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Medic: At least 70 protesters killed in Kiev
Yahoo News ^ | 20 Feb 2014 | YURAS KARMANAU

Posted on 02/20/2014 8:58:56 AM PST by mandaladon

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Fearing that a call for a truce was a ruse, protesters tossed firebombs and advanced upon police lines Thursday in Ukraine's embattled capital. Government snipers shot back and the almost-medieval melee that ensued left at least 70 people dead and hundreds injured. Video footage on Ukrainian television showed shocking scenes Thursday of protesters being cut down by gunfire, lying on the pavement as comrades rushed to their aid. Trying to protect themselves with shields, teams of protesters carried bodies away on sheets of plastic or on planks of wood.

Protesters were also seen leading policemen with their hands held high around the sprawling protest camp in central Kiev. Ukraine's Interior ministry says 67 police were captured in all. It was not clear how they were taken. An opposition lawmaker said they were being held in Kiev's occupied city hall.

President Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition protesters who demand his resignation are locked in an epic battle over the identity of Ukraine, a nation of 46 million that has divided loyalties between Russia and the West. Parts of the country — mostly in its western cities — are in open revolt against Yanukovych's central government, while many in eastern Ukraine favor strong ties with Russia, their former Soviet ruler.

At least 99 people have died this week in the clashes in Kiev, a sharp reversal in three months of mostly peaceful protests. Now neither side appears willing to compromise, with the opposition insisting on Yanukovych's resignation and an early election and the president apparently prepared to fight until the end.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; deathtoll; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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Civil war has begun...Russia could be next.
1 posted on 02/20/2014 8:58:56 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
They're stuck on stupid unfortunately. Just go home. This will get you nowhere.

Like it or not, The EU will do you know good. Russia is willing to support you for a time.

2 posted on 02/20/2014 9:00:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: mandaladon
President Barack Obama stepped in to condemn the violence, warning Wednesday "there will be consequences" for Ukraine if it keeps up. The U.S. has raised the prospect of joining with the EU to impose sanctions against Ukraine...........Another foreign policy success of the Obama administration.
3 posted on 02/20/2014 9:01:52 AM PST by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon
This is all of Putin's making. He's pulling the strings. The Ukrainians want to be free. Let them go, Putin, you KGB thug.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/19/opinion/ghitis-ukraine-sochi/

4 posted on 02/20/2014 9:03:33 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: mandaladon

Fearing that a call for a truce was a ruse, protesters tossed firebombs and advanced upon police lines


Fearing a thing, they created it.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 9:04:01 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Sacajaweau

There is definitely nothing we can do about the situation.

Lots of people here in the states emotionally screeching “WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING!” but if you ask them what we gotta do, they got nuthin.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 9:05:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mandaladon

so next we invade Ukraine?

Is every problem our problem?

I am not an isolationist but we sure get into a lot of civil wars that have no national interest. A whole lot of “broader humanitarian concerns.”

But I will admit ignorance on this one. Anybody have a brief synopsis on what this conflict is about?


7 posted on 02/20/2014 9:05:14 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: mandaladon
Hands off Ukraine, Putin, you KGB thug.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA

8 posted on 02/20/2014 9:05:33 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: mandaladon

That pos Øbamais learning about all this on the tv news just like you and me . . .


9 posted on 02/20/2014 9:06:54 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: DariusBane
It's not our fight, but it is something that matters.

Here is a link that explains things well enough.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/19/opinion/ghitis-ukraine-sochi/

10 posted on 02/20/2014 9:08:15 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: cripplecreek
There is definitely nothing we can do about the situation.

Freedom isn't free, the people are making the first payments

11 posted on 02/20/2014 9:09:43 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: mandaladon

Its not a Civil War when one side is being bankrolled by George Soros and the US/NATO. Its called subversion.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 9:12:11 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Thank you for the view from the Kremlin. It is much appreciated.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 9:13:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: NativeSon

They are shooting protesters down in Caracas too, but the government has the media under control there with officials in every news room.


14 posted on 02/20/2014 9:14:59 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: NativeSon

They won’t find freedom with the EU either but its all something they need to figure out for themselves.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 9:16:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 1rudeboy
Thank you for the view from the Kremlin. It is much appreciated.

You're welcome. Now prove me wrong.

16 posted on 02/20/2014 9:18:04 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: DariusBane
Ukraine agreed to enter a trade pact with the EU (probably as a precursor to joining).
Russia was displeased, and made an offer Ukraine "couldn't" refuse.
The Ukrainian president went with the Russian offer.
The portion of Ukraine that wants nothing to do with Russia took to the streets.

That's about it.

17 posted on 02/20/2014 9:18:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Right after you give me a foot massage. /s


18 posted on 02/20/2014 9:18:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: elhombrelibre

Damn that’s a mess.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 9:21:48 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: mandaladon

Pray for these people. I have a friend who family is there. Wonder if Obama would give them asylum? Probably not, they are Christians.


20 posted on 02/20/2014 9:23:35 AM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Perhaps they need to talk to the Czechs and Slovaks about how to go through a “Velvet Divorce.”


21 posted on 02/20/2014 9:24:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Are you supporting the atheists in the government over the Christian protestors?

Religious practice was generally stronger in the western part of the country due to Western Ukraine being part of Soviet Union for shorter period(1939–41; 1944–91).
22 posted on 02/20/2014 9:26:32 AM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Chad_the_Impaler
Are you supporting the atheists in the government over the Christian protestors?

