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John McCain: Ted Cruz had "no plan" on debt limit
CBS ^ | February 16, 2014, 3:04 PM | Jake Miller

Posted on 02/16/2014 3:21:21 PM PST by SoConPubbie

Rather than allowing Senate Democrats to pass the bill with their own 55-seat majority, however, Cruz insisted on a 60-vote threshold, forcing a handful of Republicans help move the bill forward. No Senate Republicans ultimately voted to pass the legislation, but Cruz’s maneuver ruffled some feathers among his colleagues who felt he forced them to take an unpopular vote without any clear strategy to pass an alternative bill.

The Treasury Department has warned that a failure to extend the borrowing authority on time could invite a default on the nation’s debt.

Shortly after the bill passed on Wednesday, Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., took a swipe at Cruz’s tactics, saying the Texas Republican had no “end game.”

Corker also praised the fortitude of Senate Republican leaders who helped advance the bill, saying they demonstrated “tremendous courage,” especially given the primary fights some of them are facing in 2014.

McCain echoed that commendation Sunday. “I appreciate our leadership voting the way that they did, even though they face primary oppositions,” he said. “There was enough of us that we move forward and put this issue behind us, and now focus on Obamacare, on the economy, on many other issues, in which we think are winning issues.”

Cruz has defended his approach to the debt ceiling vote, saying Republicans should put up or shut up if they’re so opposed to extending the U.S. borrowing authority.

“I recently had my staff print out a list of three pages of Republican senators — I might note all the people that are running around the press saying nasty things about me — saying ‘We will stand on the debt ceiling and fight for it,’” Cruz told conservative radio host Mark Levin on Thursday.  “And then a few months later, it’s like they think the American people are just a bunch of rubes, that we don’t remember what they say.”

McCain and Cruz have clashed in the past, with McCain dubbing Cruz and some of his like-minded colleagues “wacko birds.” He later apologized for the label, but he’s continued to criticize Cruz’s confrontational style and tactics.


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1 posted on 02/16/2014 3:21:21 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; tbw2; Ricebug; parthian shot; mrsmel; infool7; SunshinesStormySummerSon; Ditter; ...

Seems we have a few freepers getting their talking points from the GOP-E!

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


2 posted on 02/16/2014 3:22:44 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
The senators really, really didn't like having their duplicity exposed. That's why they are angry.

/johnny

3 posted on 02/16/2014 3:24:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SoConPubbie

McCain you are one big liar and a sorry politician and a very poor American.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 3:25:10 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: SoConPubbie

So, Mr. Corker and Mr. McCain, what is your end game? Other than kissing Obama’s ass.

I just realized that I agree with a lot of democrats on one issue. We both hate Corker.


5 posted on 02/16/2014 3:25:21 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: SoConPubbie

A plan to resist is much better than a plan to surrender.


6 posted on 02/16/2014 3:25:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yeah, and you Juanito McLame had a plan:

The plan to let Dictator 0bama spend trillions more on the destruction of the nation.

At least Juanito doesn’t have to worry about his great great grandchildren’s slavery to pay off the 0bama debt. With his wife’s hundred$ of million$ of dollars and his political connections, they will skate through life, unlike the great great grandchildren of most of us peasants.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 3:26:47 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: SoConPubbie

Shove it, McSmegma.

As if you would have a plan...for anything except finding another camera and microphone.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 3:28:10 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SoConPubbie

McCain is one of the arrogant RINOs who helped put the country on the brink of disaster.

If he had any manners at all he would just shut up and get out of the way of people who want to end his kind of madness and restore the Constitution.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 3:28:54 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: SoConPubbie

He’s a MAVERICK!


10 posted on 02/16/2014 3:29:08 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: SoConPubbie

What happened to being a maverick?


11 posted on 02/16/2014 3:30:18 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SoConPubbie

The undocumented democrat speaks.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 3:30:57 PM PST by RginTN
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To: SoConPubbie

John McCain had no clue!


13 posted on 02/16/2014 3:31:29 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Shut-up Juan!
..when have you (in recent years) ever
cared about anything, but yourself?
..you scurrilous horse turd.

14 posted on 02/16/2014 3:32:38 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: SoConPubbie

McCain: “ I appreciate how hard it ijh keeping pashe with our brothers and sisters acrosh the aisle, even when shome of them have to worry about crajy tea party voterjh back home...”


