Skip to comments.Republicans warn against 2016 strategy that goes overboard...(SecyState&Bengazi:fair game)
Posted on 02/16/2014 3:59:23 PM PST by INVAR
Former Bush administration adviser Karl Rove on Sunday cautioned Republicans against a 2016 presidential election strategy that focuses too much on the political history of potential Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.
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Leave Hillary alone! screams Rove to Conservatives more than 2 years OUT from the supposed national elections in 2016.
this rove fellow is such an appeaser.
I’m sure bringing up Benghazi will be said to be ‘off limits’ by the Republican Leadership.
Yeah, because that gloves-off policy on Obama worked out sooo well, eh?
Because destroying Romney early didn’t work for Obama at all.
We’ll just tell the truth about her.
Simple rule, whatever Rove says just do the opposite.
Rove wishes to duplicate McCain and McRomney’s stellar campaigns.
Remember, he’s running down to Texas to try and push votes for Debt Hike Cornyn.
so it will be like Fight Club but it’s Hillary Club:
1) Do not talk about Benghazi
2) There was no Benghazi screw up
3) What benghazi screw up?
Someone forgot the barf alert
Remember that 60 Minutes appearance Hillary made with Bill in 1992 where they both denied it to save The Rapist's candidacy?
That would make a great campaign ad for her opponent.
“barf” barely begins to cover it.
Sorry, Rove, but I want a real conservative at 1600. Ted Cruz or Scott Walker are two of my front runner.
We will do what we damn well pleased.
And what we please is to ACTUALLY WIN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!
No one could have possibly predicted in advance that Myth Romney of RomneyCare fame would lose to Obama. /sarc
That was my thought. After all, he has done so well in advising past elections, hasn’t he?
I like that ...
I think it’s good for people to be reminded of the Clinton antics.
Rove is a political prostitute who takes his fee from the republican high spenders. Among his customers are the Bush family, all of them including the neo-USA Mexicans.
I think it’s good for people to be reminded of the Clinton antics.
1) Clintons own words show his often expressed innate hostility to, and utter contempt for, the core principles of the American founding:
``If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the governments ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees. -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993
``The purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people - Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993
``We cant be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans that we forget about reality. -- President Bill Clinton, quoted in USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A, ``NRA change: `Omnipotent to powerful by Debbie Howlett
When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly that they would work for the common good, as well as for the individual welfare However, now theres a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say theres too much freedom. When personal freedoms being abused, you have to move to limit it. Bill Clinton, April 19, 1995
2) Clinton inevitably pursued his own political advantage at the expense of American interests and national security. Here is just one of many possible examples:
It is well documented that Clinton and the Democrats took illegal campaign money from groups and individuals tied directly to the Chinese Peoples Republican Army. It is therefore not surprising that In January 1998 Clinton went against the advice of then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher and Pentagon experts by lifting long-standing restrictions against the export of American satellites to China for launch on Chinese rockets. Not only did he move control over such decisions from the more security-focused State Department to the Commerce Department, but he intervened in a Justice Department investigation of Loral Space & Communications, retroactively enabling Loral to sell critical missile technology to the Chinese. Interestingly enough, Clintons decision was made at the request of Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, whose earlier $1.3 million campaign donation made him the single biggest contributor to the Democratic election effort.
The result, as stated eloquently by syndicated columnist Linda Bowles, was that the Democrats got money from satellite companies and from Chinese communists; China got supercomputors, advanced production equipment and missile technology; Loral got its satellites launched at bargain basement prices . . . and the transfer of sensitive missile technology gave China [for the first time] the capability of depositing bombs on American cities. Incidentally, Loral ultimately failed to benefit from this permanent injury to Americas security interests: in July 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, and in order to raise cash was forced to sell its most profitable business a fleet of communications satellites orbiting over North America.
3) On two occasions, Clinton used military action for the specific purpose of distracting the American public from the fallout of the Lewinsky affair:
On August 20, three days after Clinton finally admitted publicly to the Lewinsky affair, the news media was poised to focus on that days grand jury testimony by Monica Lewinsky. That same morning, Clinton personally went on national television to gravely announce his bombing of a Sudanese chemical weapons factory, and a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. It was the first time most Americans ever heard the name of Osama bin Laden. The factory bombing in Sudan killed an innocent night watchman, but accomplished little else. It later was proven that the plant was making badly needed pharmaceuticals for people in that poverty-stricken part of the world, but no chemical weapons.
