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American-born snowboarder Vic Wild wins gold for Russia, U.S. Snowboarding says it 'respects'...
Yahoo Sports ^ | 17 hours ago | Kevin Kaduk

Posted on 02/19/2014 10:46:56 PM PST by cunning_fish

What's that old saying?

If you don't like the resources your nation is devoting to your snowboarding discipline, move to Russia?

Yeah, well, that's exactly what Vic Wild of White Salmon, Wash., did back in 2011 after he figured that parallel slalom snowboarding wasn't a high priority for the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association. He obtained Russian citizenship upon marrying Russian girlfriend Alena Zavarzina in Siberia and then went to work representing a different kind of red, white and blue flag. While the U.S. focused on events like halfpipe and slopestyle, the Russians were much more serious about Alpine snowboard racing.

“I told everybody in the Russian snowboard federation: If you guys take me, you’ll never regret it,” Wild told the Wall Street Journal this week.

And it won't regret anything. Wild won the gold medal in the parallel giant slalom on Wednesday, an event that saw only one American entrant. Wild later celebrated with his wife Zavarzina, a fellow snowboarder who won bronze in the women's event, and draped himself in a Russian flag.

Wild's gold medal will certainly help Russian compete against the U.S. in the medal count, but American officials weren't decrying an opportunity lost on Wednesday.

At least not publicly:

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


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1 posted on 02/19/2014 10:46:56 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

I think a South Korean also won gold playing for Russia


2 posted on 02/19/2014 10:48:01 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

At least they are attracting accomplished people there, not freeloaders and gang-bangers.


3 posted on 02/19/2014 10:55:56 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: GeronL
I'm glad I'm not watching any of the Olympics because this really pisses me off royally...

there's some wnba type players that play for Russia too....

it doesn't mean anything anymore...

this creep snowboarder better not think he's coming back here to enjoy America anymore...I hope he gets booed and his family too....the US doesn not recognize duel citizenship so goodbye jerk...

4 posted on 02/19/2014 10:57:10 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cunning_fish

Playing for another country is only justified if you fail to make the American team.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 10:58:31 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: cunning_fish

Germans look for German last names.

If it’s good, with a German last name, then it’s German.


6 posted on 02/19/2014 11:03:40 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: cherry
...the US doesn not recognize duel citizenship so goodbye jerk...

Actually, the US does recognize dual citizenship. He forfeits it if he is naturalized in another country and intends to renounce citizenship at that time.

7 posted on 02/19/2014 11:04:26 PM PST by CurlyDave (`)
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To: CurlyDave

I was informed just the other day by a Canadian that they recognize duel citizenship but the USA does not....but no matter....just hope the jerk stays over there becuz to me having that flag over his shoulders was a total insult to this country....


8 posted on 02/19/2014 11:20:10 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

“the US doesn not recognize duel citizenship so goodbye jerk...”

Actually, the US does. It pays when you have an immigration attorney friend and other friends with even 3 passports to one name.

But going back to playing for another country, sometimes it goes the other way. How many times has the US soccer team “poach” other hyphenated Americans overseas to play for the US?

case in point, Aron Johanson of Iceland who plays for the US team. He got blasted by the Icelandic media for picking the US instead of the country he grew up with. Meaning, he’s a real damn good player when your own country kills you in the media for not picking the local national team.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 11:20:40 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: cunning_fish

Adam Smith’s invisible hand at work.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 11:39:57 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: cherry

I’m glad I’m not watching any of the Olympics because this really pisses me off royally...


So because of what this guy did, you have decided NONE of our athletes deserve to be watched or supported. Enjoy wallowing in your hatred and misery. Myself,,,I refuse to allow hatred to consume me to such a degree that I can’t even enjoy the olympics.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 11:40:49 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: cherry
Maybe he didn't want to be on a team that has a bunch of homosexuals added to it for political purposes?

Either way, what does it matter? Whether he plays a silly sport for Russia or plays a silly sport for America, he is just playing a silly sport. He hasn't gone over and joined the Russian foreign legion, he hasn't smuggled national secrets to Russia, he hasn't renounced the US. All he did was play a silly game. I presume he played the silly game for Russia because that's the team that offered to take him on.

Either way, its just a game. I will NEVER understand why people take the Olympics so seriously. Sheesh.

12 posted on 02/19/2014 11:42:42 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: cherry
I was informed just the other day by a Canadian that they recognize duel citizenship but the USA does not...

And the reason why a Canadian would know more about US citizenship than, for instance, the US Department of State, which does have a website is.....?

13 posted on 02/19/2014 11:44:36 PM PST by CurlyDave (`)
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To: chessplayer

just not into the hype...period...good grief....


14 posted on 02/19/2014 11:45:52 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: CurlyDave

okay...I’m wrong....I’m wrong...I’m wrong...


