Skip to comments.Why Lewinsky Shouldn't Be a GOP Talking Point (Barf alert)
Posted on 02/17/2014 8:34:52 AM PST by kristinn
Bill Clinton uses a car-racing metaphor to explain the difference between rash and calm decision-making in politics. The great drivers, when the cars get close, the turns get hairy, they calm down, and they see everything, and they act, he says. The ones who are fearful and can't concentrate and can't calm down, run into the wall.
Republican leaders should pay attention, because on the issue of whether Clintons sex life is relevant 14 years after he left office, theyre once again careening toward a wall.
Sen. Rand Paul dredged up Clintons affair with Monica Lewinsky and his subsequent impeachment, telling an interviewer last month that Democrats dont have the moral high ground on womens issues because the former presidents predatory behavior toward the White House intern.
One of the workplace laws and rules that I think are good is that bosses shouldnt prey on young interns in their office. And I think the media seems to have given President Clinton a pass on this, the Kentucky Republican said on NBCs Meet the Press.
Ill add one more reason. Focusing voters on the past may be a subtle way to argue that Hillary Clinton is not about the future.
Heres the problem: While Clinton bashing may be a good pre-primary tactic, its a lousy politics for the Republican Party in general. We know that because Clinton registered the highest approval ratings of his presidency during the period between the January 1998 exposure of his affair and February 1999, when the Senate voted to acquit him.
In July 2012, Clintons approval rating registered at 66 percent, higher than any time since he left office. Two-thirds of women gave him high marks, as did 44 percent of Republicans.
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OK. Let’s talk about Vince Foster. Brown or any of the others on THE list!
For Ron, it’s bad form - not cricket, to bring up events for which Hillary and Bill have no defense except “BJs aren’t sex” and what the meaning of “is” is.
You have to only bring up Hillary’s record! No, er wait. Anything but BENGHAZI! Anything but what she didn’t do as SoS, anything like that.
Explains why there are so many single Mom families today, they didn't have stable Mom's and Dads to teach them right from wrong.
Sadly, Americans no longer seem to care about the sexual morality of their leaders.
Was it Steinem who said every man gets one free grope. Or something disgusting to that effect?
Anything that does political damage to Hillary must be taken off the table. Lewinsky is bad enough. Don’t even mention Juanita Broaddrick.
Wonder who got the most women Bill or Hillary?.
The libs, and many of the GOP as well, are missing a key point. The left has declared that the GOP is guilty of a “war on women”. In fact, most of the perpetrators of any such war are Democrats. By bring up all of the crimes of Bill and Hillary Clinton, Republicans inoculate themselves from such attacks. Any attack can easily be repelled by turning the tables on the Democrats by bringing up the truth. The “war” will be over.
Mr. Fournier may be tactically correct. When Republicans start talking about women, they sound like textbook misogynists. Calling women - even Hillary - sluts, ugly, whores, fat, c***s, dykes, and so on is not going to win votes.
Clinton paid an intern to lie under oath.
Clinton engaged in workplace sexual harassment.
Clinton’s wife engaged in a campaign of terror and smears against those who might speak out (including the victims).
NOW feminazis don’t give Rat’s a$$ about women.
The War on Woman is being waged alright and the Democrats are the ones against them!
Everyone should read Kathleen Willeys commentary, linked at DRUDGE today.
She’s given us the ultimate talking point:
Whenever the RATs say “War on Women”, we respond by saying:
“Hillary Clinton IS the War on Women!”
Repeat until Nov. 2016.
Democrats were misogynist towards Hillary and even called Bill and Hillary racists during the 2008 primary when she was challenging the Golden Child Barack Hussein Obama. Even Bill spoke out about being called a racist.
After she negotiated a cabinet position, all was forgiven.
The Democrats then doubled up on their misogyny against Sarah Palin (calling her a c**t, a b***h, lynching her in effigy, making rape jokes about her and her daughter on national television).
I ain’t buying it.
The Rats are anti-woman.
The left is screaming about this because they're trying to rewrite history. In reality Hillary aided and abetted a serial sexual predator. She is the anti-women candidate and that point needs to be hammered home.
Personally, I thought the whole thing stunk.
Kenneth Starr was named with the expectation that he would waste vast amounts of money and importantly, time, yet would not seriously investigate any the really illegal crap the Clintons had done. And he did exactly what they wanted him to.
Bill and Hillary were facing dozens of serious felony accusations, none of which were investigated. But to put a final nail into the coffin, to demonstrate that the POTUS is indeed “above the law”, Starr finally took a petty charge, pretended that it mattered, and presented it to the Republican house, knowing full well that the embarrassed senate would never convict.
And they didn’t.
As such, the impeachment was made into a joke, and the Republicans suffered for it, even being berated by their RINO leadership in the senate. The end result was “How DARE you peasants question your betters?”
And that is what the Lewinsky affair amounts to.
It is only being brought up now because both the RINOs and the Democrats think of it as an embarrassment to the conservatives. Like a parent at a dinner party, telling their family friends about embarrassing things their now adult children did when they were young. In front of their adult children.
“Well, little Bobby had just reached puberty and was confused about his sexuality, which explains ‘the monkey incident’ at the zoo.”
Such a display of meanness is not done for Robert’s benefit, but to humiliate him by reminding him of his humiliation.
And by bringing up the Lewinsky affair, that is exactly what the RINO leadership and the Democrats want to happen.
They are once again spitting on us.