Several months later, the U.S. Center for Nonproliferation Studies, part of the Monterey Institute of International Studies, stated: "...the evidence indicates that the facility had no role whatsoever in chemical weapons development." Kroll Associates, one of the world's most reputable investigative firms, also confirmed that there was no link in any way between the plant and any terrorist organization. As for the Afghanistan bombing, it failed to do any damage at all to bin Laden or his organization. Clintons action was accurately characterized by George W. Bush when he said right after 9-11: "When I take action, Im not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.
Clintons pointless and murderous military actions did not make Americans safer that day, although they did destroy an innocent life, and for all the good they did certainly could have been delayed in any case. But they did succeed in diverting media attention from Lewinskys grand jury testimony for a 24-hour news cycle, which was the main point. So I guess, they werent a total loss.
On December 16, 1998, on the eve of the scheduled House vote on his impeachment, Bill Clinton launched a surprise bombing attack on Baghdad. As justification for this exploit, he cited the urgent threat that Saddams weapons of mass destruction posed to America, and the need for immediate action. Almost immediately, the House Democrats held a caucus and emerged calling for a delay in the impeachment proceedings. House minority leader Dick Gephardt made a statement: "We obviously should pass a resolution by saying that we stand behind the troops. I would hope that we do not take up impeachment until the hostilities have completely ended."
Conveniently, a delay so near the end of the House term would have caused the vote to be taken up in the next session when the newly elected House membership would be seated with more Democratic representation, thereby improving Clintons chances of dodging impeachment.
The Republicans did, in fact, agree to delay the hearings, but only for a day or two. Amazingly, Clinton ended the bombing raid after only 70 hours -- once it became clear that in spite of the brief delay, the vote would still be held in the current session.
Once the bombing stopped, Clinton touted the effectiveness and importance of the mission. As reported by ABC News : We have inflicted significant damage on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction programs, on the command structures that direct and protect that capability, and on his military and security infrastructure, he said. Defense secretary William Cohen echoed the point: We estimate that Saddam's missile program has been set back by at least a year.
Whether or not one buys Clintons assessment of that mission, it is difficult to believe that its timing was so critical that it required commencement virtually at the moment the House was scheduled to vote on the impeachment. I think the most reasonable conclusion is that Clinton cynically deployed US military assets and placed military personnel in harms way for purely political reasons.
4) Clintons reckless sexual behavior was a threat to American national security:
Clinton and his supporters have been very effective in persuading large numbers of Americans that the Lewinsky scandal was only about sex. But I see a bigger issue here, because Clinton is on record as saying that he would have done anything to keep knowledge of the Lewinsky affair from becoming public.
To me, that statement raises a very serious question: What if, instead of sending her recorded Lewinsky conversations to Ken Starr, Linda Tripp had instead secretly offered them for sale, say, to the Chinese government? Or to the Russians? Or even to agents of Saddam?
What kind of blackmail leverage would those tapes have provided to a foreign government in dealing with America on sensitive trade, security or military issues? One of the few things Clinton ever said that I believe is that he would have done anything to keep the Lewinsky affair secret. Given his demonstrated track record of selling out American interests for personal or political gain (and there are more examples that I could have cited here), how far would he have gone in compromising Americas real interests in order to protect his own neck when threatened with blackmail?
Pretty far, I believe. Equally distressing is the prospect Clinton might, in fact, have succumbed to foreign black mail on other occasions in order to hide different sexual episodes that ultimately did not become public. There is no way to know, of course, but I prefer presidents for whom such a scenario is not a plausible possibility.
And dont even get me started on the war crime in Kosovo.
WAR IN KOSOVO
During Bill Clintons 1999 NATO-led war in Kosovo which according to some estimates cost as much as $75 billion we bombed Belgrade for 78 days, killed almost 3,000 civilians, and shredded the civilian infrastructure (including every bridge across the Danube.)
We devastated the environment, bombed the Chinese embassy, came very close to engaging in armed combat against Russian forces, and in general, pursued a horrific and inhumane strategy to rain misery on the civilian population of Belgrade in order to pressure Milosevic into surrendering.
Why did we do all that? The US did not even have an arguable interest in the Balkans, and no one ever tried to claim that Serbia represented any kind of threat to our nation or our interests.
But for months the Clinton administration had told us that Milosevic was waging a vicious genocide against Albanian Muslims, and needed to be stopped. The New York Times called it a humanitarian war. In March 1999 the same month that the bombing started Clintons State Department publicly suggested that as many as 500,000 Albanian Kosovars had been murdered by Milosevics regime. In May of that year, as the bombing campaign was drawing to a close, Secretary of Defense William Cohen lowered that estimate 100,000.
Five years after the bombing, after all the forensic investigations had been completed, the prosecutors at Milosevics War Crimes trial in the Hague were barely been able to document a questionable figure of perhaps 5,000 bodies and body parts. During the war, the American people were told that Kosovo was full of mass graves filled with the bodies of murdered Albanian Muslims. But none were ever found.
