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Markos Moulitsas: A blue Georgia
The Hill ^ | February 18, 2014 | Markos Moulitsas

Posted on 02/20/2014 6:54:50 AM PST by C19fan

Demographic changes are inevitably driving Texas and Arizona into purple — and eventually blue — territory. The growth of the Latino population is poised to overwhelm predominantly conservative white voters in both states, absent a genuine and successful rebranding by the Republican Party. But another red state will reach that status sooner: Georgia.

After Mitt Romney’s 2-point victory in North Carolina during the 2012 race, Georgia was the second closest red state at the presidential level. President Obama lost it by 7.8 points in 2012, after losing it by just over 5 points in 2008. In raw vote totals, that was 304,861 and 204,636 votes, respectively. A big number, certainly, but one that is artificially inflated by nonparticipation of core Democratic constituencies in the state. Given changing trends, Georgia’s march toward the Democratic column is inevitable.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: dailykos; demographics; georgia; gop
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Unless the GOP starts winning what were called Reagan Democrats we seem to be screwed. The problem is the GOPe pay masters will not allow the populist reform agenda needed to appeal to those people.
1 posted on 02/20/2014 6:54:50 AM PST by C19fan
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....talk about wishful thinking mr. dailykos


2 posted on 02/20/2014 6:57:53 AM PST by falcon1966
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To: C19fan

I remember the name, founder of Daly Kos.
Sounds more like a DNC shakedown of the RNC...again


3 posted on 02/20/2014 6:59:01 AM PST by Zathras
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To: C19fan

We have a “Blue Georgia.” Its called Atlanta and Savannah.
Where is Sherman when you need him?


4 posted on 02/20/2014 7:02:44 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: C19fan
Unless the GOP starts winning what were called Reagan Democrats we seem to be screwed.

The solution to that is "quit giving the Chamber of Commerce everything on their wish list, whether it's in the aggregate good for the country or not".

Start with Amnesty. Then take a look at how big banks are permitted to pick people's pockets.

The fact that the GOP ALWAYS comes down on the side of big business seems to REALLY turn-off Reagan Democrat types IMO.

Even Reagan sent some Savings and Loan perps to jail.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 7:07:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Little Ray

Atlanta could become the Detroit of the south.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 7:07:44 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: C19fan

I don’t see why I should accept tyranny just because a bunch of Mexicans in Georgia vote for it. We need to change the focus. Regardless of elections, are we going to be free or not. Our freedom isn’t a product of representative government formed by free elections. That’s not freedom, that’s majority rule. Our freedom is handed down from God and not subservient to the opinions of the a majority consisting of stupid people.

So when do we declare ourselves free in recognition of God’s natural order outlined in the Constitution? That done, any attempt to reign us in by courts, magistrates, and the majority will be an attack on our persons and subject to the natural laws of self defense.


7 posted on 02/20/2014 7:07:55 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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8 posted on 02/20/2014 7:09:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: C19fan

SECESSION!

Is the only answer

9 posted on 02/20/2014 7:11:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama: "I can do whatever I want")
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To: C19fan

When politicians have deviated from the Constitution or chamged the original blueprint for the Republic as drawn up by the Founding Fathers there have almost always been unforeseen and unwanted consequences.

The Founders were wise enough to exclude from voting people who have nothing invested in their community or the nation itself.

Now we have a majority, or near majority, of the people who live by sucking the teat of government. These people will always vote for the most unscrupulous politicans who promise them the most free stuff.

The only way to begin restoration of sanity and honesty in the electoral system is to deny voting privleges to anyone who lives on government handouts, such as welfare, that they have not contributed to or earned.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 7:13:36 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: clintonh8r
Atlanta could become the Detroit of the south.

The Braves are bugging out for the Burbs for a reason.


11 posted on 02/20/2014 7:14:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

More Spaniard threats.

We will overwhelm you! Submit or die!

The leader of the landscapers shakes his fist at the Americans and threatens to walk away from his rake...


12 posted on 02/20/2014 7:15:32 AM PST by Regulator
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To: C19fan
Georgia -- along with most of the former Confederate states -- were heavily Democratic states for decades. The Republican trend was only a recent phenomenon, as the Democrats became more and more of a political party of freaks.

It wouldn't take much to turn these states back to "Blue," considering the racial/ethnic makeup of their populations. A lot of folks who aren't familiar with the South don't realize how large the black population is down there. And that's a group that would cast 90% of its vote even for a white Democratic candidate with a KKK past.

13 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: C19fan

The only real answer to this is to stop voter fraud. If anyone believes Dems are really winning all these states when a good portion of those Mexicans are illegal and not supposed to be voting at all, well...


