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No, global warming did NOT cause the storms, says one of the Met Office's most senior experts
The Mail ^ | 16 February 2014 | David Rose

Posted on 02/16/2014 6:12:14 AM PST by managusta

One of the Met Office’s most senior experts yesterday made a dramatic intervention in the climate change debate by insisting there is no link between the storms that have battered Britain and global warming.

Mat Collins, a Professor in climate systems at Exeter University, said the storms have been driven by the jet stream – the high-speed current of air that girdles the globe – which has been ‘stuck’ further south than usual.

Professor Collins told The Mail on Sunday: ‘There is no evidence that global warming can cause the jet stream to get stuck in the way it has this winter. If this is due to climate change, it is outside our knowledge.’

His statement carries particular significance because he is an internationally acknowledged expert on climate computer models and forecasts, and his university post is jointly funded by the Met Office.

Prof Collins is also a senior adviser – a ‘co-ordinating lead author’ – for the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). His statement appears to contradict Met Office chief scientist Dame Julia Slingo.

Last weekend, she said ‘all the evidence suggests that climate change has a role to play’ in the storms.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; uk
The President said that if you like your climate change you can keep your climate change,meanwhile he intends to ask Congress for a Billion dollars to disprove p*ssing into the wind will result in wet legs.
1 posted on 02/16/2014 6:12:14 AM PST by managusta
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To: managusta

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


2 posted on 02/16/2014 6:20:06 AM PST by abclily
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To: abclily
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

If I've learned one thing from watching the Disney Channel™, it's that you can go anywhere in your imagination.

3 posted on 02/16/2014 6:24:21 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: abclily

If everyone understood how the sun works....they would pray to the sun not to kill us, instead of worrying about warm light bulbs.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 6:26:50 AM PST by jetson
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To: managusta

I’m only 60 and I have seen winters like this come along several times since I was 5 years old. We need to pump all the CO2 out of the earth’s atmosphere and stablize the climate forever. With no CO2 all the bitching by the Global warming alarmists would cease! Let’s do it now.


5 posted on 02/16/2014 6:34:05 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: abclily
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

WOW !!!!!

That would probably make it bigger than Obama's ego.....


6 posted on 02/16/2014 6:35:04 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: abclily
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow,and our planet began to heal.

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp

7 posted on 02/16/2014 6:35:05 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: jetson

If you search around the internet, you’ll eventually come up on a figure that says 10,233,347,087 km^3 of ‘air’ [what makes up our atmosphere] surrounds the earth.

10.233 TRILLION CUBIC KILOMETERS of AIR. For anyone to assert man’s activities produce more than, say, volcanos and other natural effects and to further asset that it affects the sun’s influence on our planet and meaningfully exerts undue influence on that scale of volume is positively arrogant on the one hand and ludicrous on the other.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 6:36:50 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: managusta; abclily; St_Thomas_Aquinas; jetson
Look - some Really Smart Guy who works for the President said:

"Weather practically everywhere is being caused by climate change"

He's got a PhD, so it must be true.

I mean, how can us simple peasants understand deep thoughts like that?

Wonder if the Really Smart Guy knows that the earth circles around the sun, or is he one of the 26% of Americans who were sleeping in high school science class, and missed that?

9 posted on 02/16/2014 6:38:21 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Conspiracy Guy
We need to pump all the CO2 out of the earth’s atmosphere and stabilize the climate forever.

We could use Really Big Atmospheric CO2 Pumps designed & built by the President's cronies!

Win-win!

10 posted on 02/16/2014 6:41:02 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: spokeshave
Good luck surviving with no electricity

Geez. Don't be such a Debby Downside.

Our government Masters will have all the electricity they need. They might even share some with us peasants every once in a while.

11 posted on 02/16/2014 6:43:03 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Gaffer
For anyone to assert man’s activities produce more than, say, volcanos and other natural effects and to further asset that it affects the sun’s influence on our planet and meaningfully exerts undue influence on that scale of volume is positively arrogant on the one hand and ludicrous on the other.

Look, it's not just ANYONE who is saying it. The Teleprompter of the United States has spoken. Pay no attention to the man in the stupid-looking golf shorts.

12 posted on 02/16/2014 6:44:56 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

To believe the TelePromptR-OTUS (TM) requires a willing suspension of all disbelief, logic, and reason.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 6:49:54 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: managusta

The British Isles used to be buried under ice thousands of feet thick - who is to say that was not the “correct” state of affairs and that the last few millennia were just unusually warm?


14 posted on 02/16/2014 6:51:46 AM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: kiryandil

Getting rid of the CO2 is the ultimate leftist dream. I have come to the conclusion that the left somehow believes they will still be here when they have destroyed the earth. Maybe 0bama will grant them waivers exempting them from needing an atmosphere.


15 posted on 02/16/2014 6:54:07 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Getting rid of the CO2 is the ultimate leftist dream. I have come to the conclusion that the left somehow believes they will still be here when they have destroyed the earth.

I always just rub their nose in their own excrement:

"Oh, saving the planet for the Muslims, eh?"

16 posted on 02/16/2014 6:57:29 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: spokeshave

Your linky no link. Try this one

http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp


17 posted on 02/16/2014 7:16:02 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Flag_This
The British Isles used to be buried under ice thousands of feet thick - who is to say that was not the “correct” state of affairs and that the last few millennia were just unusually warm?

Actually you are correct. Glacial periods last hundreds of thousands of years and the inter glacial periods last about 20 thousand years. We are nearing the end of an inter glacial period.

