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After Soda Stream Factory Visit, Church Leaders Reject Boycotts (Presbyterians)
INN ^ | 2/20/2014, 11:45 AM | Maayana Miskin

Posted on 02/20/2014 9:25:41 PM PST by Olog-hai

A delegation of 14 leaders from the Presbyterian clergy, a church that in the past supported boycotting Israeli products manufactured in Judea and Samaria (Shomron), arrived last week to visit Israel.

The visit was organized by the America-Israel Friendship League (AIFL); the delegates’ goal was to discover Israel personally and to better understand the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Representatives from the Presbyterian Church, which has an estimated six million followers, visited the Soda Stream factory, which is located in Maaleh Adumim, east of Jerusalem. They spoke to representatives from the management and several employees.

While some United States-based religious groups, such as Evangelicals and Mormons, are known for their support of Israel, the Presbyterian Church has historically been critical of Israel, and has even supported boycotts of Israeli products such as “Ahava” and “Dkalim”. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boycotts; israel; pcusa; presbyterianchurch; rop; sodastream

1 posted on 02/20/2014 9:25:41 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
So this company has to get approval from a church or they'll be threatened with economic damages?
2 posted on 02/20/2014 9:33:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Presbyterian Church


3 posted on 02/20/2014 9:36:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Olog-hai

I know that there are at least two major Presbyterian denominations in the US. Any difference in attitudes towards Israel between them?


4 posted on 02/20/2014 9:43:05 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Olog-hai
Representatives from the Presbyterian Church, which has an estimated six million followers

Reporters who don't know how to use Google.

"The total membership of the PC(USA) at the end of 2012 was 1,849,496, compared to 1,952,287 in 2011, which is a decline of 102,791 members." http://www.pcusa.org/news/2013/5/30/stated-clerk-releases-pcusa-2012-statistics/

5 posted on 02/20/2014 9:47:14 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Slings and Arrows

The biggest one is a new world order outfit, pcusa.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 9:48:55 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you. PCA any different?


7 posted on 02/20/2014 9:50:07 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Olog-hai

That church has been infested with islamonazis for years but there are still many good Christians within it. Every once in awhile , the good people win a round in their battle against Satan’s principalities and powers (Ephesians 6:12 ). God bless the good Christians who’ve decided to fight it out within their infiltrated church ( instead of taking the easy way, out).


8 posted on 02/20/2014 9:53:09 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Slings and Arrows
I know that there are at least two major Presbyterian denominations in the US. Any difference in attitudes towards Israel between them?

Depending on where you want to draw the line, there are over a dozen presbyterian denominations in this country, admittedly, most are not 'major'. The story deals with the largest, leftwing PCUSA.

The second largest, PCA, has not adopted a position paper on Israel. There may have been an overture adopted at some point, but that denomination tends to try to stick to moral issues, rather than political ones.

9 posted on 02/20/2014 9:53:42 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Slings and Arrows

Nowhere near that far out.

But they do not fully subscribe to the Westminster Confession, though I hear some congregations are supposed to be on the conservative side.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 9:56:01 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The only thing I found was what appears to be a resolution from over 20 years ago where the PCA called for the evangelism of both Jews and Gentiles.


11 posted on 02/20/2014 9:59:37 PM PST by PAR35
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The employees in the plant are entirely “Palestinian”, iow, not a big surprise. If the current Presbyterian church leadership had been around during the Holocaust, they’d accuse incinerated Jews of causing climate change. Thanks Olog-hai.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 10:03:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: PAR35; PieterCasparzen

Thank you both. With so many denominations in the country, it can be hard to tell the players without a scorecard.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 10:04:09 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The PCA we attended was very conservative. ..we even received a letter from the pastor advising all church goers to shun a male member (husband) who had had an affair and was divorcing his wife...


14 posted on 02/20/2014 10:37:03 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I know that there are at least two major Presbyterian denominations in the US. Any difference in attitudes towards Israel between them?

Oh yeah. PC-USA is the one doing this. Not the PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) or the Orthodox Presbyterian church as far as I know. PC-USA is extremely liberal right now and may be going the way of the Episcopal church.

15 posted on 02/21/2014 2:48:10 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Olog-hai
A delegation of 14 leaders from the Presbyterian clergy

I am giving them credit for visiting this Israel/West Bank factory and seeing what is really going on

16 posted on 02/21/2014 2:53:55 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I give the Presbyterians credit for actually investigating the situation instead of merely following the leftist propaganda.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 4:08:59 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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19 posted on 02/21/2014 5:40:14 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Slings and Arrows
With so many denominations in the country, it can be hard to tell the players without a scorecard.

Not just between denominations. You need a scorecard to keep track within the larger groups such as the Southern Baptists or the Catholics.

20 posted on 02/21/2014 7:25:39 AM PST by PAR35
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21 posted on 02/25/2014 5:19:36 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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