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How the GOP Sabotaged Marco Rubio, the Man Who Was Once Its Savior
New York Magazine ^ | 2/21/2014 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 02/21/2014 10:53:12 AM PST by nickcarraway

Edited on 02/21/2014 12:39:20 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

It was a mere two days after the 2012 election, and the shock of defeat had barely worn off when the Republican Party’s answer suddenly became clear, and it was Marco Rubio. The announcement came in a column, portentously titled “The Way Forward,” by Charles Krauthammer, the operative-pundit, Fox News panelist, and columnist whom a National Review cover story had deemed the leader of the opposition to President Obama. The party’s predicament could be solved, Krauthammer announced, with “a single policy change: border fence plus amnesty.” Then, having softened on immigration and thus endeared itself to Latinos, the party need only elevate the handsome, right-wing young senator to the top of its ticket. “Imagine Marco Rubio advancing such a policy on the road to 2016,” rhapsodized Krauthammer. “It would transform the landscape.”


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Let's see, it started with John Cornyn illegally trying to get Crist in office, so he could change parties.
1 posted on 02/21/2014 10:53:12 AM PST by nickcarraway
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its so obvious if you step back and look....any viable candidate who speaks well or has charisma is getting the hit treatment....why?...to make room for another candidate of their choice....

and conservatives and freepers fall for it every time....

2 posted on 02/21/2014 10:55:34 AM PST by cherry
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To: nickcarraway

Oh Please, The GOP is set to self-destruct. Rubio is just another vicccctim..


3 posted on 02/21/2014 10:55:38 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

Marco Rubio sabotaged Marco Rubio by choosing to die politically on the same illegal amnesty hill that Bush 43 chose to die politically on.

There must be some great cash in it for them.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 10:57:03 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: nickcarraway

It may have been at the behest of the scum party leaders but the speed with which Rubio completely abandond his claimed “core” principles to chase the political winds are what did him in. If it was indeed sabotage by the party leadership, it was only made possible by Rubio’s own failings.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 10:58:57 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: nickcarraway
ahh..media resurrection of GOP/e guy; who shot himself in the
foot many times, on "('rat-favored :) immigration reform"

6 posted on 02/21/2014 11:00:43 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: nickcarraway
Rubio mistakenly believed Krauhammer's assertion that backing 'immigration reform' (amnesty) would 'save' the GOP. Both were mistaken. The Republicans should propose securing the border first, with adequate funding, then worry about the rest of it - with no amnesty.

Most Americans are not overly concerned with 'immigration reform'. This is a Democrat issue intended to (a) bash Republicans and, (b) gain Democrat voters by proposing amnesty (with lots of loopholes) for those already here. Rubio is permanently tainted and will likely never regain his 'star' status because the party base - conservatives - no longer trust him, for good reason.

8 posted on 02/21/2014 11:03:23 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: nickcarraway
Nobody sabotaged Rubio.

From the beginning he promised illegals amnesty in Spanish language speeches to groups like La Raza, whilst simultaneously speaking about border security to English speaking audiences. His La Raza speeches were posted on YouTube and various posters put up links to them here.

Once in office, he showed it was La Raza he had been speaking truthfully to.

9 posted on 02/21/2014 11:03:58 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: nickcarraway

When Rubio came out for amnesty, it was all over


10 posted on 02/21/2014 11:04:16 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cherry

It wasn’t conservatives and Freepers who fell, it was Rubio.

We saw through his fall in an instant, and abandoned him just a quickly.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 11:04:29 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: nickcarraway

I wanted to like Rubio. He worried me a bit, because I didn’t see a lot of grit in his character. He didn’t look like a fighter.

And he began to strike me as a guy with positions rather than bedrock principles.

GOP keeps trying to sell amnesty and they do not want to repeal Obamacare. Every politician they send out to sell it winds up limping home after getting his hat handed to him because the people don’t want it. Rubio took the bait and now reaps the reward. Jeb Bush is in the same boat. Once the favorite, now exposed as another amnesty shill.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 11:04:35 AM PST by marron
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To: cherry

Rubio alone is to blame for his fall from grace. He’s no conservative.


