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Nat'l Guard Soldier Gets Death Threats for 'Funeral Fun' Pic
Newser ^ | 2/19/14 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 02/19/2014 10:44:44 AM PST by Impala64ssa

Wisconsin soldier pulled from military funeral duties

A National Guard soldier has been suspended indefinitely from military funeral duties after a picture of her and other soldiers clowning around a training casket surfaced on social media. "We put the FUN in funeral," read the caption on the photo posted on the Instagram account of Spc. Terry Harrison, Fox 47 reports. The Wisconsin National Guard member has been shifted to other duties pending an investigation and the Guard says it has taken steps to ensure her safety after death threats, reports the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Another photo to spark outrage shows Harrison in a car, with a comment complaining about the cold and saying, "Somebody's getting a jacked up flag." The photos and comments drew condemnation from the soldier's superiors all the way up to the Pentagon, where the chief of the National Guard Bureau called them "deplorable," Stars and Stripes reports. "These duties are sacred. America’s fallen deserve nothing less than our deepest respect," he said.


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This is reprehensible behavior. Did 0 set a precedent for this level of crassness by flirting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and taking selfies at Mendela's funeral?
1 posted on 02/19/2014 10:44:44 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

wasn’t Merkel.


2 posted on 02/19/2014 10:48:26 AM PST by TweetEBird007
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To: Impala64ssa

Bitch should be dishonorably struck from the Guard for seditious conduct.


3 posted on 02/19/2014 10:49:08 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Impala64ssa

When I was in Vietnam the graves registration people near our base camp were very weird people. You really didn’t want to be around them.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 10:50:34 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Impala64ssa

Drop kick that bitch across the DMZ into N Korea!

She can yuck it up with Kim Yung Dung.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: TweetEBird007

OOPS, it was the DANISH PM. I stand corrected.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:02 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Thank goodness these evil soldiers didn’t do this at Abu Grab, then it might’ve actually made the NYT front page for 65 consecutive days....


7 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:48 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Did 0 set a precedent for this level of crassness by flirting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and taking selfies at Mendela's funeral?

Maybe Hillary did by lying at a photo op in front of the coffins of the Benghazi fallen.

8 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:50 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Talisker

Frankly, I think that all of the individuals that participated in that pic deserve some serious brig time and then a BCD or a UD.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 10:59:03 AM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Impala64ssa

It was a training casket. What’s the big deal?


10 posted on 02/19/2014 10:59:56 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: Impala64ssa

I find it admirable that people are enraged to the point of sending this bitch death threats; she deserves it.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 11:01:11 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Impala64ssa
There's 14 people clowning around in the photo, why is everybody so furious with this particular woman over the others?

Personally, the goofing around was completely tame and the casket was a training prop, not the real thing.

Death threats in this case are a bit stupid. I think reassigning her and the others to a really crappy detail should be enough.

12 posted on 02/19/2014 11:06:45 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’ve worked with JPAC a number of times and have recovered KIA remains in Vietnam. I never saw anything like this, ever. It was pure professionalism and respect for the dead at all times.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 11:06:46 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Clearly she’s an imbecile and should be strongly encouraged to seek employment elsewhere - say, flipping burgers at the nearest McDonald’s, assuming they’d take her.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 11:08:09 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Talisker
Bitch should be dishonorably struck from the Guard for seditious conduct.

What? Do you even know what sedition is?

se·di·tion
noun: sedition; plural noun: seditions
  1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
  2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
  3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.
Sure there's disorder resulting, but it's not rebellious at all.
15 posted on 02/19/2014 11:09:18 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: autumnraine

I’m wondering the same thing. I sincerely don’t understand the absolute outrage about this. Sure, it’s childish, but damnable? I don’t understand.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 11:12:45 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Jack Hammer
I'm still trying to figure out what her comment about a jacked up flag meant? She should be reassigned for being stupid enough to post such a picture online.
17 posted on 02/19/2014 11:12:50 AM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: CorporateStepsister
I find it admirable that people are enraged to the point of sending this bitch death threats; she deserves it. Welcome to FR newb. Most folks around here don't find death threats in response to stupid behavior to be commendable. And while her disrespectful behavior is certainly worthy of discipline, it doesn't even rise close to anything worthy of death threats.
18 posted on 02/19/2014 11:26:09 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: CorporateStepsister
I find it admirable that people are enraged to the point of sending this bitch death threats; she deserves it.

Welcome to FR newb. Most folks around here don't find death threats in response to stupid behavior to be commendable. And while her disrespectful behavior is certainly worthy of discipline, it doesn't even rise close to anything worthy of death threats.

