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NOW Demands Wall Street Journal Fire Columnist James Taranto for Promoting 'Rape Culture'
News Busters ^ | February 12, 2014 | Tim Graham

Posted on 02/18/2014 10:50:18 AM PST by SAVEOURSOULS

The National Organization for Women – that deeply principled hive of feminists who never supported the impeachment or resignation of Bill Clinton for lying in a sexual harassment case – has demanded The Wall Street Journal fire columnist James Taranto for arguing against the bizarre notion that the drunker a woman gets, the more guilty a man is for being sexually involved with her.

Taranto was painted as determined to enhance a “rape culture” by daring to argue in his Monday "Best of the Web Today" column that it’s a “drunkenness double standard” to say a woman’s intoxication is an aggravating factor for a man accused of assault:

If two drunk drivers are in a collision, one doesn't determine fault on the basis of demographic details such as each driver's sex. But when two drunken college students "collide," the male one is almost always presumed to be at fault. His diminished capacity owing to alcohol is not a mitigating factor, but her diminished capacity is an aggravating factor for him.

NOW’s press release energetically distorted Taranto’s point, implying the feminist idea that in any rape accusation, there is – verdict first, evidence afterward – a male rapist and a female victim:

In his Monday Wall Street Journal column, James Taranto stated that in sexual assault cases where both the victim and rapist are drunk -- both parties are equally to blame for the attack.

Taranto even went as far as to compare rape to a car crash involving two drunk drivers saying, "one doesn't determine fault on the basis of demographic details such as each driver's sex."

Surely this ugly kind of victim-blaming is beneath the dignity of The Wall Street Journal. Approximately one in four young women will be sexually assaulted during their college career - an alarming statistic that should spur all of us to seek effective policies to provide services to rape survivors and hold perpetrators accountable for their crimes. But Taranto seems determined to maintain or even deepen the rape culture that pervades campuses and indeed much of U.S. society. What does that say about The Wall Street Journal?

If NOW really cared about a "rape culture," they would have demanded an answer when Juanita Broaddrick came forward on national television in 1999 and accused Clinton of rape in a Little Rock hotel room. They accepted Clinton's dodgy talk-to-my-lawyer defenses to reporters. They've had no credibility for decades now -- if the accused rapist will preserve abortion rights, then there is no real controversy.

Let’s now go back to Taranto’s actual point:

As the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education notes, at some campuses the accuser's having had one drink is sufficient to establish the defendant's guilt:

Stanford's definition of consent to sex imposes a concept that is foreign to most people's idea of adult consent and inconsistent with California state law. Stanford policy states that sexual assault occurs "when a person is incapable of giving consent. A person is legally incapable of giving consent . . . if intoxicated by drugs and/or alcohol." In other words, any sexual activity while intoxicated to any degree constitutes sexual assault. This is true even if the activity was explicitly agreed to by a person capable of making rational, reasoned decisions, and even if the partners are in an ongoing relationship or marriage.

In theory that means, as FIRE notes, that "if both parties are intoxicated during sex, they are both technically guilty of sexually assaulting each other." In practice it means that women, but not men, are absolved of responsibility by virtue of having consumed alcohol.

That is self-evidently unjust, yet it turns out to be a matter of high principle for many feminists. Last fall Slate's Emily Yoffe, the mother of a college-age daughter, was the target of a Two Minutes Hate for a post titled "College Women: Stop Getting Drunk," even though she offered the same advice to college men: "If I had a son, I would tell him that it's in his self-interest not to be the drunken frat boy who finds himself accused of raping a drunken classmate."

Yoffe was also accused of promoting "rape culture." But NOW never asked for Yoffe to be fired. She wasn't male enough, apparently.


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1 posted on 02/18/2014 10:50:18 AM PST by SAVEOURSOULS
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

The assumption that NOW would every be happy is silly. They are the angry bee hive.


2 posted on 02/18/2014 10:53:17 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

Then the drunker the man is the less culpable for rape he is (a self limiting condition I know).


3 posted on 02/18/2014 10:56:14 AM PST by DManA
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
Well at least they are consistent. I remember when they called for the resignation of President Bill Clinton for his contribution to "rape culture".... What's that?...They didn't call for Clinton's resignation? My bad.
4 posted on 02/18/2014 10:57:17 AM PST by fhayek
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

You could say this about anyone walking around with male genitalia. The NAGS need to lighten up. There aren’t any males who want to “rape” them. They aren’t our type.


5 posted on 02/18/2014 10:59:06 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
Hillary Clinton Promotes Rape Culture
6 posted on 02/18/2014 11:02:13 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
If you read the NOW press release, you find the real source of their anger:
Taranto's recent screed is not his first misogynist claim. On January 6, he said that the growing number of illegitimate children was a product of the "rise of female careerism" and women's choices given their access to abortions and birth control when he said, "the vast majority of children who are growing up without fathers are doing so in large part because of their mother's choices."