14 posted on 02/20/2014 7:20:06 AM PST by Kenny
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To: demshateGod

I share your ire, but our peril is being caused by not only immigrants, but changing internal demographics, morals, plus the (un)intended(?) consequences of 30 plus years of socialist education, globalization, and the explosion and proliferation of technology. We are now clearly a minority. The only question left may be how do we enter the dust bin of history.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 7:22:04 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: Little Ray

That darned Sherman stopped the army and “gave” Savannah to Lincoln for a Christmas present intact! A beautiful, married lady from Savannah gets the credit. (This just for history buffs) :-)


16 posted on 02/20/2014 7:28:15 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: C19fan

Sorry the Kos is confused and does NOT understand Georgia politics. His analysis is wishful thinking.

the thing that will be most interesting will be the governor’s race.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 7:37:10 AM PST by Nifster
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To: C19fan; Jacquerie

Georgia is working hard to be the first state to pass the Convention of States application.

The House Judiciary Committee and the House Rules Committee have passed the Convention of States application.

Georgia delegates decided to move the resolution to the House floor right away.
The Georgia House will be voting on the COS application today!
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Georgia House Bill HR 1215
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20132014/138674.pdf
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Georgia Takes Final Steps
http://conventionofstates.com/news/georgia-takes-final-steps
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18 posted on 02/20/2014 7:37:30 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: buckalfa

I agree with Buckalfa. Our country has changed. Recently on freerepublic someone posted a chart/graph regarding the religious nature of the country. There’s been a steady decline in church attendance and a growth in those who are atheist or agnostic with the greatest decline occurring since the late 1980’s forward. Morals make a difference. Christianity is on the wane in our nation and it’s having a negative impact. Remember these quotes:
John Adams - We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Benjamin Rush - The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be aid in religion. Without this there can be NO virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments. Without religion, I believe that learning does real mischief to the morals and principles of mankind. Noah Webster - [T]he Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . . . and I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of that religion have not a controlling influence.

Do you really think this Republic can be saved without the same mind and heart that these men possessed? Can you imagine what it would take to return us as a nation to their same attitudes? In light of these facts, it’s hard to be optimistic about our country. God will not be mocked. What you sow you will reap. Since we don’t want Him involved in our nation any longer we get the communists and the Miley Cyruses of the world. Enjoy them while you can. It’s going to be a very bad harvest America.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 7:41:58 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Nifster
Sorry the Kos is confused and does NOT understand Georgia politics. His analysis is wishful thinking.

He may be wrong about Georgia but a number of stats I've seen for Texas suggest that he might be correct about that state.If Texas goes,the country's finished....there'll never be another decent,respectable,trustworthy President again in our lifetimes.Or the lifetimes of our grandchildren.

20 posted on 02/20/2014 7:44:37 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama: "I can do whatever I want")
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To: Gay State Conservative
SECESSION!

Is the only answer.

It's too late for that. Les jeux sont fait.

21 posted on 02/20/2014 7:52:42 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: C19fan

The slight violet hue you are imagining over Georgia is because the last two Presidential candidates were not nearly Conservative enough for Red Georgia voters, so the Conservative voters stayed home, while the “blue” vote turned out in force for Obama.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 8:06:40 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: All
Does anyone remember when “latino” was just another way of saying illegal alien or gang member youths?

Legitimate cultural discussions used the term “Hispanic”.

23 posted on 02/20/2014 8:08:26 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: OldPossum
It's too late for that. Les jeux sont fait.

Really? Quebec came *this* close to seceding a few years back.And Scotland has a referendum coming up later this year.

24 posted on 02/20/2014 8:24:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama: "I can do whatever I want")
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To: Gay State Conservative

hence the reason the dims want immigration reform. they need the voters to flip Texas and Georgia.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 8:25:54 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: falcon1966

Liberal dreaming as usual. GA has almost a GOP supermajority in both state houses. Governor, Lt Gov, SOS etc republican. Two republican senators.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 8:27:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: C19fan
Unless the GOP starts winning what were called Reagan Democrats we seem to be screwed.

I don't think there are Reagan Democrats anymore. As the Democrat party has moved further and further to the left, those Reagan Democrats have either become Republicans or forsaken both parties altogether.

27 posted on 02/20/2014 8:30:56 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: buckalfa

Nonsense. The dems were whining the same thing when Bush was re-elected back in 2008.

Most people are conservatives at heart, notwithstanding what they’ve been indoctrinated with in public schools and by the liberal media.

The darkest hour is just before dawn. Vote for conservatives, not Republicans.


28 posted on 02/20/2014 8:40:32 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: Lake Living; buckalfa

All excellent points which should temper the attitudes of anyone who would boldly claim “a solid South” - or any part of the nation. While there may be pockets here and there nationwide that have fairly reliable voting bases the last several election cycles have demonstrated that there are no locks that can (or should) be counted on.

The one element that I haven’t seen articulated yet is the siren song of the “Santa Clause Syndrome”, the leftist tactic of winning votes (and thus control) by giving away free stuff (at taxpayer expense). We’ve seen it played out many times since Øbongo seized the reins - the woman who enthusiastically claimed post-election, “Now we have someone who will take care of me and buy my gasoline!” to the infamous “Øbamaphone” lady to the startling statistics of the flood of people to public assistance.

How can we counter the allure of “free stuff” when all we have to offer is the promise that if you work hard and live clean you’ll eventually be rewarded? I am of the opinion that the only thing that will work in our favor is that the money won’t last forever - that leftist largesse only works as long as they have other people around to pay for it.

