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Holland America cruise ship worker raped, beat and strangled passenger
New York Daily News ^ | Feb 18, 2014 | Sasha Goldstein / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Posted on 02/19/2014 8:15:40 AM PST by 7thson

Ketut Pujayasa admitted to investigators that he ambushed and savagely beat a 31-year-old American woman after she slighted him, reported the Sun Sentinel.

The devilish Indonesian citizen told the FBI he attacked the 31-year-old American after he knocked on her door several times during a breakfast delivery and she dissed him, saying, “Wait a minute, son of a bitch!”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruiseships; hollandamerica; islam; religionofpeace
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I caught what I bolded in this story. Makes me wonder what religion he is.
1 posted on 02/19/2014 8:15:40 AM PST by 7thson
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To: 7thson
I caught what I bolded in this story. Makes me wonder what religion he is.

Amish. There was a question?

2 posted on 02/19/2014 8:19:18 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: 7thson
I caught what I bolded in this story. Makes me wonder what religion he is.

Amish?

3 posted on 02/19/2014 8:19:34 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: 7thson

I would guess from a Krakatoa convert family.

After Krakatoa, muslims rushed relief aid to Indonesia. If you didn’t submit to islam, they’d watch you starve.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 8:22:00 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: 7thson

A commenter on this story at another site indicated he was Hindu.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 8:22:00 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: 7thson

The article describes him as “devilish” (gotta love it), so maybe he’s a Satanist.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 8:23:21 AM PST by jocon307
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To: 7thson

That wouldn’t be this story would it — the nude cruise ship:

Cabin steward on nude cruise beat and raped American passenger, 31, then tried to throw her OVERBOARD after she called him a ‘son of a b****’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562667/Worker-nude-cruise-beat-raped-American-passenger-31-tried-throw-OVERBOARD-called-son-b.html

Victim had phone cord wrapped round her neck in vicious attack

Indonesian Ketut Pujayasa told FBI woman had insulted him at breakfast

28-year-old charged with attempted murder and aggravated sexual abuse


7 posted on 02/19/2014 8:23:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 7thson

I have long said that the trouble on these cruise ships- from violence and theft to the sicknesses- is due to Third World employees. People from brutal, backward and dirty countries likely cause most of what’s wrong with the cruise ships. It wasn’t always like this.


8 posted on 02/19/2014 8:24:02 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: 7thson

Think that’ll affect his tip at the end of the cruise?


9 posted on 02/19/2014 8:24:31 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 7thson

I bumped into some “Amish” Indonesians in Bali.
The Hindu population of Bali are wonderful.
The Amish Balinese are scary.
Probably much worse in Java.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 8:24:33 AM PST by Zathras
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To: 7thson

Indonesia is over 90% mooslimb


11 posted on 02/19/2014 8:25:40 AM PST by gr8eman (Neptune, Titan, stars don't frighten!)
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To: null and void

There are very few Amish in Indonesia.

However, there is one religion that has wide acceptance in Indonesia. They tend to take harsh measures with their neighbors, and have been know to have very tender sensibilities, which stirs up their hostility and “sense of honor” to a disproportionate degree.

I wonder if this lady converted after the “prayer session” she went through with the ship’s steward.


12 posted on 02/19/2014 8:25:50 AM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: 7thson

No matter what she said, I gotta believe that if the door was still closed, she’s got a case...even if the door was wide open, she’s got a case. His only response should have been, “Excuse me?” or “Ma’am, would you prefer speaking to the Captain?” not physically attacking the woman. What an idiot!


13 posted on 02/19/2014 8:27:28 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 7thson

people vanishing during cruises ,did he work on any of those ships ?


14 posted on 02/19/2014 8:27:34 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: 7thson

Minor point, but “devilish” is a bizzare adjective to describe this guy. It really doesn’t mean “evil” anymore.


15 posted on 02/19/2014 8:28:41 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: 7thson

He’s devilish.

At least that’s what the story says...


16 posted on 02/19/2014 8:28:51 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Uncle Chip

A NUDE cruise?

This thread is just fine without pictures, thank you.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 8:32:14 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: 7thson

devilish Indonesian
= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Is ‘devilish’ another word ‘they’ have stolen from us.

I kind of remember when you called someone ‘devilish’ it was meant to be he was somewhat of a scamp or ne’er do well, acting impishly.

When being called a devilish person, I conjure up a ‘carefree, fun loving gagster’, maybe acting on the ‘edge’ but generally not a ‘wicked or evil’ person???.

However, the (correct) interpretation here is he is quite evil - in regards to the rest of the story.


18 posted on 02/19/2014 8:33:01 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: 7thson

yellow journalism for brainless peasants:

“devilish Indonesian”

instead of

“accused attacker”


19 posted on 02/19/2014 8:33:39 AM PST by warchild9
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To: 7thson

While Indonesia is predominately Muslism, it’s an “islander” version of it. Most of the people are pretty relaxed. If you ask them, they will of course say they are Muslim, but if you watched them for a day, you’d see they aren’t really a “practicing” Muslim.

