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“Are you SERIOUS?”: School Bans Teachers from Giving Students 0s on Assignments
http://youngcons.com ^ | february 12, 2014

Posted on 02/19/2014 2:36:05 PM PST by lowbridge

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida

1 posted on 02/19/2014 2:36:06 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

If I were a teacher I would give them a -1

or the square root of -1, they can have an imaginary grade if the people in charge are so disconnected from reality...


2 posted on 02/19/2014 2:38:15 PM PST by GraceG
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To: lowbridge
Rainbows & Unicorns For Everyone!


3 posted on 02/19/2014 2:38:28 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: lowbridge

I think the going rate is 10 points for putting your name on the paper and turning it in.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 2:41:07 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: lowbridge

Zer0s really hurt the average.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 2:41:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Like Bammy definitely brings the average down...


6 posted on 02/19/2014 2:41:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: lowbridge
If you get a perfect score on one assignment and a 0 on the second one your average is 50% or an F. Interestingly, if you average grades on a 4.0 scale (A=4, B=3...) instead of percentages, taking the average of the A paper and the F paper will give you a C.
7 posted on 02/19/2014 2:42:49 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: lowbridge

Think I’d be giving out negative grades.


8 posted on 02/19/2014 2:43:06 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Uncle Chip
You get 200 on each section of the SAT just for having a pulse, so that's 600 of 2400 or a good, solid F--.
9 posted on 02/19/2014 2:44:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: Paladin2

>> Zer0s really hurt the average.

And bad for children.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 2:45:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: KarlInOhio

I really made out in HS by moving 3x, between numerical to grade to numerical GPA calculations.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 2:47:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: lowbridge

Something similar is going to happen in my district and all across the state of Texas. Starting next year, teachers will be forbidden from taking off points for late work. I asked my dept. chair if that meant I could pay my school property taxes late without a penalty...


12 posted on 02/19/2014 2:53:52 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: lowbridge

On behalf of children who get 0s on assignments, although the child may deserve the grade, the child may also be struggling with difficult personal relationships.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 2:58:14 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

I agree.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 2:59:29 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
Yes, I can believe it. I'm a teacher. I've been asked to leave a grade blank in the online system rather than record a 0 because the blank won't be averaged in. I pointed out that that would defeat the purpose of grading. (She was unaware that until you entered a single grade, the average is 100.)

Frankly, for most things, I won't put in anything below a 40 if they put any effort into at all, for the simple reason that those who are lost on this one topic won't get killed by it (a zero will really kill an average for an otherwise B or C student), and those who generally fail everything will still fail.

But I'll give 0 if it isn't handed in or if they put their name on the paper and figure that that's enough for some credit (and some actually do think that). Because I'm not the type to simple enter a "0" for any old PITA who just deserves to fail -- especially because those guys can fail all on their own.

I hate the game. I hate the system. But it's the one I have to work with, and it will all fall back on me in the end.

15 posted on 02/19/2014 3:01:11 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Amendment10

OH GAWD!

Kids throughout history have gone through “difficult relationships” at one time or another.

Life is tough...They better get used to it.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 3:03:35 PM PST by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: bimboeruption

Mr Blutarsky....... 0 point 0.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 3:14:03 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: lowbridge

At our school, we have a no zero policy, but it doesn’t work like that.

Any kids with zeros must stay in class and work during recess time until they get their work caught up. They are marked as zeros until the kids get assigments in, and we are allowed to deduct points for late work.

If, at the end of the marking period, there are still missing assignments and no good reason exists for the zeros (medical or family hardship), then they are allowed to stand as zeros, and if the kid fails, so be it.

Technically this is a “no zero” policy, but the added accountability and consequences are good, in my opinion. The number of kids turning work in on time has gone up since we started doing this.


18 posted on 02/19/2014 3:25:16 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: lowbridge

You wouldn’t want to hurt their precious “self-esteem” would you? You are obviously mean-spirited. Surely, this is “for the children”.