13 posted on 02/21/2014 11:07:51 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway

Rubio tried to persuade us that suicide was the way forward. Being rational individuals and not love-sick fans, we said to ourselves, maybe Rubio’s not the guy we thought he was. If Chait thinks this was sabotage, he’s a major league dim bulb who’s blinded by his prejudices. In his heart of hearts, he’s got to know that amnesty will lead to short- and long-run political debacles at the ballot box for the GOP - immediately from disgruntled conservatives, and later on from amnestied immigrants who want a bigger welfare state.


14 posted on 02/21/2014 11:16:18 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: F15Eagle
Marco Rubio sabotaged Marco Rubio by choosing to die politically on the same illegal amnesty hill that Bush 43 chose to die politically on.

The standard way to fleece a rube is to offer him an easy way to get what he wants anyway. Rubio wanted to be a presidential contender. They whispered into his naive ear that amnesty was the way. His ego and his cultural sympathies did the rest.

15 posted on 02/21/2014 11:20:01 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: nickcarraway

Chait is a moron. Rubio hurt himself acting as Chucky Schmucky’s Mini-Me.


16 posted on 02/21/2014 11:24:25 AM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: nickcarraway

Rubio fell from grace when he finally stated his true position supporting amnesty.
NO real conservative would go for that.
I voted for his sorry ass for Senate, I will not be fooled again.
Regardless of how much smoke anyone tries to blow up my ass.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 11:24:38 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: F15Eagle

At the time that Bush (W) put forth his resolution to solve the illegals who came over the border, it sounded good to me. The plan called for the illegals to have to be in the country for at least six years, and even then get behind those who had applied legally for admission which would take seven years.

That meant that it would take 13 years for anyone illegally crossing the border before they could become citizens.

The simple truth of Bush’s plan was that the only other option was to put all the illegals who had crossed our border on busses and send them back to Mexico. Could you imagine what the left media would have done with columns and pictures if he deported the illegals? Pictures of due-to-deliver moms to be, of elderly and infirm, of small children looking scared stupid, and every other tragic person or peoples being crammed into overflowing busses.

There are also not enough busses to do the above.

In addition, Bush said that the law would call for anyone committing a serious crime not to be allowed to stay, but would be deported immediately.


18 posted on 02/21/2014 11:32:39 AM PST by kitkat
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To: nickcarraway

Rubio committed suicide with his immigration nonsense. Dead to me.


19 posted on 02/21/2014 11:33:29 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: GeronL

That would be at the beginning of his campaign.
He came out for amnesty from day one.
In his spanish language speeches.


20 posted on 02/21/2014 11:33:49 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: kitkat

He supported the illegal invasion of the USA.

And over American workers, I might add.

As it was, we still wound up with Obama.

You start with the raids on those hiring and enabling them.

And that did happen to some degree from those years forward.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 11:34:57 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: nickcarraway

Ted Cruz tried to warn him.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 11:35:33 AM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
It wasn’t conservatives and Freepers who fell, it was Rubio.

Absolutely it was conservatives and freepers who fell.

Because Rubio outlined his amnesty plans in spanish language speeches which were posted on YouTube.

They were linked to here. Yet many decided to ignore that and voted for him anyway..

After he did as he told his Spanish audiences he would, these Freepers acted outraged.

That takes a special kind of stupid.

23 posted on 02/21/2014 11:37:44 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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24 posted on 02/21/2014 11:38:27 AM PST by RedMDer
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To: Jim Scott

“Rubio mistakenly believed Krauhammer’s assertion that backing ‘immigration reform’ (amnesty) would ‘save’ the GOP. Both were mistaken. The Republicans should propose securing the border first, with adequate funding, then worry about the rest of it - with no amnesty.”

I am for amnesty. Under conditions. One, the border is closed and that doesn’t mean a cute fence. Two, all illegals currently in the US who have a criminal record are deported wth families. Three, all illegals MUST have a sponsor, either an employer or clergy. And finally, illegals receiving citizenship are forbidden to vote for a period of 10 years.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 11:39:34 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: nickcarraway

The GOP did not sabotage Rubio.