Dark days ahead.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 8:48:53 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agreed...absloutely right. The more we lowered their taxes the fewer wealthy conservatives there are and the more feckless the remaining became. That was a big mistake.


30 posted on 02/20/2014 9:57:06 AM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“those Reagan Democrats have either become Republicans or forsaken both parties altogether.”

Or died. a lot of them were older new Deal Dem’s (often ethnic Catholics in the North) who went to the New Deal in the sky and wee replaced by amore trendy younger generation.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 10:13:22 AM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“those Reagan Democrats have either become Republicans or forsaken both parties altogether.”

Or died. a lot of them were older new Deal Dem’s (often ethnic Catholics in the North) who went to the New Deal in the sky and wee replaced by amore trendy younger generation.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 10:15:32 AM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: Iron Munro
Voter quals in congressional elections were up to the states.

The Framers’ check on runaway democracy was a senate of the states. The 17th Amendment was a horrible mistake.

33 posted on 02/20/2014 10:21:41 AM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: C19fan
I'm setting my GPS for Galt's Gulch.
34 posted on 02/20/2014 10:27:33 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Gay State Conservative

My point is that the electorate has changed so much that the numbers in our favor are just not there. Look at the increase in South American immigrants (not prone to having American values anyway...they’re here for the ride) and the number of people on food stamps and other forms of welfare. I don’t think that the latter category will be willing to give it up.

And Texas (which is considered the leader in such a scenario of secession) is trending blue.

At least that’s the way I see it. But I’ve never thought of myself as a cock-eyed optimist, anyway. You obviously see things differently...and you may right—I hope so.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 10:27:52 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My point is that the electorate has changed so much that the numbers in our favor are just not there. Look at the increase in South American immigrants (not prone to having American values anyway...they’re here for the ride) and the number of people on food stamps and other forms of welfare. I don’t think that the latter category will be willing to give it up.

And Texas (which is considered the leader in such a scenario of secession) is trending blue.

At least that’s the way I see it. But I’ve never thought of myself as a cock-eyed optimist, anyway. You obviously see things differently...and you may right—I hope so.


36 posted on 02/20/2014 10:27:52 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Resolute Conservative; VerySadAmerican; Nuc 1.1; MamaTexan; Political Junkie Too; jeffc; 1010RD; ...
The Georgia House will be voting on the COS application today!

That is fabulous news!

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF17 GEORGIA that the General Assembly of the State of Georgia hereby applies to Congress,18 under the provisions of Article V of the Constitution of the United States, for the calling of19 a convention of the states limited to proposing amendments to the United States Constitution that impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of21 the federal government, and limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress.

37 posted on 02/20/2014 10:29:35 AM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: Jacquerie

Great news! Go Georgia!!


38 posted on 02/20/2014 10:33:36 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: C19fan

The Hill meets DailyKos. How exciting! Not ;)


39 posted on 02/20/2014 10:34:30 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: C19fan

Markos Moulitsas LoL. The Daily Kook must be toking on some bad stuff.


40 posted on 02/20/2014 10:42:34 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: OldPossum

BTW,, Gay State Conservative, I did not mean to attach the term “cock-eyed optimist” (which could be considered derogatory) to you. I was simply describing myself as not an optimistic person. Sorry about the possible insinuation.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 10:43:40 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

See post 41. I meant to address that post to you but unfortunately, I didn’t.


42 posted on 02/20/2014 10:44:57 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Alberta's Child
And that's a group that would cast 90% of its vote even for a white Democratic candidate with a KKK past.

Some of them, even if he was CURRENTLY in the KKK.

43 posted on 02/20/2014 2:35:59 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: amnestynone

You’re likely correct.

50 yr old voters for Reagan’s first win would be 86 for the next POTUS election.


44 posted on 02/20/2014 2:40:09 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Alberta's Child
And that's a group that would cast 90% of its vote even for a white Democratic candidate with a KKK past.

Probably true but I don't see them being broken glass voters for Hillary. She'll get 90% of a lot less votes than Obama did.

45 posted on 02/20/2014 2:45:00 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Iron Munro
The only way to begin restoration of sanity and honesty in the electoral system is to deny voting privleges to anyone who lives on government handouts, such as welfare, that they have not contributed to or earned.

YES!!!!! And an Article V convention could propose such an amendment, bypassing the U.S. Congress (which would never go for that) and bypassing the Supreme Court (which would probably rule it unconstitutional, although it isn't.)

46 posted on 02/20/2014 4:34:49 PM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s interesting, because big business is 100% on the side of the left now. They made the difference in gay marriage. They are pushing climate change. They hate conservatives.


47 posted on 02/20/2014 4:51:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: C19fan

The very first person I look to for advice on the future of conservatives is Markos. Really, the very first. Really.


48 posted on 02/20/2014 4:52:33 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: clintonh8r

LOL


49 posted on 02/20/2014 4:53:05 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Georgia Girl 2

2 Republican Senators? More like one Republican, who morphed into a Democrat, then retired.


50 posted on 02/20/2014 4:58:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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