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Video: LA Sheriffs kill 80-year-old man in bed in meth raid gone bad
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Posted on 02/18/2014 11:24:16 PM PST by chessplayer

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To: who knows what evil?

So thats the total basis of an armed SWAT raid?
Someone smelled some solvent? Remind me not to thin paint.


41 posted on 02/19/2014 4:55:13 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: chessplayer

The .22 was the cops throw down weapon.

It didn’t belong to the victim.

This was murder.


42 posted on 02/19/2014 5:26:55 AM PST by G Larry
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To: SeminoleCounty
One of these days...there will be cops getting their brains blown out in a raid like this...and no jury will convict the armed citizen using self defense.

This has already happened. I can't quote you chapter and verse but I do recollect seeing a story on this very subject on FR within this past week. A guy was acquitted of murder for killing one of these jackboots busting down the door of his home.

43 posted on 02/19/2014 5:31:06 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

I should add that the story I read may have referenced an instance in this happened, i.., it may not have occurred very recently.


44 posted on 02/19/2014 5:35:04 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Nailbiter

Add to that list the Police Commissioner, the head of the SWAT department, etc.


45 posted on 02/19/2014 6:00:23 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: chessplayer
In the video at liveleek.com they said Mallory was politically active. I wonder if that drew attention to him, they my have not liked his politics.
46 posted on 02/19/2014 6:58:34 AM PST by MCF
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To: MCF

‘Meth raid gone bad’??? There wasn’t any meth to begin with!


47 posted on 02/19/2014 7:10:26 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chessplayer

Arizona is now considering a law that information received from unlawful, unwarranted organizations, like the NSA, is to be inadmissible in state courts.

It seems to me that this law needs to be expanded so that anonymous tips given to the police *cannot* be used to justify a violent SWAT raid, without other evidence presented to a judge who then issues a written warrant.

The way things have become is like the Democrats’ indictment of Justice Clarence Thomas, that evidence does not matter as long as the accusation is serious enough.

Which is ass-backwards to how the law should behave.

Once again, an innocent man was murdered in cold blood by an overly-aggressive, machinegun armed, possibly steroid drugged police officer, with or also likely without a written warrant. Seriously, to repeatedly shoot an elderly man in bed, then lie about it, is beyond the pale.

In effect, this officer committed 1st degree, premeditated murder, which in the absence of any mitigating circumstances should qualify his actions for the death penalty.


48 posted on 02/19/2014 7:27:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
It seems to me that this law needs to be expanded so that anonymous tips given to the police *cannot* be used to justify a violent SWAT raid, without other evidence presented to a judge who then issues a written warrant.

Standing and applauding...while they're at it; they can outlaw drug/sniffer dogs. The damn things are wrong 55-60% of the time, according to a piece in the Chicago Tribune.

49 posted on 02/19/2014 7:36:24 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: OldPossum

Didn’t Indiana just pass a law allowing citizens to defend themselves against the police in such raids?


50 posted on 02/19/2014 7:37:43 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chessplayer
Whatever happened to a few cops pulling their squad car up to the curb during the day, walking up to the front door in their blues, knocking, and presenting a legal search warrant? How is it possible all the evidence especially of a meth lab could then be destroyed?

This sounds more like Nazi police tactics, developed to incarcerate Jews in the middle of the night rather than the investigation of a peaceful 80 year old man with no previous criminal record for a questionable (at best) warrant.

The cops, the supervisor, the judge - the entire scurrilous lot of them - should be going to jail for this wicked murder.

51 posted on 02/19/2014 8:52:26 AM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: who knows what evil?

Yes, I remember reading about that recently. It makes lots of sense to me. Something has to reel in these Gestapo police; maybe fear of getting their a##es blown away will temper their enthusiasm for scaring their inferiors.


52 posted on 02/19/2014 9:06:07 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Drug dogs. Haw-haw. While travelling between Az and Ca, a drug dog “hit” on my mother’s car.

It has never had so much as a lit cigarette in it, let alone any sort of illegal substance.

We were held up for nearly an hour while the dog repeatedly went through the car, its handler egging it on with the word “dirty” every 10 seconds.

Oh, the “officers” at the fruit stop also demanded our passports (we’re Canadian), even though we were 100 miles from Mexico. Our driver’s licences were not considered adequate, even though I have an “enhanced” DL that is accepted at the Cdn/USA border in lieu of a passport.

If these guys are going to enforce the law, should they not at least KNOW it, and FOLLOW it themselves?


53 posted on 02/19/2014 11:02:44 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W
While traveling between Az and Ca, a drug dog “hit” on my mother’s car.

What do they mean by 'hit'? Are they like a 'pointer'? Did you have a cat in your car? They are NOTORIOUS for 'hitting' (whatever that means) on any room/area containing a cat.

54 posted on 02/19/2014 11:22:40 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

The dog did whatever its “I smell drugs” action was. No cats, and none of my dogs had been in the car for over a year.

It was nothing more than an intimidation and fishing expedition.


55 posted on 02/19/2014 11:26:58 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Your post was quite revealing...people are being subject to terrifying ‘no-knock raids’ (many resulting in death) based on the testimony of a frickin’ DOG??? I was told by an attorney that the use of these dogs are very controversial. Really? Then end it.


56 posted on 02/19/2014 2:23:19 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Don W
The dog did whatever its “I smell drugs” action was.

The dog made whatever the secret, nuanced "hit" gesture was. Only the trained dog handler can properly read the dog, so he is the final judge and jury when the dog hits. It works out great, the dog either hits or doesn't according to the general mood of the highly trained dog officer. If the dog tells the officer to tow your car into the shop and cut it completely apart only to find nothing, that means you previously had illegal drugs in there and you are under arrest.

I trust those dogs, it's the handlers interpreting for them who I don't trust.

57 posted on 02/19/2014 2:34:57 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: null and void; bobby.223; Alaska Wolf

If you haven’t already been,Ping.


58 posted on 02/19/2014 2:37:32 PM PST by sport
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To: RetiredArmy

That is because it is/was. In a just world, they would face execution also, but as it is , promotions and bonuses for all involved.


59 posted on 02/19/2014 2:44:16 PM PST by sport
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