many parents as possible to abandon the SS schools.


45 posted on 02/16/2014 3:02:37 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You are a moron unworthy of any further response from me. You are exactly what Christ warned the rest of us about. Are you a member of Westboro Baptist Church? If you aren’t you ought to be. Have a nice trip to failure, oh never mind you’re already there.


46 posted on 02/16/2014 3:08:54 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: wintertime

Let me know how that failure works out for you. By the way did I mention you are a failure and obviously a member of Westboro Baptist Church? What do you think of Jews? What do you think of members of the armed forces? Have you ever done anything other than whine? Do you live alone in a desolate area?


47 posted on 02/16/2014 3:21:10 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I will no longer respond to your posts. You have made it to my IGNORE list.


48 posted on 02/16/2014 5:58:08 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Oh how sad. We had so much in common. I’m a fighter and you’re a quiter.


49 posted on 02/17/2014 1:53:15 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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