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Seven questions about transgender issues you were afraid to ask (More PC demands hurl)
Washington Post ^ | February 13, 2014 | Soraya Nadia McDonald

Posted on 02/17/2014 8:43:17 PM PST by Seizethecarp

A flap erupted between writer and trans activist Janet Mock and CNN host Piers Morgan last week after Mock appeared on Morgan’s show to promote her memoir, “Redefining Realness.” Morgan repeatedly asserted that Mock had been “born a boy” or that she “used to be a man.” After her appearance, Mock expressed her disappointment on Twitter.

Morgan invited Mock on his show a second time, where he vociferously defended himself as an ally of LGBT rights, and demanded that Mock explain what he’d done wrong. He said that Mock’s supporters had “abused” and “vilified” him by calling him out on Twitter.

There were several problems with the language Morgan used. For starters, he repeatedly asserted that Mock had formerly been a boy. He also said that Mock had surgery to become a woman. Mock was a woman long before she had the surgery she felt she needed to reflect that. Part of the fight for transgender rights and justice is a fight for self-determination: to be able to proclaim who you are without anyone else adding caveats.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; transgender
Miss Transsexual Manners tells us all what to think, what to say and how to behave around transsexuals to avoid insulting them. The comments section is not going so well for the writer even among the liberal WaPo readership.
1 posted on 02/17/2014 8:43:17 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I don’t care about their issues I have my own issues.


2 posted on 02/17/2014 8:48:20 PM PST by funfan
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To: All

the omnipresent issues of homosexuality, other diversity arguments, and other pc issues give me this chilling feeling of arguing on the deck of the titanic.


3 posted on 02/17/2014 8:49:09 PM PST by willywill
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To: Seizethecarp

they have a perceptual disorder.

it happens.


4 posted on 02/17/2014 8:51:39 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Seizethecarp

Hum, it’s true he was born a man, and even after all the surgeries, he will still be a man. I mean, if he wants to wear dresses, I’m cool with that. he wants to wear makeup, high heels, talk with a high voice, cool, whatever. he wants to have breast implants, and have his penis removed, well that’s got to hurt. But, he’s still a man


5 posted on 02/17/2014 8:53:07 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Seizethecarp

Alas, Brave New Babylon.


6 posted on 02/17/2014 8:53:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Here’s a question I have ........

If they require more than male and female restrooms, do they require 3 or 4?

Male
Female
woman to man
man to woman

Whatever the answer, it’s never enough. They don’t just want to be accepted. They want to ram their lifestyles down our throats.


7 posted on 02/17/2014 8:54:17 PM PST by boycott
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To: funfan

Are we allowed to say that we just don’t care about trans-whatever peoples, or would that enrage the liberals even more????


8 posted on 02/17/2014 8:54:50 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (TH)
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To: Seizethecarp

So if she wants to believe she is an android space alien, others are supposed to respect her desire to believe that despite any physical evidence to the contrary? This is the problem I have with a lot of liberal thinking that the truth is whatever we desire it to be and is in no way connected to reality or scientific fact. If I want to believe I am a canary trapped in a man’s body that I should be allowed to believe this and have my rights protected against anyone who would hurt my feelings by pointing out I have fingers and toes.


9 posted on 02/17/2014 8:56:38 PM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually, they even label THAT attitude as “hate.” Anything other that complete and total support for whatever they do or demand is called “hate.”


10 posted on 02/17/2014 8:58:55 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Seizethecarp
So, the degenerate's basic argument is this:

I am what I wish I was and have always been.

This is the thinking of children and lunatics. By his thinking, I could declare that I am a kangaroo and always have been.

11 posted on 02/17/2014 9:11:42 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: OrangeHoof
Yes, you nailed it. These people are disconnected from reality. The scary part is that they demand we respect their position. I don't and never will, and I suspect many feel likewise.

Morgan's first mistake was inviting a lunatic to his show.

12 posted on 02/17/2014 9:17:08 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Paraphilic disorder is now the norm?


13 posted on 02/17/2014 9:23:38 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Seizethecarp

You do know these people are insane, right?


14 posted on 02/17/2014 9:23:54 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Here is the only question I have - WHEN WILL IT GO AWAY?


15 posted on 02/17/2014 9:23:54 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Hater.

LOL


16 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:24 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Seizethecarp
trans activist Janet Mock . . .

. . . is a Mock woman.

17 posted on 02/17/2014 9:33:26 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Worthy of Mockery.)
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To: boycott
We will become a nation of "one-holers", i.e. one john per bathroom. That's the only way to make moot this whole question of which sex anyone is.

It will cost some businesses a bunch of money, but it will most likely be chump change compared to what they'll be losing on Obamacare.

18 posted on 02/17/2014 9:38:41 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Seizethecarp

Okay, I’m willing to expand my two gender world view to include three genders. Male, female, and freak.


19 posted on 02/17/2014 9:39:28 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
That's the only way to make moot this whole question of which sex anyone is.

