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2 Plead Guilty in Beating of Giants Fan Outside Dodger Stadium
NY Times ^ | Feb 20, 2014 | Ian Lovett

Posted on 02/21/2014 3:42:28 PM PST by Bon of Babble

LOS ANGELES — Two men pleaded guilty on Thursday in the 2011 beating of Bryan Stow, a San Francisco Giants fan who was attacked outside Dodger Stadium and left with permanent brain injuries.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
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In Los Angeles Superior Court on Thursday, Louie Sanchez, 31, pleaded guilty to mayhem and was sentenced to eight years in state prison; Marvin Norwood, 33, was sentenced to four years for assault.

Family dealt a life sentence in this heart breaking case and said on the local radio that Bryan has backtracked due to his insurance issuers denying intensive care for him.

Unbelievable that this was not a case of attempted murder and that the assailants got 8 and 4 years which means they'll be out in (what?) 2-3? This is California after all where hardened criminals are being released back onto the streets b/c of prison overcrowding.

May Bryan and his family find peace somewhere after this horrible crime against him.


1 posted on 02/21/2014 3:42:28 PM PST by Bon of Babble
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To: Bon of Babble

Agree with judge saying these guys are the nightmare we all fear when attending sports events. Not sure if these guys are gang members but would not be surprised.

It’s a damn shame that we all have to fear the feral people such as these. But they are out there, attending public events.

Police increase their presence markedly in San Diego at Chargers games vs. The Raiders. For some reason, the youth gangs have adopted the RAIDERS AS their team, and cause lots of trouble at their games.


2 posted on 02/21/2014 3:49:21 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (TH)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The head thug got eight years for “mayhem”? What about attempted murder?

Yet the victim’s family approved of this light sentence.


3 posted on 02/21/2014 3:53:09 PM PST by Joann37
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To: Bon of Babble
the perps have the look of gang members with those neck tattoos


4 posted on 02/21/2014 3:53:58 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: Bon of Babble

“pleaded”

Slightly off topic, but whatever happened to “pled”?

Hey at least it’s at Dictionary.Com

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pled

Was it so bad that it had to be erased?

(to, too, two, lose, loose, losing, ‘loosing’ - egads).


5 posted on 02/21/2014 3:54:13 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: MeshugeMikey

but they look just like a “normal”, “respectable” adorable loving couple....

*cough*


6 posted on 02/21/2014 3:54:49 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Bon of Babble
I believe we should have a torture penalty in which 3X the offense is performed on the perp. Family and friends should be allowed the option of being that torturer, but could also choose to not allow any torture to take place.

The 3X punishment is Biblical.

I guarantee you that this would curb senseless aggression, just as CCW curbs crime everywhere it's instituted.

7 posted on 02/21/2014 3:56:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: GeronL

perhaps they were snubbed....i.e. “disrespected” cough cough....by their victim


8 posted on 02/21/2014 3:56:33 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Did their mommas show up in court, saying that these boys were turning their lives around?


9 posted on 02/21/2014 3:57:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (TH)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Very possible he didn’t do the foot tap properly in the bathroom stall


10 posted on 02/21/2014 3:58:09 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Joann37
There are Federal charges to come.

Could get each of them ten years.

11 posted on 02/21/2014 3:58:33 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Louie Sanchez, 31,


Let me guess media..white Hispanic??
This Bryan Stow’s life will never be the same again..these two thugs beat him within an inch of his life, give them both life in prison, but since this is California, they probably won’t even serve half their sentence


12 posted on 02/21/2014 4:01:33 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: GeronL

thats the sense I got...from their...appearance.

do they expect to be allowed to bunk together in stoney lonesome?


13 posted on 02/21/2014 4:02:39 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

another pair of Fatherless Chillen!


14 posted on 02/21/2014 4:03:22 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: F15Eagle
Slightly off topic, but whatever happened to “pled”?

"Pleaded" is not uncommon, particularly in a legal context.

15 posted on 02/21/2014 4:04:18 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: MeshugeMikey
the perps have the look of gang members with those neck tattoos.

These guys will be delivering prison justice to all those other inmates sentenced for heinous crimes.

16 posted on 02/21/2014 4:04:24 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: F15Eagle
Slightly off topic, but whatever happened to “pled”?

Don't worry; at least one of your fellow English-speakers says "pled."

