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IIHF will change rule after disallowed goal in USA-Russia game
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Posted on 02/19/2014 12:33:57 AM PST by chessplayer

According to IIHF president Rene Fasel, this rule is about to change.

Here's the translation of Championat.ru's interview with Fasel via Puck Daddy:

What can you say about the disallowed goal because of the dislodged net?

We will change that rule. To disallow a goal because of two centimeters? That's nonsense.

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Two centimeters is barely three quarters of an inch. Can't blame the Russians for being pissed off. Their team was screwed, even if the U.S. referee called it "by the book."
1 posted on 02/19/2014 12:33:57 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

>>Two centimeters is barely three quarters of an inch. Can’t blame the Russians for being pissed off. Their team was screwed, even if the U.S. referee called it “by the book.”<<

It’s a game after all. They have their chance to catch up.


2 posted on 02/19/2014 12:36:12 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: chessplayer

the rules is the rules, both teams were playing by the same ones I hope.


3 posted on 02/19/2014 12:41:02 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: chessplayer

The Russian referee who reviewed the call also agreed.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 1:13:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
The Russian referee who reviewed the call also agreed.

Yes, where do they draw the line? It is certainly not easy, but how about 2 and 1/4? How about 2 and 1/2? Where do they draw the line? If they make it a judgement call by the officials, then each one will have a different interpretation of it.

5 posted on 02/19/2014 1:27:32 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

Bunch of whiny Russians.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 1:29:51 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

In other news, Vladamir Putin announced the latest capitalist venture by his country. It is to be called the Russian Ice Hockey Referee Ice Company. Based in Northern Siberia, each referee armed with only an ice pick, will get to spend the next 20 years bagging ice to be used in the was against Global Warming.


7 posted on 02/19/2014 1:41:11 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: chessplayer

Should be the same as the NHL anyways...”disallowed if the net is completely off the moorings before the puck crosses the line.”


8 posted on 02/19/2014 1:46:00 AM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Mark17

There are pins in the ice to hold the net frame in place. Either it is pinned or it isn’t. There was no judgement call to be made. One side was knocked out of its pinned location. The rules are the rules.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 2:33:42 AM PST by DB
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To: chessplayer
They're changing the rule because the call was correct according to the current IIHF rules.

However, if this had been an NHL game, the goal would have been allowed.

Good decision to make the rule change, IMHO.

10 posted on 02/19/2014 3:32:21 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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11 posted on 02/19/2014 3:33:41 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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rules is rules. the ruskies are still carrying a grudge over 1980..


12 posted on 02/19/2014 3:39:14 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: chessplayer

Isn’t that the same game that the Russians were off-side and scored their first goal? Why didn’t they disallow that goal as well? Should never been allowed. Russians would not have been in a position to win even IF they scored that last “net off the post” goal.

Its a game, live with it, it’s over.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 4:06:35 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DB

I am not sure, but you may have missed my point. I played the game myself. I know about the pins holding the net. My point was, if they are going to change the rules, how are they going to do it? I don’t see how they can. As you say, the net is either on the pins, or it is not. I don’t see any middle ground where the rules can be changed. I think it is sour grapes on their part.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 4:27:39 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: chessplayer

The net is either on, or its off. You can’t score a goal with the net off. It doesn’t matter if its two centimeters or two feet.

Seems pretty simple to me.


15 posted on 02/19/2014 6:31:09 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: airborne

What I don’t get is why they didn’t set the clock back to the time that the net was dislodged. If it was impossible to score because the net was dislodged, they should at least get that playing time back.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 6:32:26 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: chessplayer; airborne

Related story on Drudge::

“NHL official becomes the most hated American in Russia: Protesters threaten to kill US hockey referee and turn him into SOAP as they blame him for Games loss to States”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561764/American-hockey-referee-hated-man-Sochi-calling-goal-U-S-favor-inciting-Cold-War-fury-victory-game-against-Russia.html

Russian fans are almost as rabid as NHL fans.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 6:33:08 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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To: Mark17

The NHL rule is “completely” off the moorings. It would have been a goal in the NHL.


18 posted on 02/19/2014 6:33:55 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: chessplayer

Consider it payback for the 1972 Gold Medal game in Basketball.


19 posted on 02/19/2014 6:35:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: GeronL

Which doesn’t preclude you from realizing it’s a badly written rule and fixing it for the future. Nobody is trying to rewrite the past, but there is a reason why the NHL dislodged net rule specifically calls out effecting the play, and IIHF has learned that reason and will fix it.


20 posted on 02/19/2014 6:59:54 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Mark17

The NHL rule would only disallow the goal if the dislodging of the net somehow helped the puck get in (like if it was the near post that was off and the puck had gone near side), otherwise the goal counts. It’s actually pretty easy to officiate.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 7:03:38 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: driftdiver

Bunch of whiny Russians.


Had it been the other way, we would be whining about it. Guaranteed.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 9:05:36 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Mark17

Sorry.

I believe the primary change is that both sides have to be dislodged, not just one side to disallow the goal. The one side rule apparently is just in the Olympics.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 11:35:30 AM PST by DB
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To: SoothingDave

IIHF rules have several differences from NHL rules. I’m not sure how they differ from the KHL. But in the end, Russia lost to Finland 3-1 so it’s a moot point.


24 posted on 02/19/2014 11:41:13 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: dfwgator
Consider it payback for the 1972 Gold Medal game in Basketball.

I don't think this comes close to the cheating that was allowed in 1972.

I still hold a grudge on that one.

25 posted on 02/19/2014 11:42:44 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: DB

No, the one side being unpinned rule is everywhere. You think they’re going to allow a goal where the net is pinned on one side, but the net has spun 90deg and is facing the side of the rink (which happens quite often)?


26 posted on 02/20/2014 4:54:32 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger

Just repeating what NBC said...

So what is the difference in the Olympic rule and the NHL rule regarding the goal becoming unpinned?


27 posted on 02/20/2014 11:24:41 AM PST by DB
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