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Pelosi: the Founding Fathers Would Totally Support Obamacare (Uh huh, right)(Insert Sarcasm)
Townhall.com ^ | February 16, 2014 | Sarah Jean Seman

Posted on 02/16/2014 2:22:29 PM PST by Kaslin

America’s Founding Fathers fiercely held to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—values which Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) claimed align seamlessly with Obamacare.

Pelosi explained why the law is “very sound policy” during a press conference Friday:

To go to back to our founders once again, they sacrificed it all for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This law, the affordable care act, is about a healthier life, the liberty to pursue your happiness. That is solid policy, and the mandate is central to that.

This argument should be added to the montage of lies being promulgated by the Obama administration.

More than half of Americans oppose Obamacare and 56% claim the law is more about bolstering government control than it is about helping individuals get health care.

The millions kicked off their insurance certainly do not find the policy freeing, neither do millennials forced to pay for healthcare feel liberated.

Obamacare is precisely the type of overbearing government policy that the Founders would have fought against:

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood." - James Madison

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground that 'all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states or to the people.' To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power not longer susceptible of any definition." - Thomas Jefferson

Pelosi really ought to know her history better. Perhaps this way she could help protect rather than destroy the values for which the Founders fought.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; abortion; deathpanels; democratcare; foundingfathers; nancypiglosi; obamacare; zerocare
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1 posted on 02/16/2014 2:22:29 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the founding fathers of Russia.


2 posted on 02/16/2014 2:25:47 PM PST by shelterguy (at theiur fundraining letters tell me.)
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To: Kaslin

Collecting data on everyone’s health records and putting it in a huge database, ultimately putting us all at the mercy of the people who populate and maintain this database.

Providing “insurance” for everyone, and taxing people if they don’t buy it.

Having committees decide what medical services qualify for funding, and deciding who can receive medical service from limited resources.

Right, the founding fathers would approve of this intrusion into our rights, our privacy, our liberty. Sure, Nancy.


3 posted on 02/16/2014 2:27:47 PM PST by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

When asked where it was authorized in the constitution, Pelosi laughed, “The constitution?” As if it were a totally irrelevant document. Obviously it is to her. Just like the founders are irrelevant to her. The woman is an absolute traitor.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 2:28:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Rocky

Nancy is an idiot


5 posted on 02/16/2014 2:28:31 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin

Pelosi doesn’t need to learn history. History is whatever a liberal says it is.


6 posted on 02/16/2014 2:28:34 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Kaslin

She must count Marx, Lenin, Stalin, & Trotsky as founding fathers then.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 2:28:49 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Kaslin

The Founders sought to limit government, not involve it in every aspect of people’s lives.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 2:29:58 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Kaslin

Are the botox injections squeezing on her brain or does she just need an intervention for her crack addiction problem?


9 posted on 02/16/2014 2:30:58 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Kaslin

Mao and Deng Xiaoping?


10 posted on 02/16/2014 2:32:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Kaslin

The Founders: This is what we worked so hard for? Who is this cretin?


11 posted on 02/16/2014 2:35:25 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Kaslin

The democrat oracle speaks out.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 2:35:29 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Kaslin

If King George had tried a scheme like 0bamaCare our Founding Fathers would have crossed the Atlantic and taken the war to British soil.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 2:37:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kaslin

“That’s why they put it right there in The Constitution! Free Health Care for all- just look it up”


14 posted on 02/16/2014 2:37:48 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Kaslin

Pelosi: “ To go to back to our founders once again, they sacrificed it all for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This law, the affordable care act, is about a healthier life, the liberty to pursue your happiness. That is solid policy, and the mandate is central to that.”


Let’s follow her stretched brain’s logic. Forcing Americans to purchase shoddy service is to her the key to a free life?

The shoddy service leads to lesser quality of health than either people who choose their own providers and pay for them, or people who eschew much medical treatment and go for prevention via their lifestyle. Using the doctors and hospitals who accept obamacare = the cheapest medicines, the more sick and diseased in the hospitals and waiting rooms. The doctors least likely to insist on testing for nutritional deficiencies. THUS OBAMACARE CLEARLY LEADS TO POORER HEALTH.

