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Study: Uninsured Patients Get Better Care Than Insured
CBS DC ^ | February 20, 2014 | Dr. M. Kit Delgado

Posted on 02/21/2014 7:18:21 AM PST by artichokegrower

WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – According to a recent study, severely injured patients are less likely to be transferred to a trauma center if they have health insurance.

(Excerpt) Read more at washington.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; healthinsurance; medicalservices; obamacare; traumacenters
Oh great not only am I paying for their health care they are getting better health care.
1 posted on 02/21/2014 7:18:21 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
I paying for their health care

For the record, I have been uninsured for 14 years, and you have not paid a nickel for my health care. Or my wife's or my son's.

2 posted on 02/21/2014 7:24:28 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: artichokegrower

I remember a guy I knew that had $10,000 deductible insurance (he was financially very well off) and one day hurt his knee playing tennis (he as 70 at the time). He went to a specialist and the receptionist said they needed a referral from a doctor (a typical insurance requirment). It took him several tries to explain to her that he was buying her bosses services out of pocket in the same way he would buy work on his car from a car dealership or mechanic.

The comical thing was how hard it was to get the receptionist to wrap her head around the simple fact that, at the end of the day, her boss is just a professional offering his services for a fee.

Oh, and it’s a lot cheaper for doctors to serve you when you are just paying them directly. No piles of paperwork.


3 posted on 02/21/2014 7:24:39 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Izzy Dunne

Have I paid for any of your oil changes? If I have, I’m really pissed! ;-)


4 posted on 02/21/2014 7:25:28 AM PST by cuban leaf
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6 posted on 02/21/2014 7:34:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: artichokegrower
They found that insured patients taken to non-trauma hospitals were 13 to 15 percent less likely to be transferred to trauma centers than uninsured ones.

Alternatively, insured patients are 13 to 15 percent more likely to be retained at the non-trauma hospital. Perhaps the disparity is better explained by considering the first hospital wants to keep their hands on patients with guaranteed payments.

7 posted on 02/21/2014 7:35:29 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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“Uninsured Patients Get Better Care Than Insured”

Well, in that case, obamacare is going to be a roaring success!


8 posted on 02/21/2014 7:37:29 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Izzy Dunne
For the record, I have been uninsured for 14 years, and you have not paid a nickel for my health care. Or my wife's or my son's.

God Bless you and your freedom of choice which I fully defend.

But, can you say the same about the vast majority of your fellow uninsured?

9 posted on 02/21/2014 7:49:52 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: cuban leaf

You have to bargain the fees too. for those of us not that well off we are stuck with Medicare and in our case Tricare Life as hubby is Retired SCPO 20 yrs and is over 65. Both are admined out of the same agencies.

TFL will only pay for 20 of the 30 pills I need to control inflammation and pain in my back riddled with OA/OP, it is only a NSAID that is a script form only. $18 for all 30.

They refused to pay for 20 antibiotic pills that work only in the colon. Those 20 pills cost $200. I had rejected it due to the side effects that would have landed me back in the hospital, I was just curious as to the cost of them.

His 2 day stay in the ER as there were no beds open at the small hospital, was $50K, Between the 2 they paid the provider $2,500 and sent us a drug co-pay bill. I’ve no idea what the Cardio go paid. Under 0’care reimbursement rates will drop 30% in 3 yrs. No wonder it took a couples of hrs calling Internist to find a new one closer to home when we moved out of crime infested Memphis with their high taxes and property/car ins.


10 posted on 02/21/2014 7:51:39 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

With my rates being what they are for catastrophic (self employed) and, by the grace of God, the good health of my wife and kids, I’ve paid more with insurance then without. Dumping insurance is something to consider.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 7:56:34 AM PST by albie
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To: artichokegrower

Well, you have to agree that in that situation - in a hospital for an ailment - when you aren’t confronted with “how in the hell am I gonna pay for this, or pay for the fricking deductible?” your health and mental state is much less conflicted.

Illegals and no-goods say “Medicaid” or whatever the new “Obamacare-I-don’t-have-to-pay-sh!t” phrase will be, and all their cares float away to “what kind of Oxy can I get for this here pain?”


12 posted on 02/21/2014 7:58:29 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: artichokegrower
Study: Uninsured Patients Get Better Care Than Insured

All is going according to plan.

13 posted on 02/21/2014 8:14:59 AM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: GailA

Wow! I am on TriCare standard and no problems at all. I mean, it has been amazing. Yes, I have some co-pays, but only $150 deductible in this day and age is great.And, no issues with any meds. My DH is retired military disabled, so he uses the VA. I hope it stays as good as it is, but am not counting on it.


14 posted on 02/21/2014 8:18:43 AM PST by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: GailA

You were billed 50 thousand for a two-day stay at the emergency room? Could that be a misprint?


15 posted on 02/21/2014 9:18:16 AM PST by kitkat
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To: albie
Dumping insurance is something to consider.

Yes, it was a considered option when I opened my own business. Basically, I've spent about $25k over that 14 years, my wife needed an operation that cost $17k, and wrist surgery that billed at $5k (for insurance purposes) but our cost was $3k.

Those bills are fully paid.
I could not have gotten insurance for that price.

My point is only that "uninsured" and "freeloader" are two DIFFERENT things.

16 posted on 02/21/2014 9:48:09 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I’ve been self employed for 11 years. Quick math = minimum $66,000 into insurance. Yikes! I know we haven’t come anywhere near that in medical bills. I would guess $30,000 tops.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 10:24:18 AM PST by albie
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To: artichokegrower

With the birth of a grandchild last month, I spent some time at the local maternity hospital.

It appears a lot of future Democrat voters are being born and we’re paying for a lot of them.


18 posted on 02/21/2014 10:27:46 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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