19 posted on 02/19/2014 11:26:52 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: smoothsailing

I can understand the graves registration people in a combat zone using a dark sense of humor to survive dealing with so much death on a daily basis

these were national guard people In Wisconsin


20 posted on 02/19/2014 11:28:30 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Impala64ssa

A coffin with a United States flag draped on it, is representative of every single brave soldier that gave his fullest for our freedom - it matters not whether it be for training purposes or not. This is a travesty - far worse that the Abu Gharib photos.

A less than honorable discharge is what they all deserve.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 11:29:12 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: AlaskaErik; All

Why am I surprised Freepers aren’t reading the article. There was no one dead there people!!


22 posted on 02/19/2014 11:31:44 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Just some soldiers being stupid. Happens all the time. People really are on a hair trigger these days.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 11:55:00 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: autumnraine
Why am I surprised Freepers aren’t reading the article. There was no one dead there people!!

I read the article. Even though this was a training casket, it shows a certain lack of respect and decorum for those who are part of a funeral detail. If you don't see this as a big deal, then you just don't get it.

24 posted on 02/19/2014 11:56:21 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Pathetic at best and getting by with just a death threat he may be lucky. Every damn one of them in the photo should be court martial-ed and discharged.


25 posted on 02/19/2014 11:57:22 AM PST by maddog55
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To: OneWingedShark
What? Do you even know what sedition is? Sure there's disorder resulting, but it's not rebellious at all.

Do you know what a psyop is? The point of the behavior was the photograph. The point of the photograph was its publication. The point of the publication was to create disdain for military sacrifice. The point of creating that disdain in the public mind is foment REBELLION.

Too farfetched? Then you're going to have to come up with a "reasonable" explanation for National Guard soldiers mocking the scaredness of their own work - a sacredness they are acknowledged for throughout the military, and which is the most pervasive part of their training and operations. This whole thing screams psyop, as it is utterly inconceivable that these soldiers would even remotely think of this as a "prank."

26 posted on 02/19/2014 12:03:33 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dead; All

It’s one thing to engage in gallows’ humor. People who deal with dead and dying people, no matter how well-adjusted they are need some kind of outlet from time to time to keep from going crazy. But these Guardsmen should have been much more discreet about it instead of taking pics of each other acting like classless idiots.


27 posted on 02/19/2014 12:04:01 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Talisker
Simplest explanation: they were (a) unwinding after getting their D & C practice in, or (b) waiting for the detail's commander to arrive.
There's a lot of hurry up and wait* in the regular army, in the National Guard multiply the bureaucratic effect by 1.5 to 2.5 and you're probably in the right ballpark.

* Kind of like pre-pre-pre-formation formation; where the commander puts out that formation is at 0700, the CSM says 0630, the 1SG says 0600, the platoon leader says 5030, the squad leader says 0500… because the formation is at 0700. … What are you going to do when you're required to be there for 2 hours, with absolutely nothing else as a purpose?

28 posted on 02/19/2014 12:12:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: peeps36
I'm still trying to figure out what her comment about a jacked up flag meant?

I think because she had to suffer standing in the cold, she would express her discomfort and displeasure by doing a poor job folding the flag. Posting pix with such captions on the Internet is dumb.

29 posted on 02/19/2014 12:19:27 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: dead

This behavior is stupid but not as stupid as the morons making death threats or how about the Secretary of State that lied to parents at a real funeral!!!


30 posted on 02/19/2014 12:19:59 PM PST by ontap
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To: OneWingedShark

Sorry, you can’t normalize what they did. It’s like saying a crew chief got bored waiting for the pilot to show up, so he wrote anti-american graffiti all over the plane and posted a photo of himself doing it online. NOT going to happen!


31 posted on 02/19/2014 12:20:16 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Sorry, you can’t normalize what they did. It’s like saying a crew chief got bored waiting for the pilot to show up, so he wrote anti-american graffiti all over the plane and posted a photo of himself doing it online. NOT going to happen!

Except it's not like that -- they didn't destroy or deface anything, nor did they do anything criminal.
It's a stupid picture of people acting stupid, but nothing in any way dangerous or destructive.
It's not even an occupied coffin.

32 posted on 02/19/2014 12:37:30 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I was willing (as a vet) to allow for a certain level of gallows humor and youthful stupidity with the inappropriate publication with a slap on the wrist, until I saw: “Another photo to spark outrage shows Harrison in a car, with a comment complaining about the cold and saying, “Somebody’s getting a jacked up flag.””

After that I decided that she doesn’t have the demeanor or required respect to be in the role. It’s an honor to stand in the rain or any weather to acknowledge our dead. If she can’t understand that then she shouldn’t be performing the service.


33 posted on 02/19/2014 12:39:44 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: reed13k

“After that I decided that she doesn’t have the demeanor or required respect to be in the role.”

I am not a member of the military, but I agree with you.
I am in the Patriot Guard, not ONE us of have EVER complained about standing in the cold for our Fallen.