So forcing Americans into the narrow chutes to poorer health will give you liberty to have more fun?

If I took a gun and forced a man to walk through St Elsewhere in any urban downtown in the country, force him to touch the linens, eat a meal there, take a shower inside a patient room, and get a sponge bath from Harvey, he will be healthier after?

And then thus freer to live a pleasant life? But he wasn’t free to choose which hospital to walk through, was he?

So first we must take away “choice” - something I thought Pelosi was especially in favor of.

Why does no one just up and call her the biggest idiot of all time? The Emperor’s New Clothes: it is us.


15 posted on 02/16/2014 2:38:02 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin

She is mentally damaged, delusional, and is a risk to herself and others.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 2:38:11 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Kaslin

Do the idiots behind her know they look even stupider than her?


17 posted on 02/16/2014 2:38:15 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Kaslin
Trey Gowdy got it right...
18 posted on 02/16/2014 2:38:16 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: Kaslin

Who really cares what this basket of crazy-snakes, this cocaine-addled freak, this Cryptkeeper Botox Special, has to say about ANYTHING?


19 posted on 02/16/2014 2:39:06 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kaslin

Nan is an air head of the highest order.


20 posted on 02/16/2014 2:39:16 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The woman is an absolute traitor."

Damn right she is, and I consider it akin to blasphemy for her to even pretend to understand how the founding fathers would view ANY topic. The founding fathers would see her to a prison cell at the very least.

21 posted on 02/16/2014 2:39:25 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Kaslin
"Obamacare is precisely the type of overbearing government policy that the Founders would have fought against:"

It's precisely the kind of tyranny they DID fight against!

The ObamaCare "tax" is taxation without representation. It did not originate in the House and it was never voted on by OUR representatives. Was forced on ALL the people by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al, via duplicitous parliamentary procedure and without a single Republican vote and was ridiculously upheld by 5 black robed rulers. Traitors. This is tyranny.

22 posted on 02/16/2014 2:39:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The left hates the constitution


23 posted on 02/16/2014 2:45:15 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Why do we have these people take oaths to uphold the constitution?? They don’t even know what it is!!


24 posted on 02/16/2014 2:51:46 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin

How anyone can take anything she says seriously is a complete mystery.

Not only did she insult our intelligence and our American heritage by telling us that Congress had to pass a law so we could find out what was in it, but she made sure it passed without ever even reading it herself.

No Republicans with access to a public microphone or forum should never ever hear her name mentioned without bring up those facts.

It is the fault if conservatives and even RINOs that she is not a total laughing stock.


25 posted on 02/16/2014 2:59:55 PM PST by Maceman
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To: Kaslin

The dumbest woman in the House speaks.


26 posted on 02/16/2014 3:04:47 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Kaslin

Our Founding Fathers burned down houses and hanged the likes of Nancy Pelosi.


27 posted on 02/16/2014 3:05:21 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Yaelle

They know alright what it is. they just hate it


28 posted on 02/16/2014 3:05:50 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Nasty is embracing the suck.


29 posted on 02/16/2014 3:07:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Kaslin

Just like they supported King George.


30 posted on 02/16/2014 3:07:33 PM PST by Know et al (Spill chick want ketch awl yore miss takes.)
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To: SandRat

Well, Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky weren’t really the founders of Russia. More likely the Soviet Union


31 posted on 02/16/2014 3:10:08 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: mkmensinger

The Founders would be saying, “What the blazes is this?” if confronted with the plan for the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010”.

The only part of the title of that act that reflects even a particle of reality is “2010”, marking the year of its passage. Almost every passage within the some 2,500 pages (itself some kind of monument to minutia) is denial of human spirit, with prohibitions on what is permitted, together with the spelling out of severe penalties for failure to comply.

If ever there were a call for civil disobedience, this document is certainly a rallying point.

