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Mississippi's Flag: The Issue May Be Coming to a Head Again
NewsMS.com ^ | 02\20\2014 | Chris Davis

Posted on 02/21/2014 1:05:47 AM PST by WKB

JACKSON, Miss.–Thirteen years ago Mississippians voted to keep the state flag with the Confederate “Stars and Bars”. Lately there has been a new wave of calls for the legislature to take it off the pole.

Sunday’s incident at Ole Miss, where a Georgia flag, pre-2003, with the “Stars and Bars”, was draped over the statue of James Meredith, has sparked some discussion from the state’s NAACP president, Derrick Johnson, who says he was part of a lawsuit in the 1990s to get the flag removed.

He said Tuesday that he is still resolute about taking the flag down.

“It’s a symbol that has prevented the NCAA from playing games in the State of Mississippi,” he said. “We must move beyond our past and not continue to remember a legacy based in racial hatred in a way in which it doesn’t empower all Mississippians.”

He’s not the only one. State Sen. Kenny Wayne Jones (D-Canton) recently called for a change to the flag. The California Bar Assoc. said it would not display Mississippi’s flag because they believe it represents racial hatred.

Mississippi’s flag was adopted in 1894.

On Tuesday’s “Head to Head” on SuperTalk Mississippi, hosts Matt Wyatt and Richard Cross opened the phone lines to see not only what Mississippians thought about the Ole Miss incident, but also about the state flag, and whether it should be changed.

“I’d love to hear from somebody elected to public office in the State of Mississippi to explain to me one reason not to change our current flag that is offensive to many,” said Cross.

“It’s a shame that I see every other SEC school getting to put their state flag on their helmets and we can’t because of the history. So it may be time to let the change happen,” said one caller. “It’s gonna have to be a legislative thing because I don’t believe the voters will change it.”

“It’s a part of history and I’m tired of hearing racism this and racism that, the state flag is the state flag. Get over it,” said another caller.

“It’s just a stupid flag and it’s time to make a change,” said another.

“Slavery was under the American flag. Under the American flag we slaughtered the Indians,” said a caller. “You’re saying most of the people in Mississippi are uneducated and can’t make a choice. You said it had to be done legislatively.”

If the show is any indication, most of the callers seemed to favor changing the flag if it is a hindrance to Mississippi’s progress.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: dixie; mississippi; saintandrewscross
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1 posted on 02/21/2014 1:05:47 AM PST by WKB
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To: Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; ...

Mississippi ping


2 posted on 02/21/2014 1:06:45 AM PST by WKB
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To: WKB

i vote we do away with all symbols of any kind of remembrance or adherents to that thing called being civil or civilization

for all the people that just dont get it there is nothing civil about civil war

if you dont believe me ask the syrians

and then ask if anyone cares

they wont

but i do

and once again

it wont be civil


3 posted on 02/21/2014 1:19:18 AM PST by bigheadfred (i>)
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To: bigheadfred

I’d go with the idea...either the current flag....or no flag at all. Nothing really says you have to have a flag. We can just honor the pole...empty as it might be, and stand to salute the pole...rather than flag.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 1:29:50 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: WKB

Stupid reporter, stupid reporting. The Mississippi flag does not have the “stars and bars”.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 1:44:07 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: WKB

Yup, gotta change, because somebody *might* be offended .


6 posted on 02/21/2014 1:45:54 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: pepsionice; cloudmountain; Daffynition

hey pepsi dont mind me
“theres a storm inside my head
and i know it doesnt lead
to a clearer day
when nobody
can cry”


7 posted on 02/21/2014 1:50:38 AM PST by bigheadfred (/j>and the jokes on you)
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To: pepsionice

Obummer can definitely get behind honoring the pole.


8 posted on 02/21/2014 2:10:53 AM PST by Rastus
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To: WKB
We defeated these race-baiters twice, already.
We'll do it again.
These stinking liberals who don;ty like history can GO TO HELL !!!
And if they don't like our flag, they can get the hell out!
9 posted on 02/21/2014 2:13:23 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: WKB
“It’s a symbol that has prevented the NCAA from playing games in the State of Mississippi,” said, the NAACP president, Derrick Johnson, (pictured below).
“We must move beyond our past and not continue to remember a legacy based in racial hatred in a way in which it doesn’t empower all Mississippians.”





I love our state flag!

10 posted on 02/21/2014 2:15:18 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Yosemitest



BTTT
11 posted on 02/21/2014 2:17:19 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: WKB
Bad journalist. Not the "Confederate “Stars and Bars”. It is the "Southern Cross".

