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Lawsuit Against Boy Scouts of America Involves Salinas Man
KION ^ | Feb 19, 2014 | Sarah Kennedy

Posted on 02/20/2014 6:13:14 AM PST by artichokegrower

A trial is set to begin in October against the Boy Scouts of America after a Salinas man was accused of sexually assaulting a Scout back in 2007

Attorney Tim Hale is representing a young man who claims he was molested by his troop leader, Al Stein. He says the molestation happened at a Goleta Christmas tree lot in 2007.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: celebrateperversity; gaypride; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; manboylove
Why are the Boy Scouts being sued? Why aren't all of the liberal activist groups forcing the Boy Scouts to accept gay troop leaders being sued? If the Boy Scouts don't appoint gay scout leaders they get sued if they do appoint gay scout leaders they get sued. Loose, loose situation.
1 posted on 02/20/2014 6:13:14 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I will try to live by the values of my BSA Handbook, 1963. Otherwise the Scouts are dead to me.


2 posted on 02/20/2014 6:18:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

No one saw this coming - the government forced a private organization to allow predators to their children. The government should be forced to pay.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 6:20:58 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: edcoil

Actually, Scout leaders still cannot be gay. The two-deep leadership protects the Scouts. When that fails, being gay or not doesn’t matter. A predator is not going to admit it.
Predatory behavior by leaders was epidemic in the 70’s according to my friends who were Scouts. I am shocked at the stories.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 6:24:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: artichokegrower

They were hoping the alligator would eat them last...they bowed, knelt, prayed and sacrificed before the altar of political correctness...reap the whirlwind...well, their “god” has answered their prayers.

The BSA is dead to me...my attachment to them has been severed in a most vile and violent method...

And to all those on this forum who would engage in excoriating Scouters who are sticking to their principles and morals and are leaving the BSA...well, let’s just say, take a look at your BSA’s Oath and Law before you open your vile mouths and type...hypocrites.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 6:26:32 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: AppyPappy
Actually, Scout leaders still cannot be gay.

That will change within the year. The Gaystapo will have their way with their newest trophy. Count on it.

The two-deep leadership protects the Scouts. When that fails, being gay or not doesn’t matter. A predator is not going to admit it.

What, exactly, protects the Scouts? I must have missed it.

Predatory behavior by leaders was epidemic in the 70’s according to my friends who were Scouts. I am shocked at the stories.

The predation was done by homosexuals ALLOWED to be leaders by liberal scout troops who were in VIOLATION of the rules.

6 posted on 02/20/2014 6:29:37 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Two deep leadership protects the Scouts. Scouts are never alone with an adult.....ever.
A homo Scout leader who wants to prey on the kids is not going to admit he is a homo. The biggest issue we have now is older Scouts preying on younger Scouts.


7 posted on 02/20/2014 6:33:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: artichokegrower

I’m pretty sure that it was before 2007 that the Boy Scouts instituted a policy that no adult leader could be alone with a scout. They all had to go through training and there had to always be at least two leaders. Four of my nephews are Eagle Scouts and at least two of them and my brother have all served as leaders so I’m pretty sure of that policy. If there was a scout sponsored event and the policy was not followed, then the scouts get sued. Organizations like the scouts, sports, churches have always drawn pedophiles and kids have been molested. Its only been in the past few years that there have been screenings, training, and policies. When my son was doing community theater at the age of 12, small for his age, blond, very cute, I went to all the rehearsals and shows and if I could get away with it, lurked back stage. Same with wrestling. This was 15 years ago.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 6:33:32 AM PST by Mercat
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To: artichokegrower

As usual, what is wrong with the reporting here? Goleta is probably 200 miles+ down the coast from Salinas. Long way to go to molest some boy at a Christmas tree lot.

Did the reporter mean Greenfield? Gonzales? Both of these are right down the road from Salinas and are the only towns of consequence I can remember from Monterey County that start with a ‘G’.

Wait a minute! I think I have it! The reporter must mean Salinas KS.


9 posted on 02/20/2014 6:34:26 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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10 posted on 02/20/2014 6:38:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: artichokegrower

Do the Girl Scouts allow men to be troop leaders? If not, why not; if so, how are the protecting the girls from predators?


11 posted on 02/20/2014 6:50:00 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: Mercat; artichokegrower
I’m pretty sure that it was before 2007 that the Boy Scouts instituted a policy that no adult leader could be alone with a scout.

The requirement of two-deep leadership was a part of Youth Protection guidelines long before 2007.

However, a Scout Leader who wants to molest a boy is going to ignore that rule. The two-deep leadership rule only works if the other adult leaders are alert to what is going on and don't let any leader have one-on-one contact with a Scout.

12 posted on 02/20/2014 6:55:47 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: artichokegrower

Clearly someone didn’t get the memo: Homosexuals are now welcomed in the Boy Scouts.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 7:05:09 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Scoutmaster

The boys are also supposed to receive training which instructs them to never be alone with a single adult leader.

Until I severed my ties with Scouting following their decision to go gay, our Troop showed “It Happened to Me” every year following Round-Up.


14 posted on 02/20/2014 7:40:07 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: artichokegrower

I haven’t heard a reasonable explanation from the Left for why you would put a child in a risky situation like this.

I always use the example: you wouldn’t allow your daughters to share the same tent as an adult male. Or allow a male coach to be in the girls locker room. It is silly and no one would think twice. So, why force this on a boy in the Boy Scouts?

Answer: it is all about pushing the Gay agenda and innocent children be damned.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 7:52:50 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Arm_Bears
Never be alone? Ya. Right. Like that is practical on a two day hike in the wilderness.

Besides, one on one time with a adult male role model, which the boy might be lacking at home, is a good thing. Why should they even have to worry about it just to accommodate a political agenda? They are innocent kids!

16 posted on 02/20/2014 7:57:02 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: x1stcav

I, too was wondering how they ended up in Goleta.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 7:57:50 AM PST by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: AppyPappy

predatory behavior in the church went crazy in the early 70’s as gays outed themselves and moved there to stop from being drafted into vietnam.


18 posted on 02/20/2014 7:59:07 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: AppyPappy
Actually, Scout leaders still cannot be gay.

It's the rule.

But if rules and laws worked we wouldn't have crime and violence, Barack Obama wouldn't be President, Eric Holder would be in prison and this young man wouldn't have been raped by a homo Scout Leader.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 7:59:42 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Rio

We were just discussing it at the office. The only thing I can figure is that the kid happened to be a scout from the Goleta area that happened to be molested by a Souctmaster from another area?

I know it’s a stretch.

The likely explanation is we have another semi-literate ‘journalist’ botching the reporting again.


20 posted on 02/20/2014 8:01:42 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Iron Munro

Yeah but the Boy Scouts had nothing to do with it. They are just the deep pockets. Teachers do this all the time. Does anyone sue the government schools?


21 posted on 02/20/2014 8:12:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: edcoil

Interesting point.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 8:33:48 AM PST by onedoug
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To: AppyPappy

Give it six months to a year and they will allow it.


23 posted on 02/20/2014 9:27:13 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Arm_Bears

Yes, and both the leaders and Scouts (boys in Boy Scouting and boys and girls in Venturing) are supposed to renew that training annually.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 9:33:27 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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