34 posted on 02/19/2014 1:13:43 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Impala64ssa
Guardsmen should have been much more discreet about it instead of taking pics of each other acting like classless idiots.

This.

I'm in the navy and work with a lot of late teens and 20-somethings, much younger than me, and I'll never understand this need that young people have today to document EVERYTHING they do on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, whatever, even to the point where it jeopardizes their careers. It's just mind-boggling. It's like it never happened until it's been posted on the internet.

35 posted on 02/19/2014 1:32:47 PM PST by Drew68
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To: RWGinger

You are certainly right, and there can be no such excuse for the Wisconsin NGs.


36 posted on 02/19/2014 1:36:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: autumnraine

If you have to ask, it ain’t worth explaining to you.


37 posted on 02/19/2014 1:39:06 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Drew68

Earlier today Rush remarked that we don’t need the NSA snooping around. So many people have this obsession with plastering their life story, with intimate if not lurid details all over Facebook, Twitter, etc.


38 posted on 02/19/2014 1:42:24 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Lots of disrespect reported in last few days.....

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/02/15/air-force-will-take-action-over-pow-mia-emblem-photo.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl

Sad.... A little wall to wall counseling is in order in both of these incidents IMO.


39 posted on 02/19/2014 1:48:11 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

“This is a travesty - far worse that the Abu Gharib photos.”

Ridiculous


40 posted on 02/19/2014 1:59:15 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: autumnraine; colorado tanker

Ok. It was a training casket however, what message does it send when she posts that disrespectful attitude on her Facebook page? My husband was in the guard years after his service in Vietnam. Rest assured he took funeral duty very seriously. Perhaps these young people haven’t seen enough of what puts a soldier into those caskets to respect it or seen an old soldier die that they love.

You all that say it is no big deal probably haven’t buried your own. It’s shameful. As Americans we are prince to dark humor but with respect I think, not posting om Facebook. /rant


41 posted on 02/19/2014 3:27:12 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it; autumnraine
Hi Snippy. It's been a while.

I personally did funeral duty and my guys never acted like this, at least not that I know of. And I have been to funerals of family where military honors were rendered. The ceremony is touching and very much appreciated by the families.

What I'm reacting to is the "get a rope" tenor of the posts. Soldiers doing something stupid is nothing new and something like this shouldn't result in her being kicked out. I saw plenty of dumb things in my day and we handled that stuff in the unit. It could be as simple as the commander telling them to knock it off up to formal Article 15 nonjudicial punishment, which can result in extra duty or restriction, or in serious cases forfeiture of pay and/or reduction in grade.

The main difference I can see between my era and the present is that soldiers have cell phone cameras and sometimes post their stupid stuff on Facebook. Once it's out on the Internet, you can't get it back.

42 posted on 02/19/2014 4:02:55 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: VRWCmember

Messing around while supposedly training for a military position being involved in the burial of our heroes? It’s WAY beyond the pale and people are rightly enraged at this sick antic. It’s sick and not normal at all.


43 posted on 02/19/2014 5:04:57 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Impala64ssa

He was right and so are you.


44 posted on 02/19/2014 5:05:49 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: dead

Thing is, that women fought to be able to be part of our military and now this wench proves why (to critics of women in the military) women don’t belong.


45 posted on 02/19/2014 5:06:42 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: OneWingedShark
It's a stupid picture of people acting stupid, but nothing in any way dangerous or destructive.

I find you assessment of the power of morale disturbing.

Not to mention your inability to see extremes that indicate intent.

46 posted on 02/19/2014 5:07:31 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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>> It's a stupid picture of people acting stupid, but nothing in any way dangerous or destructive.
>
> I find you assessment of the power of morale disturbing.

Counter-argument: they were keeping their own morale up.

Not to mention your inability to see extremes that indicate intent.

What extremes?
It's an empty coffin, they weren't actually on the detail (if they were, they'd be in dress uniforms).

There's far better things to be upset about than the posting of a meaningless picture of troops goofing around.

47 posted on 02/19/2014 6:23:17 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Talisker
This picture, from another thread, is far less appropriate:

… and even it, by itself, shouldn't be grounds for DD or BCD as neither is criminal [in any sense] and neither is harming any actual person —— are they tasteless? Yes. Do they show a lack of composure? Yes. Are they [in isolation] worthy of sudden and intimidate termination [discharge]? No. Do either rise to the level of warranting death threats? No.

Hell, there are many, many issues that should be addressed before harping on lower-enlisted screwing around — like the mettle of the high-ranking officers and their [lack of] commitment to the Constitution.

48 posted on 02/19/2014 6:38:50 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: autumnraine

The “big deal” is the callousness in their thinking process. Empty or not, just the thought of setting up a shot like that should disgust anyone in uniform.


49 posted on 02/19/2014 6:42:43 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Impala64ssa; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


50 posted on 02/19/2014 6:45:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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