Skip to comments.Republicans: Obama violating Constitution, but little can be done about it
Posted on 02/16/2014 10:39:27 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
Washington Republicans on Sunday restated their argument that President Obama has violated the Constitution by using executive orders to alter the Affordable Care Act, but acknowledged they likely have no recourse or ability to stop another incident.
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, told Fox News Sunday that congressional Republicans think the president abused the governments separation of powers by using the executive orders to sidestep Congress and delay the laws employer mandate.
However, he said critics would have a tough time winning in court because Congress lacks the so-called legal standing to present the case and they would have a tough time finding somebody hurt enough by the delays to be a good plaintiff.
The president knows this is wrong, said Lee, among the most outspoken ObamaCare critics. What gives him the ability to rewrite the law?
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It’s really quite simple: Impeach, indict, arrest, convict, sentence.
It’s going to go both ways if we ever get into the white house again
Impeach and remove (if you have the votes). The rest of your list is a pipedream.
The House gave away what power it had and now the GOPe is in the comfortable position of complaining and saying they don’t have the Senate so send money.
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There is no law in this country anymore. Law enforcement, the “courts”, “judges”, the DOJ are all totally worthless. Just a bunch of slugs drawing paychecks and harassing law abiding Americans. IMHO.
Only the voters can fix this problem. We is doomed.
One thing we can do is strengthen the laws once we get in power
The problem is, in the event Republican elites ever manage to win the presidency again, they can’t wait to do all the s**t Obama has been getting away with.
So the Executive usurps powers reserved to the Legislature and the Legislature doesn't think they have standing to go to court?
So let me get this straight, Mr. Lee, The president can make Law for which we the People have no say or representation? That about it? We do need to be clear on this.
These guys apparently need some sheesh to go with that whine.
Grow up and be men. Do your jobs and live up to your responsibilities.
"Hurt enough?" Are you kidding?
Who determines what's "enough?"
Throw lawyers and accountants at them, clog up the courts with lawsuits up the whazoo and take a shot. How about cancer patient or dialysis patients or MS patients who've been already documented as suffering?
And Lee is supposed to be one of the "fighters" for our side?
Is there anyone left in Congress who has even a scinitilla of balls?
” Congress lacks the so-called legal standing to present the case and they would have a tough time finding somebody hurt enough by the delays to be a good plaintiff.”
Standing! Why doesn’t Congress itself have “legal standing” if the separation of powers is being violated?
Patients dying from cancer get refused treatment.
They should have ‘standing’.
It’s called ‘no cahonies’.
I doubt even one Freeper here can name one thing the GOP has promised
to do if they take the senate and maintain the House, because I have not
heard or read what they plan to do with the power they may be given.
every couple of weeks some repub comes out and claims Obama is violating the law, but they don’t have the balls to do anything.
At breakfast, I grabbed the front section of the LA Crimes at the cafe. They had a puff piece on Holder. This is the guy that fired the investigator who had the mayor of Sacramento, Kevin Johnson, dead to rights. But Johnson was an Obama supporter and one of Holder’s people. Then he applied racial differences to prosecutions and then fast and furious and on and on. Has Holder been removed, of course not.
And some say he’s on his way to the USSC. How will the republicans stop that? They won’t.
If the repubs had leaders in congress. they would mount a national campaign showing what will happen with a senate GOP majority.
“...critics would have a tough time winning in court because Congress lacks the so-called legal standing to present the case and they would have a tough time finding somebody hurt enough by the delays to be a good plaintiff.”
This notion of standing has to have a limit, surely. If the American taxpayers don’t have standing to challenge fedgov, we are lost. It is, after all, the taxpayers who fund the government, ultimately; whether operating funds or debt service.
Get his many violations on record by impeaching him. And get his co-conspirators in treason on record too, when they (the senate democrats) refuse to remove him for high crimes and treason.
In the case of usurpation of powers not granted, Congress IS the court.
... and it's a law passed by Congress that is being illegally changed!!