Also most of Indonesia still holds on to their older roots of Animism (worship of plants, animals, whatever). They may say they are Muslim, but still believe a monkey crossing the road is an omen of an impending event by mother earth (I made that up for sake of an example).

Regardless, there are extremist groups on many of the islands so it’s not incorrect that he was some sicko, just can’t resist correcting the the claims on this thread that Indonesian Muslims are the exactly the same as Muslims in the Middle East. It is different there.


20 posted on 02/19/2014 8:37:32 AM PST by Marko413
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To: gr8eman

The world’s largest Muslim community.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 8:38:29 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: WayneS

How about giving him a couple dozen cuts, then trailing him in the water? Might make for some interesting shipboard entertainment. He doesn’t deserve better.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 8:40:34 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: 7thson

I read somewhere that Indonesia has the largest Muzzie population in the world. You might check it is a thousand islands and a ton of people on them.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 8:40:37 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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24 posted on 02/19/2014 8:43:32 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Uncle Chip

The perp should be keelhauled.


25 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:42 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 7thson
The devilish Indonesian citizen...

Waaaaait....is this another one of Obama's kids?

26 posted on 02/19/2014 8:50:17 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Marko413
While Indonesia is predominately Muslism, it’s an “islander” version of it. Most of the people are pretty relaxed. If you ask them, they will of course say they are Muslim, but if you watched them for a day, you’d see they aren’t really a “practicing” Muslim.

I worked for a large Japanese company which had a strong presence in Indonesia at multiple sites. They all told me that prostitution there was more prevalent than in Thailand and cost a lot less as well.

A night with a Thai girl which included her making you breakfast cost about $20. In Indonesia, it was about $7.

Some of them brought back Indonesian brands of cigarettes to pass out in the office as souvenirs. When burning, they smelled a lot like weed. I can't say that they were as Japanese laws are quite strict on the importation of narcotics. But they sure smelled like weed.

However, there are Islamic extremists operating in parts of Indonesia, especially Aech Province, where beheadings and rape are all too common. And who can forget the Bali bombing atrocity?

Bangladesh has an even more relaxed version of Islam. This is why you seldom read about Bengali terrorists. Most of them have a closer cultural affinity to India which helped them win their 1970s War of Independence from their far harsher Islamic overlords in Pakistan.

27 posted on 02/19/2014 8:50:42 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Yo-Yo

He’s definitely NOT getting the full five stars on his rating card.


28 posted on 02/19/2014 8:51:59 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 7thson

So he says.


29 posted on 02/19/2014 8:53:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: xrmusn
When being called a devilish person, I conjure up a ‘carefree, fun loving gagster’, maybe acting on the ‘edge’ but generally not a ‘wicked or evil’ person???

Aha! So you admit to conjuring! ;)

30 posted on 02/19/2014 8:53:56 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Indonesian Ketut Pujayasa told FBI woman had insulted him at breakfast

He really over reacted, there's a right and wrong way to do these things.


31 posted on 02/19/2014 8:54:53 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pan_Yan
A NUDE cruise?

This thread is just fine without pictures, thank you.

LOL! /thread as I do BUMP tagline.

32 posted on 02/19/2014 9:05:06 AM PST by PGalt
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To: alloysteel; null and void

Sheer numbers wise, Indonesia has the most muzzles of any nation.


33 posted on 02/19/2014 9:05:25 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
The world’s largest Muslim community.


I think India has more Muslims, but Indonesia is the largest majority Muslim country.

34 posted on 02/19/2014 9:07:31 AM PST by society-by-contract (Repeal The Federal Reserve Act)
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To: Vigilanteman

Their cigarettes commonly do have an extra ingredient, clove.

And I believe it on the costs you mentioned, Indonesia is very cheap. I got a pink pearl necklace and earrings with silver settings for my wife for $15. I took it to a jeweler friend in the state out of curiosity before I wrapped them up and asked him about the value and he said he could easily sell the set for over $200.

All that aside, I do want to clarify that even if the Indonesians were obedient Muslims, it wouldn’t mean they wouldn’t do the things from this article or what you mentioned. It’s just the way Indonesia is. If you are a druggie, mentally disturbed perv, or want something else that’s illegal in the states, you can probably get it cheap in Indonesia. I’m in the opinion this story on the cruise ship is more due to a stereotype in Indonesian culture than their religious beliefs.


35 posted on 02/19/2014 9:07:33 AM PST by Marko413
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To: 7thson

This is all a misunderstanding!

She didn’t say, “Wait a minute, son of a bitch.”

I will bet that after he beat on the door several times, she said, “Wait a minute. Son of a bitch.” As in, damn is all that beating necessary!

And she wasn’t raped, she was taught a rough lesson about using certain American tendencies in the presence of international personnel!

Do I really need a /sarc tag?!?!?!?


36 posted on 02/19/2014 9:11:26 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

My mother took me on a cruise. In all honesty I felt guilty about the contrast between my time there and the employees’ time. Me, dining on very fine food three times a day, our cabin tidied twice a day, strolling the decks and watching the passing seascape, the the stewards and waiters so polite and smiling. Them, working 12 to 14 hours a day, seven days a week, sleeping in windowless cabins, near the rumbling engines. Away from home and family six months at a time. Most of them were Filipinos, and maybe they were making good money for Filipinos, and it’s probably better than farming or factory work. They’re Christians, and the man who led the Sunday worship service was a lay pastor.