19 posted on 02/19/2014 3:48:34 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: lowbridge
Minimum Wage hell... now it's Minimum GRADE!!!
20 posted on 02/19/2014 3:50:26 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Paladin2

The same thing happened to me in college. When I transferred credits, I wound up with about 25% more credit hours because I went from quarters to semesters. I still had to get all the required classes and so I graduated with 160 credit hours instead of 120.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 3:58:00 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: lowbridge

Johnny may have a 0, but he identifies with an 85%.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 3:58:44 PM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: FLAMING DEATH

If you cannot do 0%, then do 1%.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 4:03:05 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Paladin2

If the zero is deserved, it should hurt the average.


24 posted on 02/19/2014 4:13:14 PM PST by Bob
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To: Amendment10

Promoting them beyond their ability will hurt, not help.


25 posted on 02/19/2014 4:19:07 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Col Frank Slade

I love that movie!
Too bad Belushi died. He was truly funny. He could make me giggle just by raising an eyebrow.


26 posted on 02/19/2014 4:21:04 PM PST by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: lowbridge

27 posted on 02/19/2014 4:21:32 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: lowbridge

I believe it.

I heard that Alabama or Mississippi made passing grades different, lower, for minorities than whites.


28 posted on 02/19/2014 4:42:55 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: lowbridge

Various NYC high schools won’t allow teachers to give less than a 55, even if the kid never shows up for class. I think that’s ridiculous and totally unfair, as a kid who comes to class, tries their hardest, but isn’t the brightest bulb on the tree can wind up with a 65 for their efforts. Only a 15 point difference between not even coming to class and trying your hardest to pass but not really burning it up? No wonder only 20-something percent of NYC high school students were deemed college-ready last year.


29 posted on 02/19/2014 4:59:00 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Uncle Chip

“I think the going rate is 10 points for putting your name on the paper and turning it in.”

When I went to junior high school, we called it getting on the 49 list.


30 posted on 02/19/2014 6:14:38 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Our school system permits zeroes for individual assignments, but unless work is incomplete, we can't post a quarter grade below 60 (70 is passing). The rationale is that the kids have little hope of passing the semester if they are below 60 for a quarter.

I hate to give kids failing grades on quizzes, tests or labs because the impact on their overall grades is so dramatic. However, sometimes it's the only thing that gets them moving or gets the attention of busy parents. I have a several students who failed a quarter or came close to it. With diligence, and in some cases, tutoring, they are now making 100% on assessments. Most of them have the ability, but they've been permitted to slide through with minimal effort throughout their academic careers.

31 posted on 02/19/2014 6:55:02 PM PST by Think free or die
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To: lowbridge

This is common. Be prepared to deal with admin if you give a grade below 60% for a semester.


32 posted on 02/19/2014 9:05:18 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: Amendment10

Oh get over it! No one gives a crap about someone’s oh-so-speshul “personal circumstances” and squishy liberal nonsense like that is why we have so many stupid people.

Results, results, results! Get them or get lost!


33 posted on 02/19/2014 10:44:00 PM PST by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: sunrise_sunset
"This is common. Be prepared to deal with admin if you give a grade below 60% for a semester."

Yep. Early in the marking period, I try to inject enough fear into the kids that they'll make an effort to learn. Toward the end of the marking period, I can adjust one or two tests to bring up the average. At the end, class participation grades provide a bit more padding if I need to keep admin off my back. It's all about differentiating the group of kids into the ones who work and earn high grades, the ones who try but can't quite get it, and the ones who don't do their work. I'd like to say my grades are always a reflection of what has been learned, but that's not entirely possible in our environment. By the time I see these kids in high school science class, they've had 10 or so years of social promotion. This generation of kids is being cheated of many things, including a robust education.

34 posted on 02/20/2014 3:15:13 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: KarlInOhio

And the absolute only reason to give those points on the SAT is to obscure from low scorers, and low scorers parents, just how low their scores really are.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 3:23:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Think free or die

70 is passing? Do you not have the equivalent of a D grade?


36 posted on 02/20/2014 3:59:27 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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