18 posted on 02/16/2014 7:19:14 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: managusta

Huh? I thought George W. Bush caused it.


19 posted on 02/16/2014 7:23:57 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: managusta
It's why they re-named it from Global Warming to Climate Change: vagueness.

Now, it doesn't matter if the temp goes up or down, it's our fault and we have to pay money to.... someone, so "they" can "fix" it.

But how will we know when it is all "fixed" and we (meaning rich countries) can stop paying for it? I have the same question about reverse discrimination... I mean affirmative action.

20 posted on 02/16/2014 7:48:10 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: managusta

Warmists:”We don’t need no stinkin’ evidence”.


21 posted on 02/16/2014 7:49:39 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I am 69 and I have seen much worse than this in the Carolinas. Back in 1970 I lived on the edge of Charlotte, NC and we had a period when running streams froze, I saw a small pond frozen so thickly that a horse stood on it and licked the ice to a depth of several inches in an attempt to get a drink. We had days when the HIGH was twelve above! In 1973 I lived where I am now and we had 17 inches of snow here along I-95 about seventy miles inland from Myrtle Beach, one area to the South reported just over two feet of snow. We also had other strange weather that year. In ‘69 I lived just South of the NC line and we had freezing rain that destroyed every single utility pole in a huge area and wrecked forests. Some homes were out of power until the spring.
One thing was different then, we didn’t have any idiots claiming it was all caused by global warming. No one then was crazy enough to even consider such a damned fool idea.


22 posted on 02/16/2014 7:51:50 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: kiryandil
Geez. Don't be such a Debby Downside.

Just spreading the good word....me...I'm preping for global cooling....as a start am adding another layer of siding to my house complete with 3 ins of insulation and a second set of double glazed windows on top of the existing ones.

Dr Archibald, credited as the first scientist to develop a method for using solar sunspot cycles to predict temperatures, instead said solar activity suggests global temperatures will cancel out previous warming and fall 2 to 3 degrees Celsius by 2040.

That could wreak havoc on the world’s food supply by potentially reducing global grain production by 400 million tonnes—mirroring the skyrocketing crop costs and 200,000 European deaths sparked by the 1816 eruption of Mt. Tambora in Indonesia. “There will be at least one consolation. Phil Jones, Michael Mann, James Hansen and Al Gore will all, most likely, still be around to see their entire religious belief system collapsing around their ears,” wrote James Delingpole, a writer for the Telegraph, in a post last year on Archibald’s work. See slides from Archibald’s presentation here:

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/20130911_OurCoolingClimateCapitolHill16thSeptember2013.pdf

23 posted on 02/16/2014 7:59:41 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: cpdiii

Thanks


24 posted on 02/16/2014 8:00:49 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave

Of course, King Canute was actually being humble by showing sychophantic courtiers the limits of his Royal Authority in comparison to that of God.

Pretty much the exact opposite of Obama and his approach to everything.


25 posted on 02/16/2014 8:09:15 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
yes....but the low information voters don't know that....

so using the Alinsky rule of ridicule works.

26 posted on 02/16/2014 8:15:28 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: managusta

Gee every higher than normal temperature is always evidence of global warming, but this record setting winter weather either is ignored or explained by some tortured explanation that it is warmer someplace else so that it is colder here. The bottom line is that the global warming cult is just a convenient disguise for those who want more government control.


27 posted on 02/16/2014 8:38:54 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: managusta
If this is due to climate change, it is outside our knowledge.’

. Seems to me just about all man made climate change is outside of our knowledge. Which of course makes it easy to blame any climate event on climate change.

28 posted on 02/16/2014 8:42:49 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: managusta

As the left realizes it has flogged the life out of every phoney issue it has frothed at the mouth over, global warming may be its last refuge.


29 posted on 02/16/2014 10:20:58 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: kiryandil
Our government Masters will have all the electricity they need. They might even share some with us peasants every once in a while

Ha.....only those on the "list"...starting with Holders people....

The rest are out of luck and energy...not to mention health care....

Fits right in with the Ayres Alinsky goal of "terminating" 20 million or so that refuse to accept communism.....

Obama Mentor BILL AYERS and Future - AMERICAN HOLOCAUST ... americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com/.../obama-mentor-bill-ayers-and...‎

Feb 14, 2013 - "SEND 25 MILLION AMERICANS TO ... And if they could not be successfully rehabilitated and re-educated, they were to be TERMINATED.

30 posted on 02/16/2014 10:30:54 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: managusta

the “climate change” Nazis are just like American Left-Liberals

you don’t alter your prescription just because the medicine (policy) has not been working,

why?, because the prescription/policy is really about your wonderful good and benevolent intentions, not if how you apply that intent actually works

true to ideological form, Obama’s “Russia reset” policy is a classic exmple


31 posted on 02/16/2014 10:38:20 AM PST by Wuli
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To: spokeshave; abclily

As I remember being taught about King Canute’s statement : he was showing that not even he, the King, had the power to order the tides to change. Thus he was saying, there are limits to my power, and it does not extend over the forces of nature.

Of course, messiah Obama thinks his power does exist over nature.


32 posted on 02/16/2014 10:45:07 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: RipSawyer

You are spot on. The climate goes through cycles short and long. When hurricanes are severe, the global wormers (spelling intentional) yell “global warming”. When we have unusually cold weather and we say “some global warming”, the scream “it is just a weather event”


33 posted on 02/16/2014 12:26:23 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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