BILL CLINTON ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE
During the election cycle of 1992, George H.W. Bush lost his job after Bill Clinton hammered him relentlessly for having caused the worst economy of the last 50 years.
In fact, as CNNs Brooke Jackson has reported: Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office. See (See http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/31/jackson.recession.primer.otsc/).
By the same token, Clinton is generally perceived as having a stellar economic record during his own presidency, in spite of the fact that the economy was already starting to decline during the last year of his term after the stock market crashed in March 2000.
According to a report by MSNBC: The longest economic expansion in U.S. history faltered so much in the summer of 2000 that business output actually contracted for one quarter, the government said Wednesday in releasing a comprehensive revision of the gross domestic product. Based on new data, the Commerce Department said that the GDP the countrys total output of goods and services shrank by 0.5 percent at an annual rate in the July-September quarter of 2000. See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3676690/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/gdp-figures-revised-downward/.
The MSM and the internet have been saturated with pro homosexual propaganda. This is an attempt to desensitize the American people on this issue. The real test will be Hilary Clinton. There is a very good chance that her homosexuality will come out during the 2016 campaign. Then the country will answer her question when she screeched “What does it matter?’ Somehow despite the preparatory barrage, it will turn out to matter. In that case be prepared to see our jet lagged, global trotting Secretary of State, John Kerry, become the Democratic nominee in 2016. He still desperately wants to be President.
I am with you with Walker. I like him.
There is plenty of tapes on Hillary. Her tapes will do that perfectly. We don't have to attack her, just let her attack herself.
Of course, then she will go into her victim mode. Which is her strong suit. She'll cry about how hard she's worked and how much she cares, and how "tawd" she is.
Then we go into her actual record, which there isn't any. She has never accomplished anything of value to anyone except to herself. She has been on the public dole for forty years and has yet to accomplish anything other than political food fights.
Gee, that worked SO WELL last election, and one the before it.
Got a better idea. Pull out the knives and slice her to bits.
I now we’re supposed to hate Rove but Rove destroyed that guy on FNS this morning.
What else does the GOP have to run on?
Another member of the GOP enemy within speaks!
Step aside, you fat, bald little weasel, and let a real man like Ted Cruz show you how to lead.
These sock puppets aren't gonna get by with this again, no more McCains, Romney's slamming their conservative GOP opponents but not laying a velvet glove on whomever runs on the liberals!
TEA party types don't need to show their hands entirely as the media will go after them like an anti-christ demon, a danger to the known world and those undecideds will be "educated" to believe America just can't stand Candidate X!
We didn’t attack the Kenyan and look where that got us. You can’t fix stupid.
The Republican running against Hillary should look straight into the TV camera and ask the American public: “Would you trust your life or your country to someone who blatantly abandoned American citizens in Benghazi while she had the chance to save them? Because if you do, you can kiss your asses and your country goodbye?
But I doubt that the timid Republican would dare to come out swinging — he/she would rather be remembered as a loser who remained “correct and fair” throughout the debates while his/her RAT opponent kicks ass.
Screw you Rove.
That became clear during McCain's run, and was reaffirmed during Romney's. I don't expect the GOP to switch sides away from the DNC any time soon.
Excellent post, Maceman.
People think Obama is the end of America. he is not the end of America.
If Hillary Clinton is elected, SHE will be the end of America.
Because she INTENDS to be the end of America.
.... Because attacking themselves is of utmost importance for their current winning strategy.
The GOP establishment is so afraid of being called names that they are completely willing to lose the presidential election in order to not bring down the wrath of the LSM.
People forget facts like that and the Politicrats know this and capitalize on it.
In my estimation, the ONLY REASON you would advocate NOT attacking the enemy, is when you actually SERVE THE ENEMY.
When will people wake up and understand this fact? The Ruling Class hates us as much as the MarxoFascist Democrats do.
They are all on the same team: Central Government Power.
The reason we will be told to NEVER bring up Hildabeast's record, is to ensure Hildabeast "wins" or at least appears to win.
Rovians would rather the Democrats control all three branches of the government in perpetuity than risk a true Conservative being in any position of power to undo their gravy train.
Is he playing wait until we get a weak Democrat name before we really start fighting? Can’t touch Obama, he is the first black president. Can’t touch Hillary she’s the first woman presidential candidate and former first lady to that great statesman of all time Bill Clinton.
The Republican surrender monkeys are getting into high gear already.
Get another McCain or Romney and kiss Hillary’s ass the whole campaign while she and her people accuse the Republican of eating babies and screwing puppies while stealing grocery carts from homeless people.
this is why a RINO candidate will lose