15 posted on 02/16/2014 3:33:35 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SoConPubbie

And John McCain had whatever plan the democrats gave him.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 3:33:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoConPubbie

So John McLame what was your plan? Come now John Obama is such a nice guy. Really John what about all the work you and Odingle Obama did together and than he took all the credit while he was a senator. You were angry as a hornet, and your language was not repeatedly on FR. John explain to th rest of the USA why Arizona voted to censure you. John McLame is useless.


17 posted on 02/16/2014 3:34:20 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: VerySadAmerican
So, Mr. Corker and Mr. McCain, what is your end game? Other than kissing Obama’s ass.

Their end game is simple: keep kicking the can past the next election and hope they die before the debt turns the United States into Cuba.

18 posted on 02/16/2014 3:35:45 PM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: SoConPubbie

I must have missed it. What was the plan of the Bozo from Arizona?


19 posted on 02/16/2014 3:36:14 PM PST by stevem
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To: SoConPubbie

Ted Cruz knows full well 0bummer will up the debt another 3 to 4 trillion in three years if he keeps getting a blank check that RINOs keep giving him.


20 posted on 02/16/2014 3:36:57 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: SoConPubbie
Hmmm... and this today from Townhall:

The Underpants Gnome Caucus" (a.k.a. But Cruz Has No Plan! Ohs Noes!)

21 posted on 02/16/2014 3:37:39 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: oldbrowser
Their end game is simple: keep kicking the can past the next election and hope they die before the debt turns the United States into Cuba.

Too bad we can't punish these people now for the disaster they are setting in motion.

22 posted on 02/16/2014 3:38:18 PM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: stevem
What was the plan of the Bozo from Arizona?

Criticize Ted Cruz apparently.

23 posted on 02/16/2014 3:38:27 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SoConPubbie

Ted Cruz has no plan? John Mc Cain “ We’re broke but we must keep spending! And if one more person asks me about Christians in Syria, I simply may not be responsible for my actions....”


24 posted on 02/16/2014 3:39:25 PM PST by allendale
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To: SoConPubbie

Get McCain out of there. He’s an idiot.

There are reasons to criticize Cruz and think that his approach is unproductive, but NONE of them justify McCain and his constant treachery.


25 posted on 02/16/2014 3:40:11 PM PST by livius
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To: SoConPubbie

You better have a plan for retirement, McLame.


26 posted on 02/16/2014 3:40:14 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: mulligan

Oh, yeah, Ted Cruz DOES have a plan on the debt limit. But he cannot implement it without the help of a few of his fellow Senators.

And among the Senators that are NOT helping, include John McCain. Absolutely no leverage was available to use against the Current Occupant now squatting in the White Hut.


27 posted on 02/16/2014 3:41:44 PM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: SoConPubbie

How about this for a plan, you good-for-nuthins?

Spend less of the taxpayers’ money.

Or do you need something with all single-syllable words so you can understand it?


29 posted on 02/16/2014 3:43:23 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: SoConPubbie; Balding_Eagle
"I fully support the limited government, Constitutional conservatism Ted Cruz desires, but I also recognize he has no strategy to achieve it. "

Whether this is true or not, it does appear that way to me also, which is why I think WI Governor Walker is Presidential material.


It this where you are getting your talking points Balding_Eagle?
30 posted on 02/16/2014 3:44:42 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; All

Cruz just exposed how liberal a lot of GOP are...

Now, will GOP voters wise up and remember? Lets stop voting for these Liberals


31 posted on 02/16/2014 3:45:26 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: SoConPubbie

McCain says: “There was enough of us that we move forward and put this issue behind us, and now focus on Obamacare, on the economy, on many other issues, in which we think are winning issues.”

WTF? He’s for Obamacare. I’ve NEVER heard him say a peep against it. Am I wrong?

Hey McCain, you can’t win if you don’t fight back!


32 posted on 02/16/2014 3:45:38 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: SoConPubbie

Kind of like when McCain had no plan to win the presidency back in 2008?


33 posted on 02/16/2014 3:45:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: SeminoleCounty

bump


34 posted on 02/16/2014 3:45:45 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SoConPubbie; RIghtwardHo
No. In short, Helms had a plan (whether you agreed with it or not). He was always working to that end goal. Cruz just rolls grenades in a room. While I’m all about shaking things up, that’s all he’s about.