Egged on by folks like Krauthamer, and one of Rubios lieutenants who happened to work for Soros before, Rubio sabotaged himself.

He got to where he was using the Conservative base, and then he decided to throw them under the bus. They hollered, and now Rubio, Krauthamer and the New York Magazine and others want to blame everyone but Rubio for his own problem.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 11:39:52 AM PST by Wuli
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To: nickcarraway

Rubio sabotaged Rubio.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 11:40:00 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: cherry

Hey Cherry baby nobody is “falling” for anything but you. When Marco the “Rube” got in bed with Chucky Schumer he made his own whore’s bed. He is a phony and deserves the treatment he got.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 11:41:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Wuli

For a Republican, going into the Senate is sabotage. All Republican Senators are terrible.


29 posted on 02/21/2014 11:41:53 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Three, all illegals MUST have a sponsor, either an employer or clergy. And finally, illegals receiving citizenship are forbidden to vote for a period of 10 years.

Seems like you are mimicking the DU position on shAmnesty.

30 posted on 02/21/2014 11:44:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Rubio made a Rookie mistake and was played. The establishment knows that the people have figured out that when the words “comprehensive” or “bi-partisan” are used to describe a bill, this mean big trouble. The elites used Rubio as cover to do the same ol same ol.


31 posted on 02/21/2014 11:44:39 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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Rubio could have come out of the immigration thing as a hero to conservatives and been set up for 2016 ....if he had went into those negotiations, worked a couple of weeks on the bill...then announced “the bill being drafted in the senate puts illegal immigrants ahead of American citizens and I can not be involved in drafting a bill that does that “ ....

1.) It would have killed the bill ...no way they would have gotten to 60 without Rubio (at the time this was all happening he was the face of the bill)

2.) conservatives would have loved for someone to poke a stick in the eye of McCain and Graham ...which he would have done by blowing up that bill and the gang of 8

3.) separated himself from the Bushes and the rest of the Rove like amnesty whores...

but, he actually believes that amnesty BS ..so he’s dead to me anyway ....

stupid politician ...stupid party


32 posted on 02/21/2014 11:52:19 AM PST by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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To: nickcarraway

(Over the next few months, conservatives shook off Rubio’s charm offensive and whipped themselves into a familiar frenzy against his immigration-reform plan.)

In other words, they read the bill and the details did not inspire confidence.


33 posted on 02/21/2014 11:58:31 AM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

imagine that


34 posted on 02/21/2014 12:02:16 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: nickcarraway

35 posted on 02/21/2014 12:06:36 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: F15Eagle

Yup. Nothing more. Nothing less.


36 posted on 02/21/2014 12:08:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: F15Eagle
"Marco Rubio sabotaged Marco Rubio by choosing to die politically on the same illegal amnesty hill that Bush 43 chose to die politically on."

"There must be some great cash in it for them."

Yep.

After the Republicans cut their own political throats, and relegate the Party to Whig status, forever when they pass amnesty, They will all get phoney baloney jobs at their crony crapitalist donor´s businesses that want the illegals legalized for their low cost labor pools and their retail customer base.

They will be paid double or triple what they get at the taxpayer filled trough at their current phoney baloney political gig, without having to campaign every two or six years.

37 posted on 02/21/2014 12:12:45 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: nickcarraway

Immigration reform is not needed. Enforce existing laws.


38 posted on 02/21/2014 12:18:31 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: nickcarraway

Rubio pulled off a great scam. He toppled a GOPe fav and then parroted him after getting elected.


39 posted on 02/21/2014 12:25:25 PM PST by RginTN
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To: kitkat
The simple truth of Bush’s plan was that the only other option was to put all the illegals who had crossed our border on busses and send them back to Mexico.