“Don’t get sick, and if you do, die quickly” - this atrocity of a law enshrines that principle, while disguised as some kind of benefit for the masses. A massive series of taxes and regulation upon commerce, the very bad law that was introduced with this poorly considered legislation is being routinely ignored even by the people who are ordained by law to enforce it.

If Obamacare is not good enough to be enforced to the letter, it is not good enough to be obeyed by anybody.


32 posted on 02/16/2014 3:11:10 PM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: Kaslin
Sounds as if Dr Pelosi is trying to use this on the public.


33 posted on 02/16/2014 3:13:10 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ray76
Pelosi behaves like most Leftists/Democrat Socialists do ...

If Pelosi studied American history for more than 5 minutes (and we all know she has) she knows that what she said is not true --- it's simply not true. But she wants so very much to believe it she thinks that by saying it out loud it must be true.

Another example (one of literally hundreds I've heard since 2008) -- Just the other day I had a self-described "progressive" tell me with complete certainty and with a straight face that obama is not only an honest person, he is the most honest president we've ever had ... and she absolutely believes that ... absolutely ... oh, and she's an adult not some star-struck teenager.

I ended the conversation by telling her we have a radically different perception of reality. Her response: "OK".

34 posted on 02/16/2014 3:20:08 PM PST by glennaro
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35 posted on 02/16/2014 3:21:33 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Jim Robinson

Word is that none of the founders read the Declaration of Independence before they signed it. John Hancock told them they had to sign it before they could know what was in it.


36 posted on 02/16/2014 3:22:59 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

LOL


37 posted on 02/16/2014 3:23:37 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Kaslin

She gets dumber and more stupid with each passing day.


38 posted on 02/16/2014 3:26:25 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: Kaslin
I found it very, very easy to absolutely hate Nancy Pelosi with a white hot passion.

But, thanks to the study program she and obama put me on, I now feel only pity and very, very sorry for her.

Given her age, she likely has but a short time to see her situation clearly before reaping the eternal consequences for all she's done and all she's lead astray.

And, seriously, how likely is that miracle to happen?

Poor, foolish, sad, little lost girl Nancy...all your sins remembered, but any forgiven?

39 posted on 02/16/2014 3:30:43 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kaslin

Pelosi: weapons grade stupidity.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 3:44:22 PM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Kaslin

The founding fathers would have had traitors like Pelosi hung.


41 posted on 02/16/2014 3:46:12 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Kaslin
Pelosi would not know a principled ideal if one jumped up and smacked her plastic face.......
42 posted on 02/16/2014 3:52:27 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Amagi

Yeah...just when I think Nazi Pelousy couldn’t say anything any more stupid than whatever she said last, she goes and surprises the hell out of me.


43 posted on 02/16/2014 3:53:38 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Kaslin

Pelosi’s wheel may still be turning, but her hamster is dead.


44 posted on 02/16/2014 4:01:33 PM PST by abclily
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To: Kaslin

“Slavery is freedom”


45 posted on 02/16/2014 4:05:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Up is down...down is up...right is wrong...wrong is right... Typical brain-addled LIB/DIM. DIMs/LIBs should never be allowed to have any position of responsibility or authority. Truly, they are INSANE.
46 posted on 02/16/2014 4:07:54 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: shelterguy

Right about now, someone would be doing the “off her meds” line, but, as we know, there is still no suitable treatment for Alzheimer’s Syndrome. So, there are no medicines from which she can be “off”.


47 posted on 02/16/2014 4:23:38 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Kaslin

This woman makes a brick look like brilliant.


48 posted on 02/16/2014 4:26:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Kaslin
This woman makes a brick look like brilliant.

At least the brick knows when to shut up.

49 posted on 02/16/2014 4:27:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Kaslin
Well, let's take a look:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Looks to me as if the Founders believed that these RIGHTS came from our Creator, not from government.

If Nancy would read a little further she would find out that when government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to ABOLISH it. I think Nancy needs to be abolished.

50 posted on 02/16/2014 4:29:59 PM PST by William Tell
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