This has nothing -- absolutely nothing -- to do with "standing". It's that no one in a position of authority -- no judge and certainly no politician -- wants to go down in history as the one responsible for impeaching or removing the first "black" president (even though, of course, the petty tyrant is only fractionally "black" and, more importantly, what is being attacked here by the petty tyrant is the U.S. Constitution itself!)
Maybe if the MAJORITY (i.e., repubs) in the House would stop funding these illegal moves (and others) they could “do something.” They won’t, however, because they are weak, feckless, spineless, leaderless, ba**less, gelded, whiny, insipid and timid. Whatever happened to the “power of the purse”?
Why not try impeachment? What have they got to lose? Oh, he’s black.
I am very discouraged. Can you imagine the damage Obama will do in three more years?
Interesting that Mr. Lee is so resigned over this.
You can only try.
Write up articles of impeachment. Give it a try. What are they afraid of?
Riots by the Angry Black supporters of the Thug?
Other men fight and die in places like Afghanistan and Iraq over far less, sent there by “men” like Mr. Lee...who I thought had something going.
Yeah ... you’d think the timid members of the GOP caucus would be able to deal with something they undoubtedly know a lot about ... Purses!
He should be hanged for treason.
No, it’s simpler than that. Just cut off the money. God loves Lee and Cruz and ao do I, but “Republicans” COULD STOP THIS if they had the balls to do it!
And , I mean ALL OF IT!!!
Call the bastards bluff and “shut er down”. Approve only payments for which there is money in the bank! That’s about 80%. So be it!!
So, pubbies are just as much to blame “as a party” as the democrats. Period!
He's not saying it shouldn't be done if such a viable legal situation happens.
So does this mean that ‘Washington Republicans” think we have a faulty Constitution? Maybe they should join The Bozo in overturning it.
We can’t impeach 0bama until we take the Senate back. Currently, 0bama could throw live babies into a wood chipper on prime time TV and the Senate would still do nothing.
“... and they would have a tough time finding somebody hurt enough by the delays to be a good plaintiff.”
It would be easy to find a plaintiff.
Find an employer with 110 employees forced to provide insurance, to sue over his disadvantage competing with an employer with 95 employees that doesn’t have to provide insurance.
Find an employee in a 90 employee company, in a state with no Medicaid expansion, that doesn’t get insurance, and makes too much for Medicaid.
Both cases should be easy to find.
If the senate remains democrat majority, the house should still initiate impeachment. It is better to initiate the process and let the dems be on record as supporting the criminal as they did Clinton. And drag him through his own feces for 2 years.
“He’s not saying it shouldn’t be done if such a viable legal situation happens.”
Quite right, Lee is not saying this BUT HE IS DOING IT. Very “smart”.
The pubs are loathe to pursue challenges because they fear domestic unrest. They hope to undo the damage after o is gone. Not realistic.
The bottom line is that congress is full of very wealthy men; and rich conservatives are financially at risk if society goes boink.....if they are pauperized with hiring attorneys to defend themselves from federal agencies whose heads are committed to revolution.....if the banks close...if they are detained......if the EPA and NLRB war against their businesses or those in which they have interest.
The situation is not quite bad enough for then to pledge their sacred honor and fortunes....their lives. They, rather, think wishfully for devine Intervention.....or simply to be on the suriving side at the end of this ague.
They have allowed o to proceed unchecked too long. Critical mass is close or past. We descend, I think.
My unlearned opinion.
It is no skin off Valerie’s nose, she is not going to be impeached.
No it won't. Republicans never play hardball like the RATS. When the RATS run the House they demand party unity, and take away committee posts if members buck the speaker. The Pubs don't. The Senate pubs refused to use the "nuclear option" to get judges voted on. Harry Reid had no such qualms.
As a side note to this thread, did anything prevent patriots from electing 2/3 conservative majority control of both Houses of Congress by the 2012 elections, such a possibility evidenced by RINOs taking back the House in 2010? I ask this question because, if this scenario had taken place, then Congress would have had the power, under the Constitution’s Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes, and we probably wouldn’t be in the mess that we are now in with Obama, Democrats and RINOs.
With a complicit media, and a public with its head up its anal passageway, there is not much chance for anything to be done about it.
The House has the power of the purse and they should use it to defund Obamas pet projects immediately.