17 posted on 02/21/2014 4:05:40 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: FoxInSocks; F15Eagle

AT least it wasn’t PLAID


18 posted on 02/21/2014 4:07:53 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
They were smirking away in court...which didn't sit too well with the judge.

The family referred to them as "cretins." What I think of them cannot be expressed here or the mods would ban me!!

I haven't set foot in Dodger Stadium since that time.

I listened to a lot local radio in the LA Area and heard fan after fan after fan report that they'd NEVER go to Dodger Stadium again because the thugs have taken over the place -- throwing beer and soda at people, yelling loud curses all over the place, rude, uncivil behavior.

Sort of like the high school I teach in!!

The Dodgers DID get rid of $2 night which brought out the animals.

Still, it will take a LOT for me to ever go back there -- and I've been going there since I was a small child.

There was no security in parking lot No. 2 and it took security 15 to 20 minutes to get there

19 posted on 02/21/2014 4:08:30 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Joann37
Eight years is too little. This is worse than murder.

He will be out of prison in 3 or 4 years.

20 posted on 02/21/2014 4:10:18 PM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: FoxInSocks

Yeah, that’s how I always see it.

I could see ‘he pleaded with him for justice’ or something like that. Just seemed more natural to me.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 4:14:52 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: MeshugeMikey

scum


22 posted on 02/21/2014 4:18:33 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: oldbrowser

I think one has or is close to being released because of time served. The other one will more than likely serve only four years because of time already served.

The smirking is what gets me. I don’t think they believe they did anything wrong.


23 posted on 02/21/2014 4:24:36 PM PST by liege (America 180)
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To: F15Eagle

Glad that you’re upholding the English language F15Eagle.

I work in a high school and I never let “your” pass for “you’re” or allow students to mix up there, their and they’re or to, too and two, its and it’s or use “alot” instead of the correctly written “a lot” (the one I despise the most).

But, sadly, I am old school and even adults I work with (who should know better and set a better example) mix up your/you’re, to/too/two, their, there and they’re, etc. I am really irritated by the misuse of “it’s and its” — which is so simple to figure out. If a high school kid uses “it’s” instead of “its” in a written paper, I have him read it out loud using “it is” — because, I tell him, that’s what he wrote. Helps a bit, but there are a lot of adults who don’t get it.

My family is mortified when I take out my indelible ink pen or white out and correct signs, i.e. like this one: “Have kid’s put jacket’s here.” Corrected a menu the other day.

Sigh. If we don’t hold up the proper standards of the English language, who will?


24 posted on 02/21/2014 4:25:03 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Bon of Babble

Well, I can see typos, or the momentary lapse. The bad part is some of it becomes like Ebonics and gets spread around.

There was, at one time, a complete problem with loose and lose here. We may hate the DNC form of liberalism, but we can try to be articulate in most cases.

I will slip sometimes when in a hurry and not type things out -— and then after you post —— ouch.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 4:29:23 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Bon of Babble

Yeah, I finally learned that “it’s” is the acceptable contraction of “it is”. It’s (hehe) easy to wrongly assume “it’s” is a possessive form of “it”.

Technically, I think that period is supposed to be inside those quotes but I must admit that always seemed to look weird to me.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 4:31:42 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Bon of Babble
If a high school kid uses “it’s” instead of “its” in a written paper, I have him read it out loud using “it is” — because, I tell him, that’s what he wrote. Helps a bit, but there are a lot of adults who don’t get it.

That would be especially true of Freepers, almost all of whom get it wrong. See my tagline.

27 posted on 02/21/2014 4:36:25 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: F15Eagle

Re your post 26, I do not understand how anyone could get “loose” confused with “lose.” They are not pronounced the same. Nevertheless, most Freeepers continue to use “loose” in the place of “lose.”

These are spelling errors that should have been corrected in the fifth grade.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 4:39:47 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Bon of Babble

I think using “alright” instead of the proper “all right” is REALLY bad use of the English language. Right up there with the interchanging of “affect” and “effect”.


29 posted on 02/21/2014 4:50:15 PM PST by getarope (Jesus is coming soon, and boy is he PISSED!)
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To: Bon of Babble

Very sad, but true: Anyone who goes to Dodger Stadium wearing a Giants shirt does so at his/her own peril. Drunk, stupid fans do not believe in freedom of expression.


30 posted on 02/21/2014 4:54:00 PM PST by getarope (Jesus is coming soon, and boy is he PISSED!)
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To: All
It just wasn't enough to beat him senseless. They mutilated him and literally left him deaf, dumb and blind.