The violent rioters are backed by Soros, Juan McCain, Obama, and the Soviet EU. I unquestioningly support anyone that opposes them.

23 posted on 02/20/2014 9:29:06 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Absolutely! If you want to go full Soviet, why go halfway.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 9:31:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mandaladon

Yep. This has not been a protest for a few days. This is a war. The opposition are treating it as such. The government knows it but doesn’t know what to do yet.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 9:31:24 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Chad_the_Impaler
Fully 60+% of the people in the Ukraine consider themselves atheist according to CIA world Factbook.

That includes a majority in the Western 1/2.

26 posted on 02/20/2014 9:32:10 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: demshateGod
The government knows it but doesn’t know what to do yet.

They know if they take the gloves off that the US/EU will do to Ukraine what they did to Serbia, Libya, and Syria. If the Ukrainian government doesn't lay down and die the US/EU will probably do it anyway.

27 posted on 02/20/2014 9:35:06 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

They’re going to have to take off the gloves or perish.


28 posted on 02/20/2014 9:42:49 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mariner

It all makes a great distraction for our dictator.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 9:43:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 1rudeboy
There are no good alternatives. Neither group has clean hands. Firebombs aren't passive resistance. Of course they were likely just a few, perhaps paid, false flag provocateurs, maybe Russian agents. Who is to know? This is not as easy as detecting the MB in Cairo shooting their fellow MBrs in the back.

What concrete steps do you think the U.S. should take, other than talk?

30 posted on 02/20/2014 9:43:39 AM PST by Kennard
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
the US/EU will do to Ukraine what they did to Serbia, Libya, and Syria.

That could not happen, since the Ukraine is in the Russian sphere of influence, starting with simple geography.

31 posted on 02/20/2014 9:46:45 AM PST by Kennard
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To: Kennard
In this case, I would argue that any provocateurs would be sniffed-out.

There's nothing the U.S. can do, other than talk. And hopefully remember that there are people in this part of the world who don't like Russians.

32 posted on 02/20/2014 9:48:59 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mandaladon

I’ll be much more interested when this kind of thing begins in DC.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 9:49:04 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

The way things are going...it won’t be long.


34 posted on 02/20/2014 9:51:06 AM PST by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah... Because free trade with the West and self determination isn’t worth it. Putin’s promises of a New Soviet, with a shiny new label, are so much better.

/sarc


35 posted on 02/20/2014 9:53:30 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: mandaladon
The way things are going...it won’t be long.
This "100% peaceful" event is formed and gaining traction: http://www.operationamericanspring.org/forum/forum.php

Will they get more mainstream media coverage than the March for Life has gotten over the years?
36 posted on 02/20/2014 9:56:50 AM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: Sacajaweau
Russia is willing to support you for a time.

Familiar sales pitch. But then came the Famine in 1932

37 posted on 02/20/2014 9:57:00 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Mariner

The West is majority Catholic. Atheist??? That’s mostly in the East, where many still hold to old Communist traditions.


38 posted on 02/20/2014 10:03:50 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: TexasRepublic
"I’ll be much more interested when this kind of thing begins in DC."

Indeed, and I fear that is what it is going to take to wrest DC from the Uniparty.

39 posted on 02/20/2014 10:04:12 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

The longer we wait on that, the harder that toilet is going to be to flush...


40 posted on 02/20/2014 10:06:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: elhombrelibre
This is all of Putin's making. He's pulling the strings. The Ukrainians want to be free. Let them go, Putin, you KGB thug.

At least that is what the Obama admin. & USSA media hacks would like you to believe...and those guys never lie do they?

41 posted on 02/20/2014 10:19:52 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Okay, so you believe a former Communist thug over the Ukrainian people. Do you know any Ukrainian history? Did you ever hear or read about what Stalin did the Ukrainians?


42 posted on 02/20/2014 10:21:23 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: Kennard; DariusBane

Nobody is asking for foreign military intervention.

What’s being asked is to deny travelling visas (done) and impose economic sanctions on government officials who authorized the police crackdown 3 months ago and had sanctioned kidnappings/beatings/murders that took place ever since.

Freeze their assets to hurt them where it hurts.


43 posted on 02/20/2014 10:22:02 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: 1rudeboy

The Soros Fan Club beat us to the punch again!


44 posted on 02/20/2014 10:24:27 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Love your patron George Soros, don’t you! We understand.


45 posted on 02/20/2014 10:25:08 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: mac_truck
Try reading up on the Ukraine and how those people have suffered under totalitarians.

http://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465031471/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392920793&sr=8-1&keywords=Blood+Lands+the+land+between

46 posted on 02/20/2014 10:28:00 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: mandaladon

The ignorance of some here matches well the ignorance at the White Hut. Congratulations, your POTUS represents you well!


47 posted on 02/20/2014 10:30:05 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Don’t need a history lesson from another neoliberal sock puppet...thanks anyway.


48 posted on 02/20/2014 10:33:05 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

I’ve been a conservative longer than you’ve probably been alive, you pro-Putin dupe.


49 posted on 02/20/2014 10:34:07 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free USA.)
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To: mandaladon

Not to worry.

John Fraud Kerry is on the job.

Huge Vietnam-sized sarc.


50 posted on 02/20/2014 10:36:34 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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