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Deportation program targets felons but nets those without criminal records
sun-sentinel. ^ | February 16, 2014 | William E. Gibson, Washington Bureau

Posted on 02/16/2014 8:24:05 AM PST by moonshinner_09

A program intended to remove illegal immigrants who are felons and terrorists has resulted in nearly 6,000 people with no known criminal records being deported from Florida over the past five years, federal records show.

They were among 17,723 illegal immigrants deported from the state overall as part of the fingerprint-sharing program called Secure Communities, which was designed to tap information from local police to remove those who commit major crimes.

Among the deported were also 4,442 who had committed only misdemeanors.

The program is just part of a surge in deportations from the state over the five-year period that has provoked an outcry from immigrant communities.

"They [immigration officials] had the good sense to put a priority on trying to get the hard-core people out: terrorists and criminals and those who have committed multi-immigration violations. Other administrations had targeted everybody: day workers, nannies, maids — everybody," said Jeffrey Brauwerman, a former immigration judge in Fort Lauderdale.

"The controversy is that they also pick up people who have committed misdemeanors, minor crimes. They still were fingerprinted and booked, so the records are there. The complaint I've heard is that the minor violators are getting caught up with the major violators."

Secure Communities, begun in 2008, gives federal immigration officials access to fingerprints of everyone picked up on suspected violations, ranging from murder to driving without a license. Many were flagged after traffic stops, held on suspected violations and identified to federal officials.Of the 5,964 who had no known criminal record, 4,541 had failed to leave the country after a prior order of removal or had re-entered after being removed. The other 1,423 were neither criminal offenders nor fugitives but had entered the country illegally or overstayed their visas, according to figures compiled by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; florida; immigration
"The controversy is that they also pick up people who have committed misdemeanors, minor crimes.What is considered minor crimes by their standards ?
1 posted on 02/16/2014 8:24:06 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
They were among 17,723 illegal immigrants deported from the state overall as part of the fingerprint-sharing program called Secure Communities, which was designed to tap information from local police to remove those who commit major crimes.

Wouldn't violating the sovereignty of another country be a major crime? It seems to be in nearly every other country in the world. Just try to illegally enter Mexico from the south.

2 posted on 02/16/2014 8:29:27 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: moonshinner_09

Crossing the border illegally IS a felony....

Azzhats!


3 posted on 02/16/2014 8:29:49 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: moonshinner_09

If the federal “government” was doing its job, they’d have criminal records. Geez. This isn’t rocket science. Current immigration laws are the “law of the land”. Unfortunately, it’s another “law of the land” that law enforcement is refusing to enforce.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 8:36:28 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: moonshinner_09
A program intended to remove illegal immigrants who are felons and terrorists has resulted in nearly 6,000 people with no known criminal records being deported from Florida over the past five years, federal records show.

In the last five years they made the mistake of illegally voting for Republicans. Had they voted illegally for Bolshies they would have gotten certificates of good citizenship and a pat on the back.

5 posted on 02/16/2014 8:36:54 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: moonshinner_09

If you’re here illegally, in my mind, you are a criminal. Deport them all.


6 posted on 02/16/2014 8:37:04 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

They should all be deported because they are a direct threat to the country. What is illegal immigration? It’s bypassing the check points that were put in place to protect the country. So any number of these invaders could be serial killers for all we know.

When liberals like to yell “Oh they are people who just want to work” I like to say “No they are killers with records as long as a telephone book who want to mass slaughter” I mean how can you tell? They could be killers just as much as people who want to work and judging by how many people they do kill that’s not far off the mark.

http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


7 posted on 02/16/2014 8:45:28 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: moonshinner_09
What is considered minor crimes by their standards?

Subject to interpretation. As this story illustrates.

NAACP Rep Compares Sexual Assault To Jaywalking (Guess The Perp's Political Party"


8 posted on 02/16/2014 8:47:33 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: moonshinner_09

>>A program intended to remove illegal immigrants who are felons and terrorists has resulted in nearly 6,000 people with no known criminal records being deported from Florida over the past five years.<<

Good.

Enrtering the US illegaly IS a crime.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 8:57:52 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Immigrating illegal automatically earns one a criminal record.


10 posted on 02/16/2014 9:07:18 AM PST by skeeter
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To: moonshinner_09

“...no known criminal records “

well that should be easy enough to fix...

willful ignorance is a terrible thing!


11 posted on 02/16/2014 9:13:36 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yep!


12 posted on 02/16/2014 9:34:25 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: moonshinner_09

And so the problem is what? I must be missing something.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 9:49:29 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: clee1

I think illegal entry is just a civil infraction, not even a misdemeanor.


14 posted on 02/16/2014 9:49:59 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk; clee1

Bunk. Entering without inspection is a Federal misdemeanor on the first conviction and.a felony the second time.

8 USC 1325, look it up

It’s a CRIME. A federal crime.


15 posted on 02/16/2014 10:13:05 AM PST by Regulator
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To: clee1

Actually it’s not. But what the news article is suggesting is a massive dose of selective enforcement of the law, letting the lesser offenders off because we didn’t happen to find felons.

8 USC 1325 defines the offense of illegal entry.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 10:16:21 AM PST by DPMD
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To: moonshinner_09
I was started crying as I read how these poor undocumented....Nah< I was actually smiling! They committed a crime the day they ILLEGALLY crossed our border and continued committing crimes every day they remained! What are the consequences for a legal U.S. resident for committing document fraud?
17 posted on 02/16/2014 10:26:31 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: moonshinner_09

They should not be here to begin with, we should be deporting all of them. Instead we are deporting “some” who have committed additional crimes after they came here illegally and there are complaints about it? This is insanity.


18 posted on 02/16/2014 10:30:34 AM PST by Tammy8
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To: Regulator
So this is what I see, and as usual, it's not exactly straightforward:

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties

Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—

(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or

(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

19 posted on 02/16/2014 10:39:35 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

Let me explain it.

1) any offense that does not carry a possibility of imprisonment for 1 year or more is a misdemeanor.

2) any offense that carries such a possibility - more than a year - is a federal felony.

Note the hierarchy in the law.

The fact that civil penalties apply is merely additional to the criminal penalties. You can be fined AND imprisoned.

Still thinks its jaywalking?


20 posted on 02/16/2014 11:25:27 AM PST by Regulator
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To: andyk

Ps

Classification of federal crimes by sentence is under 18 USC 3559.

You will note that a first conviction of 1325 is a class B misdemeanor and the second is a Class E felony.


21 posted on 02/16/2014 11:31:10 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

No I don’t think it’s jaywalking anymore, and I’m happy to be corrected. Now I have ammunition.


22 posted on 02/16/2014 11:32:18 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

I’m glad you’re open to it.

I worked and grew up next to the Mexican border. You cannot imagine just how serious it is to cross illegally - it’s a war zone east of Nogales and now even west of it.

No one who crosses illegally is unaware of the seriousness. There are armed men everywhere, warning signs, lights at night (you should see the Rio Grande at El Paso at night - klieg lights for 20 miles), fences, walls, guns, bandits and drug smugglers.

It is a brazen and deliberate act to cross into the US illegally. No one can plead ignorance.


23 posted on 02/16/2014 11:40:47 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Many of these fall into “After an alien has been legally “removed” from the United States, federal criminal law makes it a felony for that alien to reenter (or be found in) the country without approval of the government. “


24 posted on 02/16/2014 5:05:33 PM PST by Tspud1
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
25 posted on 02/16/2014 7:20:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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