This is nonsense on stilts. That's like solving the theft problem by making theft legal. The status quo is fine. All that needs to be done is a slow ratcheting up of enforcement, including raids on companies and the deputization of local law enforcement for placing illegals in custody, with a cash bounty for every illegal transferred to the Border Patrol.

40 posted on 02/21/2014 12:26:45 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: central_va

“Seems like you are mimicking the DU position on shAmnesty.”

Nope, I only care about the border. Once the fence is in place and Republican is in office, pull a rat and renege on the promise and deport all of them.


41 posted on 02/21/2014 12:36:47 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Zhang Fei

Plus it would be best to correctly spell the plural form of ‘bus.’ There’s just one ess. Two esses means more than one kiss.


42 posted on 02/21/2014 12:37:59 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: Paine in the Neck
The standard way to fleece a rube is to offer him an easy way to get what he wants anyway. Rubio wanted to be a presidential contender. They whispered into his naive ear that amnesty was the way. His ego and his cultural sympathies did the rest.

McCain thinking: "#$%!^ Latino! Should be mowing my lawn! I used to be Chuck's Number One!"


43 posted on 02/21/2014 12:55:03 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Whoops! Missed a character there...
The standard way to fleece a rube is to offer him an easy way to get what he wants anyway. Rubio wanted to be a presidential contender. They whispered into his naive ear that amnesty was the way. His ego and his cultural sympathies did the rest.

Schmuckie: "That's my boy!"

McCain thinking: "#$%!^ Latino! Should be mowing my lawn! I used to be Chuck's Number One!"


44 posted on 02/21/2014 12:56:36 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Fledermaus
Chait is a moron.

I'll second that.

45 posted on 02/21/2014 1:43:37 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: kitkat
"the only other option was to put all the illegals who had crossed our border on busses and send them back to Mexico."

That was the only other option? I don't think so. Why tell that story?

1. Have employers to use E-verify or other data base (soc. sec.) to determine whether employees are legal.

2. Levy huge fines on businesses that either refuse to determine legal status or who knowingly hire illegals.

3. Deny benefits to illegals. No Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), no welfare, no food stamps, no WIC, no unemployment benefits, no social security.

4. Interpret the 14th Amendment as written. i.e. - no anchor babies.

5. Once caught here illegally, you can never return to the US legally.

No jobs, no freebies, and no chance use their children. They will leave on their own. That is what George Bush could have done. Oh and by the way, it was done once before by Eisenhower and it worked then.

46 posted on 02/21/2014 1:53:12 PM PST by Waryone
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To: nickcarraway

Another liberal Nancy boy trying to stir things up.


47 posted on 02/21/2014 2:40:20 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: kitkat
that the only other option was to put all the illegals who had crossed our border on busses and send them back to Mexico.

Straw man arguments don't do well on FR. They will self deport if we stop letting them have more rights than a citizen.

48 posted on 02/21/2014 2:59:31 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
illegals receiving citizenship are forbidden to vote for a period of 10 years.

It is illegal to ask if one is a citizen in California elections, even if they can't speak one word of English.

49 posted on 02/21/2014 3:02:26 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: F15Eagle
Marco Rubio sabotaged Marco Rubio by choosing to die politically on the same illegal amnesty hill that Bush 43 chose to die politically on.

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Let's not forget Jeb Bush, or Bush 41. This may be an issue:

Jeb Bush was born in Midland, Texas. When he was six years old, the family relocated to Houston, Texas.

The origin of the name Jeb is his initials; Jeb is merely a direct pronunciation of J.E.B. (John Ellis Bush).[6]

Jeb initially attended Grady Elementary School in Houston.[7] Following in the footsteps of older brother, George, Jeb Bush attended high school at the private Massachusetts boarding school, Phillips Academy Andover. At the age of 17, he taught English as a second language in León, Guanajuato, Mexico, as part of Phillips Academy's student exchange program. While in Mexico, he met his future wife, Columba Garnica Gallo. In 1973, Bush graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Texas at Austin with a BA in Latin American Studies. He completed his coursework in two and a half years.[citation needed]

Source: Wikipedia

50 posted on 02/21/2014 3:06:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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