Stars and Bars:

Southern Cross (Battle flag):


12 posted on 02/21/2014 2:22:01 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: WKB

Every Martin Luther King Day (a.k.a. 3 day January holiday for government “workers”), an africanhyphenamerican themed radio station in Detroit organizes bus loads of young ahyphenas to go to South Carolina to protest the Southern Cross flag displayed on the capitol property. As if there is not enough destruction, poverty, and ahyphena generated crime in Detroit they should be addressing.


13 posted on 02/21/2014 2:51:35 AM PST by RushLake (Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles. (Emerson))
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To: WKB
Mississippi:

Georgia:

14 posted on 02/21/2014 2:54:12 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: WKB
Here's a little history. Now ~ you race-baiters ~ stick that in your pipe and smoke it!
15 posted on 02/21/2014 2:58:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: WKB
Here's some more history.
16 posted on 02/21/2014 3:28:14 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: WKB

Let’s disband the NAACP!


17 posted on 02/21/2014 3:30:59 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: WKB
Kenneth Wayne Jones, District 21 - Attala, Holmes, Madison, Yazoo (Democrat),
it's time to PRIMARY your sorry liberal anti-Mississippi butt!
18 posted on 02/21/2014 3:38:08 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: WKB

Why don’t you do something about your state’s miserable economy instead of whining about a frickin’ flag? Oh...that wouldn’t serve your TRUE agenda, wouldn’t it? Appease, appease, appease...it gets old.


19 posted on 02/21/2014 3:42:18 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: WKB
“It’s gonna have to be a legislative thing because I don’t believe the voters will change it.”

Doesn't that statement say it all? And if it's not a legislative thing, it's a judicial thing.

20 posted on 02/21/2014 4:00:10 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: WKB

Our Flag will fly for as long as the Flag of the USA flies. We will NEVER change it.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 4:26:00 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: WKB

“It’s gonna have to be a legislative thing because I don’t believe the voters will change it.”

THE LEGISLATURE IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE DAMN VOTERS! What is this?!


22 posted on 02/21/2014 4:56:43 AM PST by Viennacon (M)
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To: WKB

When black crime, black unwed mothers, and black politicians become irrelevant, they unravel the attack upon the State Flag of Mississippi as a rallying point. They have nothing else to defend because their culture is so corrupt the only thing they can do is attack others. It is such with this coordinated attack. They have nothing else with which to do that is positive so they have chosen to criticize a state that honors its heroes that fought for the State of Mississippi, not the Federal Government, and stood by them.


23 posted on 02/21/2014 5:31:35 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: WKB
Sunday’s incident at Ole Miss, where a Georgia flag, pre-2003, with the “Stars and Bars”, was draped over the statue of James Meredith...

Reserving any judgement in this until more information is available> I'll bet that a black student or someone in the NAACP did this.

24 posted on 02/21/2014 5:32:18 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: WKB

Holmes, an NAACP member from Mississippi, attacked the flag when he was under investigation for statutory rape and was later convicted. Hooks, the National President of the NAACP, attacked the flag when he was embezzling money from that organization. I could go on but when these charlatans are doing evil on the side they have to have a distraction.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 8:14:06 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: WKB

Warning to the good people of Mississippi they took our flag in a midnight vote ginned up by the POS Dem governor Roy Barnes. We got rid of Roy shortly afterward but once they get the flag you never get it back.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 8:19:40 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Malichi; WXRGina; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; ...

OXFROD, Miss. – Ole Miss Campus police have identified three white 19-year-old freshmen males from Georgia as suspects in the desecration of the James Meredith statue.

University of Mississippi Chief of Police Calvin Sellers said in a written statement that campus police had gathered enough evidence by late Wednesday to bring charges through the student judicial process against two of the students, and both state and federal authorities were working to determine whether criminal charges are necessary. A third suspect was identified and questioned Thursday.

All three, represented by Oxford attorneys, declined late Thursday to be questioned by campus police. The student’s names were not released because of privacy laws.
- See more at: http://www.newsms.fm/statue-suspects-silent/#sthash.FVNP1uuQ.dpuf


27 posted on 02/21/2014 8:35:07 AM PST by WKB
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To: Georgia Girl 2

See above


28 posted on 02/21/2014 8:36:20 AM PST by WKB
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To: Viennacon

They will NEVER get a flag change through our Legislature... oh the racists will try but they will fail.


29 posted on 02/21/2014 8:38:20 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: WKB

Oh, just GREAT! Now that they’ve identified 3 white boys, there will be no end to the changes affected in the name of diversity and tolerance.....


30 posted on 02/21/2014 8:41:29 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Viennacon; cincinnati65; who knows what evil?; Yosemitest; Altura Ct.; Repeal The 17th; RushLake; ..