15 posted on 02/19/2014 11:46:24 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: chessplayer

I chose not to watch after much of the US Olumpic team wanted to make so much of a statement around LGBT support. Hell with ‘em.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 11:51:17 PM PST by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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We are (officially) no longer in a Cold War as when I was growing up. Still, when I read that this expatriate/Gold Medalist DRAPED HIMSELF IN THE RUSSIAN FLAG, I was, shall we say, ‘disturbed’. I;d really have to be driven out by unbearable circumstance before I traded my American citizenship for that of Russsia. If I were faced with Zimmerman’s enforced pariah status, or Eric Snowden’s Big Mistake-Fugitive status, I may consider moving to, one of the Dakotas, Alaska, or Canada. I like seeing Putin make a bigger fool out of Obama than he does for himself, but I still dont trust that KGB man very much. I hear he has been ‘palling around’ with the mullahs of Iran, more than before.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 12:06:36 AM PST by lee martell
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To: cherry

No. I don’t think you are wrong.


18 posted on 02/20/2014 12:08:14 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: CurlyDave

How does the US “recognize dual citizenship”?

What does that mean?


19 posted on 02/20/2014 12:10:10 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
How does the US “recognize dual citizenship”? What does that mean?

it means we get to tax the crap out of him

20 posted on 02/20/2014 12:23:03 AM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: cunning_fish

My interest in snowboarding is probably less than I care about what Charles Manson had for lunch yesterday. And I don’t give a flying fig what Charles Manson had for lunch yesterday.

Ah, righteous dude...


21 posted on 02/20/2014 12:28:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: cunning_fish

The Russian teams are based on merit, not political correctness.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 12:29:57 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: cunning_fish

Whatever the faults of Vic Wild, wife Alena Zavarzina is Not Guilty!


23 posted on 02/20/2014 12:37:39 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: cunning_fish
How could Alena have even remotely tempted him?!
24 posted on 02/20/2014 12:39:14 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

Ah, Bronze vs. Gold... Win-win!


25 posted on 02/20/2014 12:42:28 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: spokeshave
Adam Smith’s invisible hand at work.

Boy, I'll say!

26 posted on 02/20/2014 12:43:32 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ifinnegan
How does the US “recognize dual citizenship”?

What does that mean?

It means that the US recognizes that a person can be a citizen of the US and also a citizen of another country at the same time. I have know many people who immigrated to the US, but retained citizenship in another country.

27 posted on 02/20/2014 12:45:24 AM PST by CurlyDave (`)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

28 posted on 02/20/2014 12:59:15 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: CurlyDave

>>>It means that the US recognizes that a person can be a citizen of the US and also a citizen of another country at the same time. I have know many people who immigrated to the US, but retained citizenship in another country.<<<

AFAIK, some countries demand people to officially denounce their former citizenship (for example Germany). There is no such (at least formal) thing in both US and Russia.
Keeping both passports making it easy to travel (you don’t need to apply for visa etc.)


29 posted on 02/20/2014 1:03:38 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

He lives in Russia and married a Russian girl, who is also an Olympian. They showed a video of their wedding in Russia.


30 posted on 02/20/2014 1:36:35 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: cunning_fish
So what? No worse than having a *pro* skating on a team for the 'lympics.

The whole notion of any well-trained individual can become the *best* in the world in an event has become so marginalized.

Another reason to not support the 'lympics.

Did Costas get over his conjunctivitis? That had been the mostly exciting part of these spectacles thus far.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 2:43:28 AM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: cunning_fish

He’s not alone

American athletes representing other countries in Sochi

http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/american-athletes-competing-for-other-countries-in-sochi-1392070841-slideshow/


32 posted on 02/20/2014 3:42:36 AM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: Daffynition

Yes, unfortunately, Costas finally did shake the conjunctivitis and make an appearance. Not a fan of Matt Lauer, who looks really ridiculous with that goatee, but it was better than listening to Costas, whom I despise mightily.

Costas is one of the main reasons I stopped watching the Olympics years ago. But, now, we have a DVR, so we can zip right through the garbage.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 3:45:35 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Ready4Freddy

There are a number of US-born Jewish athletes that represent Israel too.

In lacrosse, half of Team Israel at this year’s World Championship’s are American Jews. There will also be a couple of American Jews on the US team too.

It’s silly to make blanket statements against Americans that end up on foreign teams; all circumstances are individual. He MARRIED the Russian girl and the article states that America didn’t really have a team in this discipline.

And it works both ways - look at how many dual citizenship soccer players from Europe and Mexico/South America who have played for the US national team in soccer, including a few on this year’s team, like the kid from Iceland and Jermaine Jones from Germany.

But the xenophobes on this site never bother checking that part out either . . .


34 posted on 02/20/2014 4:28:31 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: cherry

If I had a brother who quit his country just to win a medal, he wouldn’t have to worry about talking to me anymore. Quit your country just to win a f..... medal. That guy is a tool.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 5:23:07 AM PST by driftless2
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To: chessplayer

Uhm, I’m not filled with hatred or Misery and I don’t care about the Olympics.


36 posted on 02/20/2014 6:49:45 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: cunning_fish
This guy may sound unpatriotic, but it's hard to blame him. He had no prospects with the U.S. team because there are almost no financial resources available to U.S. competitors in his event. The Russians devote a lot of money to training their athletes in that sport, and he was eligible to compete for them, so off he went.