Just remember if these two ever get out of prison alive Holder fully supports their right to vote.

The complaint specified that he cut and disabled Stow's tongue, put out an eye and slit his nose, ear and lip in addition to other injuries that left him brain damaged.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018089/Bryan-Stow-attack-Gruesome-new-allegations.html
31 posted on 02/21/2014 5:02:02 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Bon of Babble

? $2 night ?

that would bring only the best out...YES indeed.

May God Bless you and keep you safe in and to and from the school that you’re teaching in.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 5:53:16 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I sense that will be their new hobby


33 posted on 02/21/2014 5:54:32 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: OldPossum

Bravo to all the grammarians on this thread. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be cowed into holding our tongues, but it is important to uphold standards of proper English usage. By the way, “pled” and “pleaded” are both accepted forms for the past tense of “plead.” And, yes, the period goes inside the quotation mark.


34 posted on 02/21/2014 6:14:08 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: MeshugeMikey

Thanks. I thought I’d never leave Southern California but now I’m not so sure.

I have family in the Bay Area and it’s getting crazy up there too.

Stay safe, friend, this state has gone insane...


35 posted on 02/21/2014 6:37:23 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: liege

I’d guess prison is home-away-from-home for these thugs.


36 posted on 02/21/2014 6:37:34 PM PST by 867V309 (Obammy = LIAR)
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To: Lisbon1940

Thank you.

I’ve always thought that the best way to learn spelling and grammar is to read published authors and pay attention to the way they write the English language.


37 posted on 02/21/2014 6:38:51 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Lisbon1940

Periods inside quotation marks irritate me. It’s this .” not this “. And, it’s not a small mistake, IMO.

Tea party infiltrators LOVED to make up signs with all kinds of misspellings, grammatical errors and other obvious mistakes so the media could say, “Look! They’re nothing but a bunch of uneducated hillbillies!”

That’s why it’s important to be as correct as possible, we conservatives are already labeled by the media as uneducated idiots of low intelligence.


38 posted on 02/21/2014 6:51:14 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: OldPossum

I agree - I don’t get it either.

I’ve seen it over 100 times here on FR, I’m sure, over the years.


39 posted on 02/21/2014 7:01:48 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Bon of Babble

Periods inside of quotes is almost always correct.


40 posted on 02/21/2014 7:12:00 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Bon of Babble

What gets me is “could of,” etc., when people think they’re expanding the contraction “could’ve.”


41 posted on 02/21/2014 7:24:44 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: informavoracious

“Periods inside of quotes is almost always correct.”

American English usually puts the punctuation inside the quotes, British English usually puts them outside. Really confused me when I first lived in England years ago.


42 posted on 02/21/2014 7:26:17 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite

I am ashamed to say that when I was young and could not remember, I put the period directly beneath the ending quotation mark in handwritten papers. I don’t think it fooled my teacher one bit.


43 posted on 02/21/2014 7:35:17 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: F15Eagle

“Pled” is not a word.


44 posted on 02/21/2014 8:01:09 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

Not in FR spell checker.

But at that link, it is.

But I remember it used to be used all the time. Guess it’s a thing of colloquial speech.


45 posted on 02/21/2014 8:05:45 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
http://grammarist.com/usage/pleaded-pled/

And

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=pleaded%2Cpled&year_start=1900&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cpleaded%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cpled%3B%2Cc0

But an incorrect word eventually becomes respectable after enough ignorant people use it.

Makes me wonder what's the use of studying correct English.

Simply substitute “incorrect English” for “Treason” in the following: “Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”

46 posted on 02/21/2014 8:13:14 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

It definitely was around for a long time, that’s for certain.


47 posted on 02/21/2014 8:26:44 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Bon of Babble

To be fair the bay area is a a pretty wide chunk of real estate but yes by and large many areas in the bay area Cities... are getting out of hand.

the pendulum will swing back at some point, thats a given. What we dont know is how far this societal pendulum has to go to complete its less desirable part of the cycle.


48 posted on 02/22/2014 6:48:06 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Where are The Weapons Of Mass Global Climate Change Destruction?)
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To: GeronL

Why are you such a jerk? Foot taps in stalls. You should be ashamed of yourself, if you have any shame.


49 posted on 02/22/2014 6:51:49 AM PST by GSWarrior
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