The officers, the medical staff, the entertainers and activities directors were Westerners.

But the truth is, my mother could never have afforded this luxurious treat if all the crew were Westerners, being paid Western wages.


37 posted on 02/19/2014 9:13:48 AM PST by heartwood
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To: 7thson

It seems like many cruise lines are basically your local fast-food restaurant on the high seas.


38 posted on 02/19/2014 9:14:00 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ClearBlueSky

My wife and I have cruised numerous times and have always got the best of service as well as respect from the crew. We have been treated badly at some hotels in the states however and several waiters in the states. This guy in an abomination from our experiences....just saying.....nut cases come in all nationalities !!!


39 posted on 02/19/2014 9:23:55 AM PST by ontap
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To: heartwood

Bear in mind they are making ten times what they make in their homeland and that’s a conservative estimate. The crew we spoke too always expounded on how lucky they felt to have landed their job and how much they appreciated the people cruising!!!


40 posted on 02/19/2014 9:31:32 AM PST by ontap
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To: heartwood; ClearBlueSky
I have been on several cruises. Four Norwegian and one Princess. The last two Norwegian cruises, my wife and I upgraded to a suite. We are now spoiled. Butler, steward, room service, priority dinner and show seatings, plus other stuff. We like Norwegian.

With that said, yes the majority of the crew are from third world nations. However, the majority of those we deal with are not dumb or stupid. Most have a higher education but are unable to find work in their own country. Most, when hired on, start at the bottom and work their way up the chain. But just like everywhere else, you treat them with dignity and respect, and they treat you the same. Also, if you tip them, they go out of thier way to help you or give you great dinner seats, etc.

Most of the officers we have met have been non-Americans. The same with the ship entertainers. You are probably correct about the cost of the cruise if the crew were all Americans but the reason you do not see many American crew members is that - in my opinion - most young Americans today do not want to work that hard. And it is hard work - long hours, day in day out.

On a Hawaiian Norwegian cruise, I did run across one American female officer in charge of the stewards. She dressed down one cleaning crew - Philippine females - in front of my wife and I. Treated them worse than dogs and in my opinion did so only because of race. We reported her. Do not know what happened to her but we did report her.

I do not feel guilty about being on a cruise. It is part of life. Like going to a fancy restaurant. You eat the great food while others serve you. That's their job. And considering the many WestPacs and Med cruise I have been on, I like these cruises better.

41 posted on 02/19/2014 9:32:55 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I have long said people on the internet often just post anything much of it made up or generalizations.

We went around the cape from Buenos Aires to Valparaiso in November. Most of the service workers were Indonesian and Filipino.

Couldn’t have had better service and nicer people.

Oh, Holland America Zaandam.


42 posted on 02/19/2014 9:39:11 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: 7thson

ROP ... cure the problem ... don’t hire mooselimbs


43 posted on 02/19/2014 9:40:49 AM PST by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: heartwood

You may be interested to know, we had many Filipinos working our cruise. The company let 15 of them go home after the typhoon to try to find family they were unable to contact. The passengers donated funds for relief, as did Holland America. We had a 5K walk around the deck and raised more money.

To show appreciation, some of the Filipino crew put on a talent show.


44 posted on 02/19/2014 9:45:01 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: 7thson

Why do you still wonder?


45 posted on 02/19/2014 9:46:15 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: ClearBlueSky

“I have long said that the trouble on these cruise ships- from violence and theft to the sicknesses- is due to Third World employees. People from brutal, backward and dirty countries likely cause most of what’s wrong with the cruise ships. It wasn’t always like this.”

The last time I was on a typical cruise (don’t ask), the “third worlders” in prominent service positions had far more class than average Americans. This ain’t the country it was even 20 years ago.

Only third world people would do this job- live inside a tiny 4-person room on a floating hotel for months at a time while making less than $1000 a month.


46 posted on 02/19/2014 9:51:59 AM PST by varyouga
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To: 7thson

All cruise ships fly foreign flags. If you have a problem in international waters or in the port of call you are subject to the law of that country. Even if it is a US company like Carnival they still fly Panamanian flag so they are not subject to the Jones Act and have to pay US wages. Therefore, you are not subject to US law.

Rapes happen all the time on cruise ships. They are rarely reported because you have almost no recourse. Young women should be very careful and never open their cabin door to anyone they did not call even if they are wearing a ships uniform. This is one of the BIG secrets of the cruise industry they do not want publicized.


47 posted on 02/19/2014 10:13:32 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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Rapes happen all the time on cruise ships.

Do you have a source for that?
48 posted on 02/19/2014 10:33:24 AM PST by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: ClearBlueSky

In the short run Cruise Ships make more money hiring third world staff - in the long that type of cost cutting destroys the illusion of the cruise being an affordable ‘upper class’ experience.

A tipping point is coming...


49 posted on 02/19/2014 10:58:54 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: 7thson

devilish?

editorializing, although seems accurate


50 posted on 02/19/2014 11:05:49 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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