Funny how nobody mentions how he qualified to compete for Russia in the first place even though he was American-born. He's required to be a Russian citizen to compete for Russia, and he qualified for Russian citizenship by marrying a Russian. Was that unpatriotic of him, too?

37 posted on 02/20/2014 7:01:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: cunning_fish

Must really piss off the IRS, they cannot tax any Gold medals.
Its a different Russia now, and if it has to be done to compete more power to these athletes. I have no problem with it, actually I wish I could have done what he did.


38 posted on 02/20/2014 7:07:51 AM PST by Spartan302
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To: cunning_fish

Meh... The guy wanted to compete and it appears the USA had first dibs and declined. No one should fault him for seeking a team that would take him -and- he’s just proven he was a *very* capable competitor.

Another thing to consider is that the guy married a Russian national and presuming it was true love, I won’t fault him there either.

I could be wildly misconstruing, but there seems to be an element of the USA having *ownership* of some sort to this guy in addition to the guy choosing Russia over the US. That doesn’t sit well with me. I don’t think any country should *own* anyone. I believe that a country should attract citizens of their own free will, rather than claiming some sort of leash on a person.

There are a lot of advantages to being an American citizen (compared to other countries) that this guy will lose if he renounces his US citizenship (beyond the loving, kind, caring treatment afforded by the IRS, TSA, NSA and the rest of the alphabet-agencies). If he chooses to walk away from those advantages, I would think him a fool but that’s his decision.

But considering national “marketing” efforts to attract citizens who are for whatever reason considered a net-asset to the country, Russia offered the dude something the USA chose not to. What’s the USA currently trying to focus on to attract quality citizens? The net-loss of amnesty for unskilled mexican peasant’s fleeing some hell-hole existence to come suckle at the teat of the US taxpayer and forever vote dummycrat.

So, I won’t fault him for his choice given the circumstances. Opinions may vary.


39 posted on 02/20/2014 7:20:26 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: CurlyDave

What legal documentation from the US assesses this?

Eg does the US put dual citizenship on their passport? No.

How does the US “recognize” this, to use your term?


40 posted on 02/20/2014 7:41:00 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: max americana

International eligibility in soccer is not necessarily based on citizenship, but rather on a ‘clear connection’ to a country a player wishes to represent. This usually means having a parent or grandparent born in that country, or residency for a period of time.

That’s how a player like Zlatan Ibrahimovic can represent Sweden.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 7:52:38 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: ifinnegan
What legal documentation from the US assesses this?

I have no idea what documentation is required. The US Department of State has a website. You could look there. Or try Google.

All I know is that it happens, and I have known people with dual citizenship.

42 posted on 02/20/2014 8:46:33 AM PST by CurlyDave (`)
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To: CurlyDave

There isn’t any.

That’s the point.

The US does not “recognize” dual citizenship.


43 posted on 02/20/2014 8:48:54 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
The US does not “recognize” dual citizenship.

Your thinking is at significant variance with the official US Government position. Just paste this in your browser and see for yourself.

http://answers.usa.gov/system/templates/selfservice/USAGov/#!portal/1012/article/3399/Dual-Citizenship

44 posted on 02/20/2014 10:12:39 AM PST by CurlyDave (`)
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To: CurlyDave

Thanks Curlydave,

The page you linked to 100% supports what I am saying and my impression of dual nationality with respect to the US.

It recognizes that it exists.

There is no legal implication one way or the other.

This is due to the nature of US naturalization and countries of origin attitudes towards citizenship.

But,

If a US citizen chooses to Actively gain foreign citizenship, he can lose his US citizenship.

To the extent that US law addresses dual nationality, it states it is not acceptable.


45 posted on 02/20/2014 10:31:18 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: cherry

It never meant anything. International competition doesn’t say anything about a country, it’s just sport, fun and enjoyable, but come Monday the number of medals people from various countries won or did not win doesn’t change anything. We wouldn’t be a better place if he’d stayed and won his medal with an American flag on his jersey.


46 posted on 02/20/2014 10:34:59 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: jaydee770
I think many peoples' gripe is that Wild apparently values his sport, which he may good at for what, MAYBE 12 years, over his US citizenship. So many have died or sacrificed dearly in other ways for this country and its citizens that I can understand the anger. However... someone would have had to teach Wild the value of his citizenship, and, given the present state of public school education in the US, this was very likely not impressed upon him whatsoever. I find it hard to blame him for that.

Alternately, but less likely, Wild looked at what is going on here, and our "slide downhill", and convinced himself that he would be no worse off in Russia, with support for what he does best (and with a beautiful wife at his side, no less!) Or maybe his wife convinced him, as others have suggested.

I do find it odd that parallel snowboarding gets no support in the US. Clearly, we could be good at it (esp. if Wild was still on the U.S. team!) Plus, I found it to be very entertaining to watch, with it's pitting of one competitor directly against another, in simultaneous / parallel "elimination" races on courses that clearly are NOT equal, but each competitor gets an opportunity on both courses.

47 posted on 02/20/2014 9:38:53 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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