He’s not a leader and has no plan short of the moment. I know it is not the majority opinion here, but I am singularly unimpressed with Cruz. He’s way too frat-boy.
Is this where you are getting your talking points from RightwardHo, John McCain?
35 posted on 02/16/2014 3:48:48 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
McCains plan:

SPEND SPEND SPEND!

BUSINESS AS USUAL!

COUNTRY CLUB CRONYISM!

GOOD OL BOYS NETWORK!

DEFEAT THE TEA PARTY!!

36 posted on 02/16/2014 3:50:21 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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37 posted on 02/16/2014 3:54:23 PM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., took a swipe at Cruz’s tactics, saying the Texas Republican had no “end game.”

That's the problem with today's Republicans - they are afraid to act if they don't know with 100% what the "end game" outcome is.

Democrats don't care about the end game. They know that anything can happen once you engage and start mixing things up.

-PJ

38 posted on 02/16/2014 3:56:58 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: humblegunner

Maverick or Marxist?

Pray America wakes up


39 posted on 02/16/2014 3:59:38 PM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 coming soon)
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To: SoConPubbie

All one needs to know about McCain
40 posted on 02/16/2014 4:03:11 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SoConPubbie

Having spent some time in Phoenix schools before and after WWII service I am befuddled that the people of Arizona would vote for McCain the second time let alone the first time. My guess would be the increased Mexican population and a lot of war hero propaganda was the key. Of course having a brother who was killed on Okinawa fighting all the way against enemies probably clouds my emotions.


41 posted on 02/16/2014 4:03:58 PM PST by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: SoConPubbie

How about taking a stand against more government spending senator? Why is it the GOP always reacting to one bad liberal policy after another by coming up with an alternative plan to the bad policy. The taxpayers are more agitated with Washington spending us into oblivion than concerned with another spending plan. The Democratic Party is a sitting duck but the GOPe keeps giving them a lifeline. Hold the line and the Democratic Party will implode upon itself. They have nothing in their arsenal but threats and scare tactics for the voters. Their liberal ideas have been thoroughy repudiated and now it’s long past time to destroy those people once and for all.


42 posted on 02/16/2014 4:10:36 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m sure McCain has more plans to subvert the Constitution.


43 posted on 02/16/2014 4:12:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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44 posted on 02/16/2014 4:12:29 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: noinfringers2

I am befuddled that the people of Arizona would vote for
McCain the second time let alone the first time.

*********************

Heck they have elected McCain twice as a Representative and
then five times as their senator.


45 posted on 02/16/2014 4:22:02 PM PST by deport
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To: SoConPubbie
Please put me on the Ted Cruz ping list.
Thanks,
TWB
46 posted on 02/16/2014 4:25:17 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: SoConPubbie

Wow...McCain & Rove never say a think about Obama or DEMS....but they sure say a lot about the Tea Party folks. hmmmmm! Looks like I may just have to leave the party.


47 posted on 02/16/2014 4:29:39 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: SoConPubbie
Seems we have a few freepers getting their talking points from the GOP-E!

I have a hard time telling whether they are fellow travelers or useful idiots for the GOP-E.

48 posted on 02/16/2014 4:42:47 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: stevem
I must have missed it. What was the plan of the Bozo from Arizona?

I remember his plan: "My friends, you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration."

49 posted on 02/16/2014 4:45:16 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I heard Cruz being interviewed by Mark Liven Radio and his End Game was very clear. His intent was to inform the consistencies of the Republican Senators as to what they were really doing, to expose their attempts at lying to the citizens. Cruz said if he did not insist on a full vote of the Senate, as he was entitled to under senate rules, that the Democrats would have been able to vote and carry the Budget by a simple vote of 51 Democrats; and the Republicans, all 40 plus could JUST say they voted against the lifting of the debt ceiling. On the other hand by Cruz being able to force the 60% vote, Cruz was able to expose to the Republican voters what their individual Senators were doing, voting YES or NO for the extension of the debt limit. He thought the citizens were entitled to know HOW FAR THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS WERE WILLING TO FIGHT/GO REGARDING LIMITING FEDERAL SPELLING.
Suits me, but then I have already left the Republican party, though I might be able to vote for one or two, depending upon the issue.


50 posted on 02/16/2014 4:45:18 PM PST by BilLies (330,000 WHITE Union military went to their deaths to free the slaves .... REALLY???!!!)
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