7 posted on 02/18/2014 11:05:09 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

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8 posted on 02/18/2014 11:07:29 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

The NOW nags are drunk with ego and hubris,...and generally very guilty.


9 posted on 02/18/2014 11:08:39 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: edcoil

I was around when the radical feminist movement was starting. Those original fem-Nazis were some of the bitterest, angriest, anti-American/anti-male persons to ever infest this country.


10 posted on 02/18/2014 11:20:16 AM PST by driftless2
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

To NOW:

Iron my shirt and make me a sammich.

Quite sincerely, ‘Pod.


11 posted on 02/18/2014 11:23:53 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: driftless2
NOW has been strangely silent about the numerous Clinton sex assaults.

Someone needs to ask why.

12 posted on 02/18/2014 11:24:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

If these gorgons know anything about how men and women have sex, it’s onlybecause they read about it in Cosmo.


13 posted on 02/18/2014 11:26:00 AM PST by IronJack
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

Every time one of these people bring up something like this, they should be asked if Monica was drunk, or if Juanita was drunk. They have no crediblility and should be told that. Neither does Hillary!!


14 posted on 02/18/2014 11:26:53 AM PST by Seabeejas (h)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
If NOW really cared about a "rape culture," they would have
demanded an answer when Juanita Broaddrick came forward...

Yep.

15 posted on 02/18/2014 11:29:57 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

This is just the all men are rapists stuff the NAGS started in the 70’s. They’re just a little more subtle about it now.


16 posted on 02/18/2014 11:30:12 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

The “traditional” male approach to getting laid, at least according to the media, is to pick up a drunk chick at some bar and take her home.

I wonder how many of the men who do this are aware that it is by definition rape, according to the dominant ideology in this country. Are they aware of how utterly vulnerable they make themselves by doing so to an accusation that will ruin their lives, even if they wind up not going to jail?

It’s kind of a Russian roulette approach to sex.


17 posted on 02/18/2014 11:34:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
Eons ago, in The Philadelphia Story, the Katherine Hepburn character gets drunk and her stuffed-shirt fiance jumps to the conclusion that she has had sex with the young muckraking reporter played by Jimmy Stewart...Katherine Hepburn had blacked out and doesn't know what happened, so assumes the worst of herself, but Jimmy Stewart assures her nothing happened because a gentleman like himself would not take advantage of a lady in that condition.
18 posted on 02/18/2014 11:37:13 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

Are they referring to “rape,” or “rape-rape?”

Whoopsie Goldturd said the former was okay.


19 posted on 02/18/2014 11:39:14 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: edcoil
They are the angry bee hive.

I love bees, who are hard working and useful, so I find your comparison highly insulting!

20 posted on 02/18/2014 11:40:25 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: driftless2

It is repeating today with gay rights and illegal aliens rights, etc


21 posted on 02/18/2014 11:44:27 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
In this case I'm not sure I accept the drunk driver analog..because sobers or dunk, neither driver wants to collided. .but sober or dunk men do want sex
22 posted on 02/18/2014 11:49:58 AM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: GOPJ

jauanita broadrick

Yes: ping me when NOW condems the Clintons for Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones etc.

Otherwise they continue to be marginalized, irrelevant.


23 posted on 02/18/2014 11:50:19 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: Sherman Logan

Got news for you, the feminists define as rape any sexual encounter which the woman later regrets.

Some years ago the NYT tried this with a front page analysis of all these situations which are “rape” but not yet legally rape.

It was the craziest thing you ever read, the stories all involved women living with men in a sexual relationship. Stuff happened like the women said one night they come home toasted from a night out with the guy. He wants to have sex and the woman didn’t really feel like it, but she doesn’t say anything and gives into the guy for various reasons.

They seriously wanted the rape laws rewritten to cover this.


24 posted on 02/18/2014 11:52:54 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

Not rewritten, just reinterpreted.


25 posted on 02/18/2014 11:54:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: GOPJ

And Sarah Palin-when that ugly harpy Sandra Bernhard called for her “black brothers” to gang-rape Palin if she showed her face in NYC.


26 posted on 02/18/2014 11:55:58 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

This reminds me of when they called on Bill Clinton to resign.


27 posted on 02/18/2014 11:56:19 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

Hell, their hero Slick Willy promoted it.


28 posted on 02/18/2014 12:02:54 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

Confucius say: If drinking couples were equally responsible, there would be fewer rapes.


29 posted on 02/18/2014 12:03:08 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Navy Patriot

“The NOW nags are drunk with ego and hubris,...and generally very guilty.”

They are generally very ugly, too.


30 posted on 02/18/2014 12:03:13 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
The thing is rape is “during the the act” not regret “after the fact”...