See #27


31 posted on 02/21/2014 8:46:37 AM PST by WKB
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To: Yosemitest

Kenny Wayne is a crook.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 8:48:32 AM PST by Malichi (!)
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To: WKB

Face it, they will never stop. Resistance to their
agenda must be crushed. It cannot be allowed to
exist. People might start thinking they had a choice.
They might start harboring a pride in their heritage.
They might feel that their rights and freedoms were
being taken away. It’s so much better if they feel
they are losing something by keeping those remnants
of their past.

Here is’s plain.


33 posted on 02/21/2014 8:50:55 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Malichi
And a racist a-hole that has his lips velcro’d to the Blackmons’ butts.
My fellow Mississippians will know exactly to whom I refer.
34 posted on 02/21/2014 8:51:46 AM PST by Malichi (!)
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To: Malichi

Is that a USMC button I see on his lapel? If so, then I believe I have finally found an EX-Marine.


35 posted on 02/21/2014 9:10:03 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: WKB
My point was that the black community should start addressing the real problems; out of wedlock births, drugs, high unemployment instead of dragging out this flag issue every time they want some attention.

A statue of James Meredith got vandalized? Whoop-de-doo...a statue of Ronald Reagan was vandalized in California last year.

36 posted on 02/21/2014 9:13:20 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: WKB

Stars and Bars...what an idiot writer


37 posted on 02/21/2014 9:21:27 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: WKB
Both Cross and Wyatt were jocks, never served in the military for state or country, that have been educated in the liberal indoctrination classes at Ole’ Miss and Mississippi State. The history textbooks at both schools are full of secondary and tertiary references that show no resemblance to the original event and reflect the extreme bias of the liberal professors with little attention to factual history. The two of them should stick to athletics and not venture into history of which neither of them are informed very well. Mississippi honors the 58K men that gave their lives to the state and the 50K+ men that came home mangled from the Civil War (the largest expenditure for the State in 1866-67 was for prosthetic limbs for the veterans). Nowhere else will honor the men that served the State, not slavery. There is a monument to black Confederates at Canton, 5% of the slaveholders in Mississippi were black, and several Confederate units from Mississippi had black men fighting alongside the whites as equals which PC history ignores. Tishomingo County, Mississippi, voted against succession but sent several regiments to fight for the state, not slavery. That flag, the CBF, was never adopted by the Confederate Government but by the troops in the field. It was never dishonored by the men that fought under it.

I had the honor of sitting with former Governor Kirk Fordyce explaining the origin and reasons for the flag and after the session he stated to me that he would stand behind it as long as he was Governor. He kept his word.

38 posted on 02/21/2014 9:22:50 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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It was 40% of blacks actually voted to keep old flag

Pissed off the left

But make no mistake....as boomers and Gen X die off in time and Gen Y and Z and younger and younger fill the void

They will vote the glad out...they won’t have the balls

It’ll be like Colonel Reb....

Course may not matter by then anyways if shooting war has begun


39 posted on 02/21/2014 9:25:45 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: WKB

Desecration?

Lol

Is Meredith a saint now?

He’s actually not a liberal but that is another story..


40 posted on 02/21/2014 9:29:00 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: wardaddy

And last I heard, no longer considers himself to be African American. He claims Indian blood now.


41 posted on 02/21/2014 9:30:04 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: WKB

Liberals trying to stir up their base once more. Ignore them.


42 posted on 02/21/2014 9:46:41 AM PST by Hurricane
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To: Malichi
From Kenneth Wayne Jones of District 21 - Attala, Holmes, Madison, Yazoo, Democrat, Mississippi State Senate's website:

And here's Kenneth Jones' Voting Records
43 posted on 02/21/2014 9:47:48 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Hurricane
Don't "Ignore them".
DESTROY THEM !!!!
44 posted on 02/21/2014 9:50:14 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: wardaddy
I'm just quoting articles.

That's WHY home schooling is so important.
Don't trust the public schooling system to educate your children.
That's the LAST thing they want to do.
45 posted on 02/21/2014 9:53:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: WKB

Change it to a watermelon/ fried chicken flag with a corn row border.


46 posted on 02/21/2014 9:58:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yosemitest

I know

I should have clarified


47 posted on 02/21/2014 10:20:02 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: Black Agnes

My father was friendly with Meredith...political influence stuff during a union strike as I recall

I doubt Meredith is all worked up over a prank

Shame Ole Miss so lib now..


48 posted on 02/21/2014 10:24:49 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: WKB

Must be time to stir up the Democrat voting base again.


49 posted on 02/21/2014 12:24:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: vetvetdoug
...5% of the slaveholders in Mississippi were black...

According to the 1860 census there were 30,943 slave holders in Mississippi in 1860 and only 773 free blacks of all ages. The math doesn't work.

50 posted on 02/21/2014 12:29:57 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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