I’m a whole lot more worried about Hill’s pro-Islamicist ties than anything Billy might get into (so to speak)...
another 8 years of sell-out to our enemies may very well leave America so weakened as to be unable to ever recover
I agree. However, the MSM conspires to hide a lot of it, while shining a bright light on the attitudes of Republicans.
I don't think that emphasizing Bill Clinton's sexual history is a winning tactic. However, I could be wrong; time will tell.
Frankly, his lying to a Federal grand jury and the raping of Juanita Broaddrick is what is the most important point. Broaddrick can;t bring a case to court, but she can really destroy HC (if Broaddrick does not get destroyed first).
It is about exposing hypocrisy. Hillary was NOT in the dark as she pretends.
She said in 1992 that Gennifer Flowers was a fraud and that Hillary wasn’t some little woman standing by her cheatin’ man.
She is a thug. Even if the Lewinsky affair was consensual and without “coercion”, in the 60s, 70s, and 80s NOW said it was an abuse of power for a boss to hire a pretty secretary and take her willingly for overnight weekend trips for sexual encounters.
And there were plenty of allegations by women who were disgusted by his workplace harassment of them (at least one alleging rape).
This is why the whole issue of whether Bill was engaging in workplace affairs was germane to the Paula Jones’ lawsuit.
Bill Clinton was a sexual predator making unwelcome advances and used police intimidation to get his encounters and keep those who held information quiet.
The problem with Lewinski is it was Bill’s problem.
The only way to make an issue of it is to point out that Hillary was either deliberately covering for Bill, or was ignorant of the relationship. Given Bill’s track record, the latter is hardly possible.
It is more important to go after Hillary’s problems as a policy maker - her catastrophic HEALTH PLAN, her propensity for lying (the “lost” IRS documents and her idiotic statements about Bosnia) and her miserable failure as head of the State Department. The issues with Vince Foster, etc. are also fair game.
But HILLARY should be the target, not Bill. HILLARY is running.
This war on women meme is really off base when you look at the 2012 exit polls. Romney won the white women's vote 56% to 42%. He won the married women's vote 53% to 46%'
What skews the women's vote is race and ethnicity. Obama won the women's vote 55% to 44% largely due to the fact he won the black women's vote 96% to 3% and the latina vote 76% to 23%. All others (excluding whites) including Asians 66% to 31%. Taken together, blacks, latinas, and others constitute 19% of the electorate while white women were 38% of the electorate.
The GOP should be pointing this out.
There really does seem to be a concerted push to MAKE Monica a prime issue agains the Hildabeast.
Not her getting kicked off the Nixon impeachment team for corruption, being disbarred, her roll in the Whitewater scandal, not even her role in the Benghazi cover-up...
Ignore decades of corruption.
Bury those issues.
Make it about sex and her Liberal talking heads can turn it into a “Republican attack on women”/”Hillary was a brave Victim”.
Ron must have missed lying under oath and disbarment for doing so and also disgracing the office of the President. But Ron has always been a Clinton *ss kisser from his Arkansas days, no big surprise.
Rand Paul has a great idea. Bill Clintoon is the leader of the Rat party. Bill Clintoon IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR. So anytime the conversation comes up about the "War on Women" then there should be a strict adherence to hoisting up the Rat party icon and reminding people of his sexual harassment of a young woman college intern!
I would not in general hold it against a woman if her former husband had been a sexual predator; it's easy for a naive young woman to fall for a charming rogue. When a woman has the poor judgement or the lust for power to stay with a known serial predator because of his influence, it reflects on her character. When that woman (as with Hillary) leads the war against those women who tell the truth about a sexual predator and coordinates a "nuts and sluts" campaign to demonize women whose only offense is telling the truth, I consider that to be a central issue. We should attack Hillary because she is a bully, because her actions were evil, and because her conduct was inexcusable, not merely "because of her husband's sex life". The key is to clarify the nature of her offense and not permit the liberal media to make it "just about sex".
Re:Fornigate, Hillary would just shrug and say “WHATEVER.”
But then again, she does that with every scandal.
Will we ever again get to the point of talking freedom, liberty, respect of the Constitution, private property, true prosperity, equality of opportunity vs equality of outcomes, and the joys of being a sovereign nation?
Or is that a hard concept for the party bosses to grasp?
we learned from Sarah Palin that McCains campaign people told her “hands off Obama” and his background.
Rush said today that Romney people told him that the GOP strategy during that campaign was “hands off Obama”.
and now the GOP is telling everyone it’s “hands off Hillary and Bill” and their history.
OK, and we are supposed to think there is NOT a Uniparty??
Just as Mitt Romney apparently thought it was "not cricket" to bring up Benghazi during the debates in 2012. Romney was playing cricket while Obama played hardball.
By all means let’s take advice from an Obama house journalist.
It is more important to go after Hillarys problems as a policy maker - her catastrophic HEALTH PLAN, her propensity for lying (the lost IRS documents and her idiotic statements about Bosnia) and her miserable failure as head of the State Department. The issues with Vince Foster, etc. are also fair game.
I agree that Hillary is hypocritical, and that blaming the women instead of Bill for his behavior is pretty obviously anti-women. However, I don't believe this is the message that will reach the potential voters.
Didn't happen did it Hill?
It won't come from your "free" press that is for sure.
It's a great start, but it needs to be wrapped around the necks of all of the democrats using the meme of "Hillary, Mayor Filner, Anthony Weiner" as being the true example of the true war on women. It's the democrats, stupid. Harassment, it's who they are.
If Hillary will tolerate adultery from her husband, what other evil acts will she tolerate?!
Probably. Considering the condition of our country in so many areas, many existential in nature, the focus on a subject already beat to death seems insignificant.