Feminist want to rape to be regret “after the fact” and feel its their right to rewrite, facts, time line and history..

But if rape is regret “after the fact”...then a lot of men are raped by women

31 posted on 02/18/2014 12:03:43 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: sauropod
Iron my shirt and make me a sammich.

Scrape mah huntin boots and fix me a sammich.
32 posted on 02/18/2014 12:05:50 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

taranto is absolutely correct.

this is not equal treatment. it is total double standards and hypocrisy.


33 posted on 02/18/2014 12:07:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

rape culture, cover-up culture, pay-her-to-go-away culture...


34 posted on 02/18/2014 12:08:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
he National Organization for Women ... has demanded The Wall Street Journal fire columnist James Taranto for arguing against the bizarre notion that the drunker a woman gets, the more guilty a man is for being sexually involved with her.

Is this the same "NOW" that doesn't utter a peep when Hitlery and/or her minions, claim that Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern, had control over the poor, defenseless POTUS, Bill Clinton? He who had no control over his libido, thought he was probably sober, as was she? That "NOW?"

Mark

35 posted on 02/18/2014 12:13:00 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
A week ago, I posted to the thread Apology called for after Greg Abbott's comment:


This seems to be the SOP Democrat tactic.

Scour a candidates past statements, find a word that has an alternate meaning, then call on the candidate to apologize.

George Allen? Macaca.

John Roberts? Amigo.

Mitt Romney? Binders of women.

This tactic is based on the expectation that all Republicans cave at the first sign of pressure.


This is another example of what I posted on Saturday on the thread Offended Generation, only they went straight to calls for resignation.


What is sweeping the nation is that conservatives are pushing back on the double-standard.

It really, very publicly began when liberals saw the opportunity to attack Trent Lott over his throw-away comment to Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday that he would have made a good president.

The Left seized on this to claim that Lott was supporting segregation, and demanded that Lott apologize. Lott did, many times, and was still excoriated for it by the Left.

Seeing a new weapon for their arsenal, the "apology demand" became a popular tool for liberals, and organizations like Media Matters popped up to monitor conservative airwaves for any statement that could be twisted to construe a minority slight, and then calls for apologies would ensue.

What is happening now is that liberals are gettig caught in their own trap. For years, they felt emboldened by the lack of opposition, and they became more and more strident in the things they said. They finally reached a tipping point, and are being called out on it.

The double-standard was getting to be much too obvious.The crack in the armor came when Martin Bashir was forced out at MSNBC over comments that were much worse than anything that Don Imus ever said. For a while, it seemed that Bashir would get a pass, but the contrast to Imus' firing was just too much.

The dam being breached, the flood of liberal apologies is now flowing.


In many cases, they skip the "apology demand" and go straight to the "resignation demand."

Liberals do this because they fully expect Republicans to eventually cave in to pressure. It's not about Taranto, it's about establishing the environment that surrounds conservatives and Republicans when they speak. By targeting Taranto, their goal is to silence the Congressman before he speaks at all.

And it will work because the Republicans have been weakened in spirit, beaten down by the steady Democrat-machine onslaught over everything (lie this), and become feckless and afraid to act.

-PJ

36 posted on 02/18/2014 12:21:41 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Male students surrender their constitutional rights when they walk on campus.


37 posted on 02/18/2014 12:31:50 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Sherman Logan

If you are picking up drunk people in bars as a method of getting laid, an accusation of rape might be the least of your worries. AIDS/VD and psycho ex’s make it pretty hard to have much sympathy for someone going this route.


38 posted on 02/18/2014 1:11:42 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I agree 100%. Doesn’t change the fact that it appears to be a very common practice. A very dangerous one, IMO.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 1:16:09 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: RedStateRocker

You don’t ‘catch’ AIDs. AIDs is a syndrome, not a virus. You might come in contact with a harmless, ubiquitous retrovirus named HIV, but as long as you’re not mainlining, sharing needles, using ‘poppers’, a male homosexual, already suppressing your immune system with massive doses of antibiotics, antivirals and and antifungals, or popping hard core narcotics, you’ll be fine.


40 posted on 02/18/2014 1:33:26 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
the bizarre notion that the drunker a woman gets, the more guilty a man is for being sexually involved with her.

When did traditional standards and chivalry become a bizarre notion?

41 posted on 02/18/2014 2:14:03 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS

And if he’s right should they give him double to column inches?


42 posted on 02/19/2014 9:07:28 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SAVEOURSOULS
The feminazis are nothing if not self serving and industrial strength one-sided.

In their eyes, a man is 100 % responsible for what he does while drunk but a woman is 0 % responsible for what she does while drunk.

So much for EQUALITY.

43 posted on 02/19/2014 9:18:48 PM PST by Lizavetta
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