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Nebraska judge strikes down legislature’s move allowing Keystone XL route
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| February 19, 2014
| By Lenny Bernstein
Posted on 02/19/2014 2:16:51 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: SoothingDave
We do know one thing for certain ... Nobody wants to stand up for Jobs.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:27:27 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: PA Engineer
And because of course there is never any pipeline leaks right?
No impact to property being dug up?
No impact to loss of use?
Property seized by the government doesn’t bother you? Bothers me.
And could someone please tell me why when someone has an opposing view, personal attacks come out? Such a rational way to debate an issue. / yes that’s snark just in case you couldn’t tell.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:35:36 PM PST
by
conservaKate
(R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
To: no-to-illegals
Huh?
Are jobs more important than due process?
If this was unconstitutional (and that is a big if) we should not be in favor of it.
To: SoothingDave
okay Dave, show me where this pipeline is un-Constitutional, please, and while you are at it could you show me where jobs are un-Constitutional also. Thanks, Dave.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:38:19 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: conservaKate
From your post, I stand firm on your immaturity and irrational behavior. Do you have a clue about the pipeline safety industry? Do you know how uncommon leaks are, especially on major pipelines?
If I put you out in a farmers field and ask you to find the pipeline, I can pretty well conclude you would be lost. Farmers and ranchers are well compensated for pipeline impacts. There are always a few who think they hit the jackpot. They are the ones that end up in court and they usually lose. Rightfully so. You sound a lot like the crazy ones.
Grow up.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:43:27 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
To: no-to-illegals
The oil being transported across government seized land is not destined for US consumption...it will go on the world market...but is primarily aimed for Chinese consumption. I’m not understanding how you think it makes US energy independent.
The amount of jobs created are actually very few and they would be temporary jobs. But I would still be fine with all of that if the pipeline could be built without seizing private property.
I still have never read or heard why Canada is not building the pipeline across their own country. Not being snarky..I’ve just don’t know why they don’t build it in Canada.
I will never understand the logic of taking people’s land away from them when they don’t want to sell it...w/o a compelling...very compelling reason.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:44:24 PM PST
by
conservaKate
(R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
To: conservaKate
Strange ... frogs have rights to you know, and so do mice.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:44:29 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: conservaKate
The oil being transported across government seized land is not destined for US consumption...it will go on the world market First build the pipeline and then see. Oh btw ... what do you have against markets?
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:46:03 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: conservaKate
I wonder when men and women will re-secure their rights over those of frogs and mice ... Any thoughts? I know God feeds the sparrows, frogs and mice but God meant for Men and Women to work to feed theirs. Strange world in which the rights of men and women not wanting to work trump the rights of those Men and Women wanting to work.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:49:21 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: conservaKate
The amount of jobs created are actually very few and they would be temporary jobs. Another two questions for you ... Have you seen what is going on in South Dakota? Are you against economic booms?
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:55:56 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: no-to-illegals
Did you even bothef reading the article?
This judge ruled that, according to the state constitution, this commission has authority over pipelines and not the legislature.
I don’t know if this decision is well founded or not. My point is that we need to examine the case and make intelligent arguments about the germane issues.
Not react in a knee jerk fashion.
“Jobs” has nothing to do with it.
Unless your position is that we should not care about trifling things like constitutions.
FR used to be a place where you could find intelligent discussion.
To: PA Engineer
You obviously have never had your property seized by local, state or Federal government. You obviously don’t understand the long term impact to property that is harmed by chemicals. You obviously don’t feel that potential spills from a private, foreign company is anything to worry about. BUT it’s not YOUR land being seized. It’s not YOUR water supply being put at risk.
I will bid you good night as I’m immature and irrational and don’t feel the need to carry on this conversation. Have a good night and you just keep enjoying the view from your lofty position. You know the one...the one where you are always right...and no one else has a clue.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:56:48 PM PST
by
conservaKate
(R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
To: conservaKate
I forgot to post this. For you education:
The map does not cover local distribution. There are many more miles of that.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:57:26 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
To: conservaKate
You obviously have never had your property seized by local, state or Federal government. You obviously dont understand the long term impact to property that is harmed by chemicals. You obviously dont feel that potential spills from a private, foreign company is anything to worry about. BUT its not YOUR land being seized. Its not YOUR water supply being put at risk.
and neither do you. You are making this up. Grow up.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:59:18 PM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
To: SoothingDave
dont know if this decision is well founded or not Well Dave, in your own words, there is your answer.
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posted on
02/19/2014 6:59:41 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: SoothingDave
Jobs has nothing to do with it. LOL ... Dave. Jobs has everything to do with a viable economy.
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posted on
02/19/2014 7:00:35 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: no-to-illegals
I know that, but many don’t like the “deal”.
And if I am forced to give a my land to a company for their profit, what type of deal is that?
Again, there are lots of good people on both sides (and some aholes). The jobs will be temporary, and the company doesn’t have the best safety record (which is not uncommon in the oil fields). Couple that with it being a foreign company on both sides, and some ranchers and farmers are worried they will be stuck with a huge spill in a decade or so that they will have to pay for.
If the land owner sells them the land, so be it. But I do not like the idea that has crept in here that you can seize someones land, give it to someone else, because the State (or the donors to the State) say they have a better use for that land.
Where does that end? If they can force you off your land to give to a foreign company, with many foreign workers, how is that going to end?
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posted on
02/19/2014 7:00:50 PM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: conservaKate
The refineries are in Texas, and Canada doesn’t want them built in Canada.
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posted on
02/19/2014 7:02:51 PM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: conservaKate
never had your property seized by local, state or Federal government Dear Kate:
Tax time draws neigh ... They seize property from me every year.
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posted on
02/19/2014 7:03:16 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
To: redgolum
The jobs will be temporary Little thought for you ... Go see South Dakota and then tell me the Jobs are temporary.
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posted on
02/19/2014 7:04:41 PM PST
by
no-to-illegals
(Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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