As long as there are freaks and perverts they will be trying to shove it down everyones throat

20 posted on 02/17/2014 9:42:23 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Amen.


21 posted on 02/17/2014 9:45:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: funfan

Being taught to be confused about your gender in public schools. If you don’t know who you are you can be easily led astray which is the intent. Somply brainwashed into believing they’re gay so they’ll fall inline behind their gay leader.


22 posted on 02/17/2014 9:50:22 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s an insane world when the insane Piers Morgan is the voice of sanity.

The problem with these insane people is they are fascist.


23 posted on 02/17/2014 9:52:37 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Seizethecarp
I have only one question about this subject.

What would possess this author to be so presumptuous so as to think that I care about "transgendered" persons?
24 posted on 02/17/2014 10:16:39 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Travis McGee

This behavior is demonstrably insane.


25 posted on 02/17/2014 10:20:13 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: realcleanguy

They don’t remove the penis. It is turned outside-in to form a vagina and the testicles are used to form the labia.

There is a video of this ‘surgery’ on YouTube.

I can’t imagine how any man would be willing to mutilate himself like that. It is truly,deeply disturbing.


26 posted on 02/17/2014 10:45:57 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: realcleanguy

It must be extremely painful. All surgery is but this particular type must require some heavy-duty narcotics.


27 posted on 02/17/2014 10:48:32 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Since when did we define our humanity by the predilections of our groin??

Enough of this crap already.

If these people didn't wear their genitalia as some 'red badge of courage' there would likely be few issues, indeed.

Of all the preoccupations!

It only exposes how shallow they are if they can't get past their "sexual identity". They must have little else to define them.

28 posted on 02/17/2014 10:55:34 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Affirmatively participating in another person’s delusion will not cure their mental illness.


29 posted on 02/17/2014 11:01:51 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

Exactly what I always say


30 posted on 02/17/2014 11:13:58 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Seizethecarp

31 posted on 02/17/2014 11:21:09 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Seizethecarp

In most places delusion,,,,,,,, is Legal...


32 posted on 02/17/2014 11:35:28 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: realcleanguy

“But, he’s still a man”

Is this person truly a man? Are all males men? What is your position when the person is born as an hermaphrodite?


33 posted on 02/18/2014 12:35:06 AM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Seizethecarp
Piers . . . Morgan repeatedly asserted that Mock had been “born a boy” or that she “used to be a man.” After her appearance, Mock expressed her disappointment on Twitter.

Mock objects to the statement that he "used to be a man", and so do all sensible people. At least we agree. Mock has chosen to be a castrated, mutilated man, but he's still male.

34 posted on 02/18/2014 1:33:00 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Seizethecarp

The freaks of society are expected to be treated normally. NEVER in my book. They’re pond scum.. like liberals.


35 posted on 02/18/2014 2:03:04 AM PST by maddog55
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To: OrangeHoof

“....... a lot of liberal thinking that the truth is whatever we desire it to be and is in no way connected to reality or scientific fact.”......

That pretty well sums up what liberals think and do.


36 posted on 02/18/2014 4:02:53 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: matt1234
“I could declare that I am a kangaroo and always have been. “

Cool...Are you Australian?!

37 posted on 02/18/2014 4:19:48 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Question 1: “What the heck is that?”

On second thought , no question is better, because I’d like to keep my distance, thank you very much.


38 posted on 02/18/2014 4:23:02 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Seizethecarp

Undergoing genital mutilation doesn’t turn an XY guy into an XX woman.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 4:26:12 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Seizethecarp

As Rush (I think) said “TV is the Museum of Modern Moral Decay” BTW, I thought Piers got canned?


40 posted on 02/18/2014 5:25:29 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, can’t change what God intended you to be no matter how Satan has decieved you.


41 posted on 02/18/2014 5:31:36 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Seizethecarp

You know, when I was a kid, I had a temporary delusion that I was a dog, but I grew out of that stupid idea, and didn’t need steroids and surgery to treat it. Same thing with thinking I was an ape.


42 posted on 02/18/2014 6:49:40 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Seizethecarp

A funny side to this story is that the woman herself presented male for a significant part of her life.

If you had met her then, you’d have called her a man, and she would have agreed.

SO I guess she was also a bigoted hater.


43 posted on 02/18/2014 9:37:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: WhiskeyX

He admits he was a man, and he chose to have surgeries to make him “appear” as a woman, but he’s still a man. Nothing about him being a hermaphodite. Thanks for playing, please try again


44 posted on 02/18/2014 4:46:19 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: realcleanguy

The question was not about that person. The question was how your remarks would differ if and when the person happened to be an hermaphrodite.


45 posted on 02/18/2014 9:24:24 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

It’s not the issue at hand. If you want to have a discussion about Hermaphrodites, post an article about them and start a discussion. Personally I don’t care.

So the real issue at hand is the man who chooses to change his physical appearance but it never changed who he really is


46 posted on 02/19/2014 4:43:57 AM PST by realcleanguy
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